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Moebius

Moebius

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CaliMackdaddy said:
Awesome find, whats the lowest tier they sell, how much? Which model do you think would do well in my 20gal res? Got a website that sells them, id love a link.. its exactly what i needa get atm.. those water pumps generate soooo much heat i hate running them.
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They are great. Also, unlike pumps, there is no problem if they run dry. I think the 800-1600L or the 2700L would be perfect for you.

Mine is the 'Newave 1.6' and it creates a very gentle current (almost unnoticeable) in an 84L (20Gallon) tank.

They are really cheap, I'm not sure of U.S prices. They are sold in Aquarium shops too for creating a current for fishtanks. Other models are available but this one works perfect and Ive read it has lower than average power useage.

edit: A US store that sells 'circulation pumps' ..... (Ive heard of the Fluval brand)
http://www.thatpetplace.com/aquarium-supplies/aquarium-circulation-pumps#!aquarium-circulation-pumps
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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Moebius said:
Hello WoH

I just want to recommend a small piece of equipment. Its a water circulator. I use it in my nutrient tank and it circulates a current in my tank 24/7. I think its great because it makes NO NOISE or HEAT and has low power consumption (10w max). It means that I have no salt build-ups or surface slick what-so-ever and can mix up large amounts of solution in one go without worrying it may spoil, this has saved me lots of time ... The solution literally looks like you have just mixed it.

Some may say, 'I just use a stick and stir', I tried that but once a slick or salt buildup occurs its almost impossible to stir it all back together like it was.



Newave - Circulation Pump
  • Why didnt they make these earlier??
  • Circulates your nutrient solution at very high volumes
  • No more sediment left floating on top of solution
  • No more sediment rings left around the tank
​Available in 3 sizes:
  • Adjustable 800-1600L/hr
  • 2700L/hr
  • 3900L/hr

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The model I use is the smallest for my 84L bin. Its power consumption is 2.6w.
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Great idea Moe. At the end of my rez days, I threw out all the air stones and put in a couple of small submersible fountain pumps, and they seemed to me to work better than the air stones. I later ran across a group of Reverse RDWC heads on another site and they all had thrown out their air stones in favor of using recirculating pumps in the rez, they had dissolved O2 meters and said the O2 levels were higher using pumps instead of airstones.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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WattSaver said:
Great idea Moe. At the end of my rez days, I threw out all the air stones and put in a couple of small submersible fountain pumps, and they seemed to me to work better than the air stones. I later ran across a group of Reverse RDWC heads on another site and they all had thrown out their air stones in favor of using recirculating pumps in the rez, they had dissolved O2 meters and said the O2 levels were higher using pumps instead of airstones.
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I don't know if they would help oxygenate the nutrient solution. I just use mine to keep it constantly moving. This is what I might use to oxygenate the nute tank. All in one pump and airstone with just a single cable.


Hydor Ario Submersible Air Pump



Simplest way to oxygenate nutrient solutions
No air stones required
No tubing required
Available in 2 sizes: Ario 1 is ideal for DWC bucket systems 10-50 Litres
Ario 4 is ideal for Nutrient tanks 150-300 Litres

EDIT:
They have one of these running at my local Hydro shop. They have it in a clear bucket and its incredible the amount of bubbles it throws out.
 
Txchilies

Txchilies

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thecoolman said:
I have heard it mentioned that the magnets in pumps suck iron out of the nutes. Probably b.s but has anyone heard of this.
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I think it would be possible to do if you run tap water and your supplier ran some pretty high chlorine levels. The high Chlorine would precipatate the iron and other metals out, so it could be true. I use free chlorine to precipatate iron and manganese out of water before filtering and sending it out to customers to drink.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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thecoolman said:
I have heard it mentioned that the magnets in pumps suck iron out of the nutes. Probably b.s but has anyone heard of this.
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All pumps or metal in submerged in solutions of high disolved solids will attract some deposits of salts on them. .. Domestic pipes often need unblocking of such deposits. .... Maybe Iron would be amngst the deposits found in 'scale'.

A new pump that is smooth will not attract many deposits but as the pump is used for months the salts begin to stick. If not cleaned regular the salts or scale will build up quicker.

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After a quick think about it; I don't believe its an issue. for these reasons.

1. The amount of iron it could attract would be miniscule when compared to 1ml of solution.
2. All Cannabis plants will use Iron at different levels, A few microns either way will NOT make any difference.
3. Old wells or pipes in the water system will leech extra Iron into the water anyhow.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Today I rebuild the cloner ... AGAIN.

The design is good but the hot glue has just not been so ...... hot ............. or gluey. LOL

Thankfully, I was told about 'Marine Goop' (Thanks Jela) so i'll give it a try. :p

 
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gagekko

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Moebius said:
I don't know if they would help oxygenate the nutrient solution. I just use mine to keep it constantly moving. This is what I might use to oxygenate the nute tank. All in one pump and airstone with just a single cable.


