With Democrats like these who needs Republicans?

SneekyNinja

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TacoMac

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ttystikk said:
Does shit like this have an expiration date?
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What it tells me is that you don't pay a bit of fucking attention to what's going on at the moment. What you do is go out looking for things to cry and bitch about and machine gun them all over the place as if you actually care.

You don't give one fat rats ass other than to try to LOOK LIKE you're "in the know".

You're not. Your a self-serving drama queen that spends every waking moment of his life Googling up shit to cry about.
 
dagwood45431

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TacoMac said:
What it tells me is that you don't pay a bit of fucking attention to what's going on at the moment. What you do is go out looking for things to cry and bitch about and machine gun them all over the place as if you actually care.

You don't give one fat rats ass other than to try to LOOK LIKE you're "in the know".

You're not. Your a self-serving drama queen that spends every waking moment of his life Googling up shit to cry about.
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Nailed it.
 
ttystikk

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TacoMac said:
What it tells me is that you don't pay a bit of fucking attention to what's going on at the moment. What you do is go out looking for things to cry and bitch about and machine gun them all over the place as if you actually care.

You don't give one fat rats ass other than to try to LOOK LIKE you're "in the know".

You're not. Your a self-serving drama queen that spends every waking moment of his life Googling up shit to cry about.
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dagwood45431 said:
Nailed it.
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Love how you two take turns shooting the messenger instead of discussing the problem.

And then you actually expect anyone to take you seriously.
 
TacoMac

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ttystikk said:
Love how you two take turns shooting the messenger instead of discussing the problem.

And then you actually expect anyone to take you seriously.
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You're an idiot.

I actually agree with Joe Biden on this and actually am glad it passed.

You don't even understand what the problem is and what the bill does. You just see a headline, read one bullshit testimonial, and then assume you know what's going on.

You don't. You're too busy being the fucking drama queen, in the know poser you are.

What the bill does is MAKE people pay for their education. What was happening was two fold:

  1. People were taking out student loans to go to school, partying their asses off, flunking out, then just filing bankruptcy chapter 11 and getting away with it Scot Free while they lived in mom's basement the rest of their failed and miserable lives.
  2. Took out student loans to go to the school they WANTED to go to for the prestige it offered, graduating, getting a good job, buying new car, new house, all kinds of new shit, then finding out that 6 figure bill they wracked up was cramping their life style and filing bankruptcy and saying, "fuck you".
It's all no different than the people that ran out and bought a house they couldn't afford, never made payments on it, then bailed out and left the tax payers footing the bill over it.

All this bill did was make the CORE student loans ineligible. The interest and fees were (and still are) able to be listed on bankruptcy, just not the core fees.

So if some deadbeat from out of state racked up $170,000 in lodging, tuition, food and books to graduate from Georgia Tech, then 10 years later was working a job making $140,000 per year, but with his new BMW, new house, and other "lifestyle" expenses found he wasn't making a dent in the loan because of interest and fees that turned that 170 grand into 215 grand, he could still file for bankruptcy and get relief.

But he's STILL going to have to pay Georgia Tech the actual 170 grand he racked up. The interest will be gone. So will any late fees he might have racked up. But by God he's going to pay for the actual fees he ran up.

I agree with that 100%. They should have thought about all of that BEFORE they ran out and bought a new car, and a new house, and a big screen, and taken that trip to Hawaii, and all the other bullshit.

But they don't. They run out, rack up more debt than you can shake a fucking stick at, and then expect the taxpayers to bail them out.

They're just like the fucking banks and investment firms that do whatever the fuck they want but then cry for help and bailouts when they fuck it tall up.

Congratulations, idiot. You've made yourself one of them.
 
SneekyNinja

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TacoMac said:
You're an idiot.

I actually agree with Joe Biden on this and actually am glad it passed.

You don't even understand what the problem is and what the bill does. You just see a headline, read one bullshit testimonial, and then assume you know what's going on.

You don't. You're too busy being the fucking drama queen, in the know poser you are.

What the bill does is MAKE people pay for their education. What was happening was two fold:

  1. People were taking out student loans to go to school, partying their asses off, flunking out, then just filing bankruptcy chapter 11 and getting away with it Scot Free while they lived in mom's basement the rest of their failed and miserable lives.
  2. Took out student loans to go to the school they WANTED to go to for the prestige it offered, graduating, getting a good job, buying new car, new house, all kinds of new shit, then finding out that 6 figure bill they wracked up was cramping their life style and filing bankruptcy and saying, "fuck you".
It's all no different than the people that ran out and bought a house they couldn't afford, never made payments on it, then bailed out and left the tax payers footing the bill over it.

All this bill did was make the CORE student loans ineligible. The interest and fees were (and still are) able to be listed on bankruptcy, just not the core fees.

So if some deadbeat from out of state racked up $170,000 in lodging, tuition, food and books to graduate from Georgia Tech, then 10 years later was working a job making $140,000 per year, but with his new BMW, new house, and other "lifestyle" expenses found he wasn't making a dent in the loan because of interest and fees that turned that 170 grand into 215 grand, he could still file for bankruptcy and get relief.

