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Worst president since Carter

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bedspirit, Sep 4, 2012.

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    bedspirit

    bedspirit Active Member

    Somewhere on here a dude posted that Obama was the worst president since Carter. Anyone else find that statement to be ridiculous? Maybe I need to brush up on my Carter history, but I don't think he left much of a footprint on the country. He deregulated beer so that we could all brew our own, but other than that, are we still paying for the fuck up that Carter left us?

    Now, I'm not arguing the guy was great. His presidency was plaqued with a crap economy, of course it was shitty when he got in there, and then shitty things happen while he was there, and I'm not sure his policies helped much. The comparison to Obama is not what I object to, the qualifier "worst". The implication being that the presidents who followed were better than Carter.

    The guys who followed left us problems we still have today.

    Reagan had a huge impact, the worst of which, at least to me, is cutting the fuck out of taxes and increasing spending. That deficit is still with us today.

    Bush Sr...I don't know, having kids, I guess.

    Clinton passed NAFTA and repealed Glass Steagall.

    Bush ushered in a new era of authoritarianism.

    Those things are still with us today and probably aren't going away. Given their impact, I'd much prefer Carter. The economy turned around shortly after he left office and we're not dealing with any horseshit he left behind.
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    Canna Sylvan

    Canna Sylvan Well-Known Member

    Carter banned breeder reactors and restricted current ones from upgrades. That means reactors will eventually stop functioning and we're stuck with nuclear waste for hundreds of thousands of years rather than just hundreds of years. Carter 2016!
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

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    FlyLikeAnEagle

    FlyLikeAnEagle Well-Known Member

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    Harrekin

    Harrekin Well-Known Member

    1.4 trillion reduced to 1.3 trillion...over 10 years that's a WHOLE trillion and it buys an extra year out of 10.

    Hes a Jedi-jesus-wizard! All Hail the Giant Eared Messiah!
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    deprave

    deprave New Member

    I have to agree for the most part, carter was probably the best president we have had in the last 50 years imo, the irony that this is the the republican talking heads "talking point" onlt reason ann coulter and fellow clowns use this is because a very simple connection. Carter was in for 4 years and then Reagan replace him, Reagan was beloved among republicans especially at first so thats the whole guise they want you just to imagine Obama after 4 years being replaced by a 'hero'..another brilliant strat by carl rove.
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    FlyLikeAnEagle

    FlyLikeAnEagle Well-Known Member


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    ink the world

    ink the world Well-Known Member

    While your graph really should end the argument it won't. Fact, logic and reason have no meaning to the far right.

    It won't be long until Clayton Bigsby or one of his like will be here screaming about birth certificates, socialism, Kenya or some other nonsense.
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    Herb & Suds

    Herb & Suds Active Member

    Well before they do

    Let me just thank each and every one of you on this page for keeping it real

    Peace
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    kelly4

    kelly4 Well-Known Member

    Thanks again, Reagan.
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    BA142

    BA142 Well-Known Member

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    NoDrama

    NoDrama Well-Known Member

    How many people here were even alive when Carter was President? Doesn't anyone remember the Iran Hostage situation? That had a lot to do with Carter also, not just 3 mile long gas lines.

    I think most of you are too young to remember what it was like under Carter.
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    rollitup

    rollitup Forum Admin Staff Member

    The gas lines happened when Nixon and Ford were in office, not Carter. Yeah, I remember Ike, too, but I was too young to pay attention. Kennedy was an excellent Prez, and then we suffered through Johnson and Nixon. Both of them fucked up a lot of stuff. When Ford took over, he wasn't much better, and mostly continued Nixon's bullshit. Then Carter was the smartest of our Presidents, so he tried to do intelligent stuff, but most of it was shot down by redneck Republicans. Then came Reagan, who was an idiot puppet, and the Republicans were taken over by the religious right, and that was followed by two idiot Bushes, and because of that our society is fucked.

    The Republicans are the cause of our problems, and if you don't see that, you are not paying attention.

    :mrgreen:
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    NoDrama

    NoDrama Well-Known Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_energy_crisis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXgqPzDL4UE

    http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/video-vault-gas-lines-and-gas-shortages

    http://www.dailynews.com/centennial/ci_18260328

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,920445,00.html

    http://www.wafb.com/global/story.asp?s=11475467

    There WERE some gas lines because of price controls Nixon implemented, but they were short lived and a minor nuisance compared to 1979 and alternate gas days according to license plate # under Carter and his unwillingness to deal with Iran.

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    bedspirit

    bedspirit Active Member

    I don't want to spend a bunch of time defending Carter's presidency. This thread is not really about how awesome Carter was, it's about what makes a president bad. Sure, their performance in office is a big factor, but to me, it's also the policies that they leave the generations that follow. In Carter's case, his time in office was marred with a shitty economy but the policies didn't leave any big impact on the country. That's a plus for me. I wish every shitty president could isolate their influence the years they're in office rather than have their shittiness linger on for decades.
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    canndo

    canndo Well-Known Member

    It will be ignored, as will graphs showing fewer Fed employees (smaller government) under Obama.
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    canndo

    canndo Well-Known Member


    Let me see if I have this right now.


    Carter's daring raid to collect the U.S. hostages failed and it was his fault.

    But we have only the U.S. military to thank for killing OBL, Obama had nothing to do with that.
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    rollitup

    rollitup Forum Admin Staff Member


    Right! The gas shortage and lines of cars waiting to buy gas was much worse in 1973, 1974, and 1975 than in 1979. Just more drama from nodrama.

    :mrgreen:
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    ink the world

    ink the world Well-Known Member

    Yep, you got that dead on; that's their "logic."
    You know damn well if that SEAL op went south and Americans died, they'd then be blaming Obama.

    They are so full of hate for him he can't do anything right in their eyes. Dude could fire a million gallons of crude out of his ass and the far right would bitch that it wasn't refined.

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