Hydor Ario Submersible Air Pump



Simplest way to oxygenate nutrient solutions
No air stones required
No tubing required
Available in 2 sizes: Ario 1 is ideal for DWC bucket systems 10-50 Litres
Ario 4 is ideal for Nutrient tanks 150-300 Litres

EDIT:
They have one of these running at my local Hydro shop. They have it in a clear bucket and its incredible the amount of bubbles it throws out.
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Not worried about the heat build up this might make?
 
Fazer1rlg

Fazer1rlg

Active Member
I tried using perlite/verm in my smart pots at 65/35 ratio and I had nothing but lockouts. My ph would always raise and my plants were completely stunted. I don't understand why either. My ph was between 5.8 And 6.4 but I would always catch it raising into 6.8 and I would have to flush. It was a pain in the ass. I just took those plants out and they went back to dwc. The perlite verm mix only caused me problems. Not as easy as everyone is saying.



any ideas to what happened from all you hempy growers.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Fazer1rlg said:
I tried using perlite/verm in my smart pots at 65/35 ratio and I had nothing but lockouts. My ph would always raise and my plants were completely stunted. I don't understand why either. My ph was between 5.8 And 6.4 but I would always catch it raising into 6.8 and I would have to flush. It was a pain in the ass. I just took those plants out and they went back to dwc. The perlite verm mix only caused me problems. Not as easy as everyone is saying.



any ideas to what happened from all you hempy growers.
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Completely stunted plants ?????? .... a wild guess but here goes; ..... they never hit the res. ... it really difficult to tell now

Its been a long time since you've posted Fazer, if you had let WoH know sooner someone may have helped.

If DWC really works for you then I might decide to stick with that whilst I try 'Hempy' on the side. :peace: Eggs and baskets and all that.

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I don't pH atm, takes some headache out.
 
thecoolman

thecoolman

New Member
Moebius said:
All pumps or metal in submerged in solutions of high disolved solids will attract some deposits of salts on them. .. Domestic pipes often need unblocking of such deposits. .... Maybe Iron would be amngst the deposits found in 'scale'.

A new pump that is smooth will not attract many deposits but as the pump is used for months the salts begin to stick. If not cleaned regular the salts or scale will build up quicker.

EDIT:
After a quick think about it; I don't believe its an issue. for these reasons.

1. The amount of iron it could attract would be miniscule when compared to 1ml of solution.
2. All Cannabis plants will use Iron at different levels, A few microns either way will NOT make any difference.
3. Old wells or pipes in the water system will leech extra Iron into the water anyhow.
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I was referring to the magnetic field created by the pump not the material the walls are made of.
Interesting the below statements come from botanicaire I also dont use old pumps or steel pipes on the out put
of my ro water not that the added non chelated iron would be available in hydro anyway.

For best results:
Use with every watering with standard fertilizer program. The recommended application rate is
normally sufficient to make up for any deficiencies in most soil or hydroponic formulas.
***Note – in hydroponics, iron falls out of the solution relatively fast due to use of magnetic driven
pumps without grounding probes and high levels of dissolved oxygen from air stones and pumps.
 
Shivaskunk

Shivaskunk

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Its possible that comstantly readjusting the ph caused some of your problem. I think a ph of 6.8 for a few days might be less traumatic than constantly fluctuating ph.


Fazer1rlg said:
I tried using perlite/verm in my smart pots at 65/35 ratio and I had nothing but lockouts. My ph would always raise and my plants were completely stunted. I don't understand why either. My ph was between 5.8 And 6.4 but I would always catch it raising into 6.8 and I would have to flush. It was a pain in the ass. I just took those plants out and they went back to dwc. The perlite verm mix only caused me problems. Not as easy as everyone is saying.



any ideas to what happened from all you hempy growers.
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808killahz

808killahz

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Fazer1rlg said:
I tried using perlite/verm in my smart pots at 65/35 ratio and I had nothing but lockouts. My ph would always raise and my plants were completely stunted. I don't understand why either. My ph was between 5.8 And 6.4 but I would always catch it raising into 6.8 and I would have to flush. It was a pain in the ass. I just took those plants out and they went back to dwc. The perlite verm mix only caused me problems. Not as easy as everyone is saying.



any ideas to what happened from all you hempy growers.
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Try coco.... it works wonders.
 
corvetteguy

corvetteguy

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808killahz said:
I guess prices in hawaii might be a little more. 10 foot 4 inch pipe like i used was priced at 40 bucks... either that or im a cheap ass and find that to be over priced. Lmao!!!
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Wow!!! I can't imagine prices like that. The 4" sch 40 here is 4.99 for 10' and 8.99 for 20'. That is just robbery.
 
808killahz

808killahz

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Yea i wouldnt have tried them if i had to pay for it... but it was free so its all good... worked really well and im sure they would last a lifetime of use and abuse... it was also really sturdy and easy to move around and such...
 
supchaka

supchaka

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Txchilies said:
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not, the damn thing just wants to take over my tent.
All this and only 2 1/2 weeks at 12/12, if this is how hempy's grow I may be in trouble...LOL!
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plants with a little sativa in them seem to blow up. My blue Hempy had a touch and it grew like crazy
 
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