But he's STILL going to have to pay Georgia Tech the actual 170 grand he racked up. The interest will be gone. So will any late fees he might have racked up. But by God he's going to pay for the actual fees he ran up.

I agree with that 100%. They should have thought about all of that BEFORE they ran out and bought a new car, and a new house, and a big screen, and taken that trip to Hawaii, and all the other bullshit.

But they don't. They run out, rack up more debt than you can shake a fucking stick at, and then expect the taxpayers to bail them out.

They're just like the fucking banks and investment firms that do whatever the fuck they want but then cry for help and bailouts when they fuck it tall up.

Congratulations, idiot. You've made yourself one of them.
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People should also question the wisdom of studying useless fucking degrees that have absolutely no practical application in the world of 2017.

College: "Oh so you want a $150k degree in art history, eh?" *makes it rain*
 
Stink Bug

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TacoMac said:
You're an idiot.

I actually agree with Joe Biden on this and actually am glad it passed.

You don't even understand what the problem is and what the bill does. You just see a headline, read one bullshit testimonial, and then assume you know what's going on.

You don't. You're too busy being the fucking drama queen, in the know poser you are.

What the bill does is MAKE people pay for their education. What was happening was two fold:

  1. People were taking out student loans to go to school, partying their asses off, flunking out, then just filing bankruptcy chapter 11 and getting away with it Scot Free while they lived in mom's basement the rest of their failed and miserable lives.
  2. Took out student loans to go to the school they WANTED to go to for the prestige it offered, graduating, getting a good job, buying new car, new house, all kinds of new shit, then finding out that 6 figure bill they wracked up was cramping their life style and filing bankruptcy and saying, "fuck you".
It's all no different than the people that ran out and bought a house they couldn't afford, never made payments on it, then bailed out and left the tax payers footing the bill over it.

All this bill did was make the CORE student loans ineligible. The interest and fees were (and still are) able to be listed on bankruptcy, just not the core fees.

So if some deadbeat from out of state racked up $170,000 in lodging, tuition, food and books to graduate from Georgia Tech, then 10 years later was working a job making $140,000 per year, but with his new BMW, new house, and other "lifestyle" expenses found he wasn't making a dent in the loan because of interest and fees that turned that 170 grand into 215 grand, he could still file for bankruptcy and get relief.

But he's STILL going to have to pay Georgia Tech the actual 170 grand he racked up. The interest will be gone. So will any late fees he might have racked up. But by God he's going to pay for the actual fees he ran up.

I agree with that 100%. They should have thought about all of that BEFORE they ran out and bought a new car, and a new house, and a big screen, and taken that trip to Hawaii, and all the other bullshit.

But they don't. They run out, rack up more debt than you can shake a fucking stick at, and then expect the taxpayers to bail them out.

They're just like the fucking banks and investment firms that do whatever the fuck they want but then cry for help and bailouts when they fuck it tall up.

Congratulations, idiot. You've made yourself one of them.
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Yoda you should probably take some notes from this post. And Taco very well put.
 
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schuylaar

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TacoMac said:
You're an idiot.

I actually agree with Joe Biden on this and actually am glad it passed.

You don't even understand what the problem is and what the bill does. You just see a headline, read one bullshit testimonial, and then assume you know what's going on.

You don't. You're too busy being the fucking drama queen, in the know poser you are.

What the bill does is MAKE people pay for their education. What was happening was two fold:

  1. People were taking out student loans to go to school, partying their asses off, flunking out, then just filing bankruptcy chapter 11 and getting away with it Scot Free while they lived in mom's basement the rest of their failed and miserable lives.
  2. Took out student loans to go to the school they WANTED to go to for the prestige it offered, graduating, getting a good job, buying new car, new house, all kinds of new shit, then finding out that 6 figure bill they wracked up was cramping their life style and filing bankruptcy and saying, "fuck you".
It's all no different than the people that ran out and bought a house they couldn't afford, never made payments on it, then bailed out and left the tax payers footing the bill over it.

All this bill did was make the CORE student loans ineligible. The interest and fees were (and still are) able to be listed on bankruptcy, just not the core fees.

So if some deadbeat from out of state racked up $170,000 in lodging, tuition, food and books to graduate from Georgia Tech, then 10 years later was working a job making $140,000 per year, but with his new BMW, new house, and other "lifestyle" expenses found he wasn't making a dent in the loan because of interest and fees that turned that 170 grand into 215 grand, he could still file for bankruptcy and get relief.

But he's STILL going to have to pay Georgia Tech the actual 170 grand he racked up. The interest will be gone. So will any late fees he might have racked up. But by God he's going to pay for the actual fees he ran up.

I agree with that 100%. They should have thought about all of that BEFORE they ran out and bought a new car, and a new house, and a big screen, and taken that trip to Hawaii, and all the other bullshit.

But they don't. They run out, rack up more debt than you can shake a fucking stick at, and then expect the taxpayers to bail them out.

They're just like the fucking banks and investment firms that do whatever the fuck they want but then cry for help and bailouts when they fuck it tall up.

Congratulations, idiot. You've made yourself one of them.
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boo!..hiss!..boo! nothing worse than LEO with a Ph.D:finger: you have no clue how it works...those with Pells are hardly partying their asses off..money is STRICTLY metered out per semester. nobody files a CH. 11..what a dimwitted moron. clearly you've never had a student loan and DON'T know all.
 
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Padawanbater2

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TacoMac said:
What the bill does is MAKE people pay for their education. What was happening was two fold:

  1. People were taking out student loans to go to school, partying their asses off, flunking out, then just filing bankruptcy chapter 11 and getting away with it Scot Free while they lived in mom's basement the rest of their failed and miserable lives.
  2. Took out student loans to go to the school they WANTED to go to for the prestige it offered, graduating, getting a good job, buying new car, new house, all kinds of new shit, then finding out that 6 figure bill they wracked up was cramping their life style and filing bankruptcy and saying, "fuck you".
It's all no different than the people that ran out and bought a house they couldn't afford, never made payments on it, then bailed out and left the tax payers footing the bill over it.

All this bill did was make the CORE student loans ineligible. The interest and fees were (and still are) able to be listed on bankruptcy, just not the core fees.

So if some deadbeat from out of state racked up $170,000 in lodging, tuition, food and books to graduate from Georgia Tech, then 10 years later was working a job making $140,000 per year, but with his new BMW, new house, and other "lifestyle" expenses found he wasn't making a dent in the loan because of interest and fees that turned that 170 grand into 215 grand, he could still file for bankruptcy and get relief.
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You fail to mention anything about the rising costs of education, the highest in any sector including healthcare, or the diminishing returns on the investment as more corporations and companies are outsourcing their labor due to the lower costs. You're actually defending the banks while claiming to condemn them as these rules that Biden supports, and apparently you do too, benefit them and detrimentally affect the people who earned a degree with the hopes of securing a financial future because that's what they were promised. Are you going to argue next that "Well, they shouldn't have invested their time and money in a Liberal Arts degree.. "? I mean, all your talking points so far have come from right wing sources anyway, so why not?
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
You fail to mention anything about the rising costs of education, the highest in any sector including healthcare, or the diminishing returns on the investment as more corporations and companies are outsourcing their labor due to the lower costs. You're actually defending the banks while claiming to condemn them as these rules that Biden supports, and apparently you do too, benefit them and detrimentally affect the people who earned a degree with the hopes of securing a financial future because that's what they were promised. Are you going to argue next that "Well, they shouldn't have invested their time and money in a Liberal Arts degree.. "? I mean, all your talking points so far have come from right wing sources anyway, so why not?
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get a job, padaraper
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
You fail to mention anything about the rising costs of education, the highest in any sector including healthcare, or the diminishing returns on the investment as more corporations and companies are outsourcing their labor due to the lower costs. You're actually defending the banks while claiming to condemn them as these rules that Biden supports, and apparently you do too, benefit them and detrimentally affect the people who earned a degree with the hopes of securing a financial future because that's what they were promised. Are you going to argue next that "Well, they shouldn't have invested their time and money in a Liberal Arts degree.. "? I mean, all your talking points so far have come from right wing sources anyway, so why not?
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Isn't there truth in what both of you are saying?

I totally agree that TO SOCIETY, that liberal arts education is worth the investment not because all of the students will produce enough value to pay for the education, rather because some of those students will completely out perform everybody else and produce enough to pay for thousands of students education. Those that don't out perform and are stuck with tens of thousands in student loans will not benefit economically from that education. I believe that a good education provides other than economic returns in the form of richer lives, produce better educated children with better prospects than if their parents had not gotten that higher education. Also a well educated work force might make better decisions a the polls. That education that cost $115k was probably worth it but saddling a person who is just starting out in life with that debt is not good for the person or society. We need to fix that.

I read where you criticized people who get a degree as morons. (staring at you wondering how you could be so wrong)

The problem is how we finance education, not whether or not a higher educated population is worth the cost, because in sum, tangible and intangible benefits most certainly do balance out for our society as a whole.

I admire Denmark's system where deserving students go to school tuition free, have free housing and a stipend.

Regarding Biden's so-called evil acts about bankruptcy, in tty's article. If one reads that article, they would see that it was more about closing loopholes in our bankruptcy laws that make it too easy to run up debt and walk away from it. That bit about student loans is just a throw-in to get those susceptible to histrionic melt downs excited. Federal student loans were always nearly impossible to walk away from. Biden just maintained that stricture, he didn't create it.
 
Fogdog

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Fogdog said:
I read where you criticized people who get a degree as morons. (staring at you wondering how you could be so wrong)
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Padawanbater2 said:
Quote it, liar. You won't, and you'll make up some bullshit excuse as to why you won't like usual
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Don't ever call me a liar. Unlike you, I don't. I'm sometimes wrong and will admit it, unlike you.

Padawanbater2 said:
You think having college degrees doesn't mean you're retarded?

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Still staring at you, wondering how you could be so wrong.
 
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