Why the hatred for Autoflower strains?

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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black jesus said:
A lot of people are making Mars seem like crap. I know they are not the best lights out there but you have to start somewhere...I've read so much stuff it almost makes me want to seek my lights on Craigslist and fire up the s again. But then all I can think about is those high temps I had..
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Topshelf has the best LED/COBS, the duel lux 600 would be beast for a 4x4, my closets like 2x9 haha, not much depth.
 
black jesus

black jesus

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
Topshelf has the best LED/COBS, the duel lux 600 would be beast for a 4x4, my closets like 2x9 haha, not much
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
Topshelf has the best LED/COBS, the duel lux 600 would be beast for a 4x4, my closets like 2x9 haha, not much depth.
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is that a DIY setup...ill look it up. I want to build my own if I know it's gonna cost me less and have the best rest. The area I'm growing in is 2x4 closet. I'm going to vent thru the ceiling and out a attic vent. I used build a closet maid setup. Not sure the measurements but it's a ok size and would need something really cool to run..the plan was to run I t in the garage but I'm not to sure that a good idea from how hot it gets in there
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Big smo

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black jesus said:
A lot of people are making Mars seem like crap. I know they are not the best lights out there but you have to start somewhere...I've read so much stuff it almost makes me want to seek my lights on Craigslist and fire up the s again. But then all I can think about is those high temps I had..
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Mars efficiency is lower than a hps. Switching to Mars to save heat does nothing but lower light output. If you were to equal the light output you would have more heat with a Mars. "Mars sucks" isn't a personal preference thing like a favorite color. It will grow good shit but it will cost you more in the end.
 
black jesus

black jesus

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Big smo said:
Mars efficiency is lower than a hps. Switching to Mars to save heat does nothing but lower light output. If you were to equal the light output you would have more heat with a Mars. "Mars sucks" isn't a personal preference thing like a favorite color. It will grow good shit but it will cost you more in the end.
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So between the 2 mars led light and my dimmable hps in a cooltube tured down to 300 watts my hps will outperform? I'm willing to try if I know my yields will be higher. One thing that has always gotten to me is grams per watt...if all is perfect you should be able to get close to 300 grams from a 300 watt hps right....but in the case of an auto or a sog grow. Can that number double or triple? If I have 6 autos that can pull 3 zips with ease should I still be able to reach that under a 300? If cram a ton of autos under a light what stops them from using the available light?
 
black jesus

black jesus

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I understand light penetration...but with the right strains and plant structure I should able to place several plants under one light and they not block or effect one another?
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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Big smo said:
Mars efficiency is lower than a hps. Switching to Mars to save heat does nothing but lower light output. If you were to equal the light output you would have more heat with a Mars. "Mars sucks" isn't a personal preference thing like a favorite color. It will grow good shit but it will cost you more in the end.
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It's all about PAR, HPS produces more unusable light then any LED or COB, if you buy a good 600 watt LED/COBS, will be on par with a 1000 watt HPS duel ended with a cheaper electricity bill
 
Resinhound

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
It's all about PAR, HPS produces more unusable light then any LED or COB, if you buy a good 600 watt LED/COBS, will be on par with a 1000 watt HPS duel ended with a cheaper electricity bill
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Technically that's not entirely true, there are many cheaper leds that put out less par/watt than HPS.
 
Big smo

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
It's all about PAR, HPS produces more unusable light then any LED or COB, if you buy a good 600 watt LED/COBS, will be on par with a 1000 watt HPS duel ended with a cheaper electricity bill
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Hps produces more usable but 600 watts of led is the same par as 1000? This all depends on what led or cob your using. Mars sure as shit isn't in a high efficiency class. I wish they would show these numbers but I have read 20% then they claim little to no heat. Which is another lie. Most of these new Cree cob lights are upwards of 50% efficient. That's the only way to save on electricity or heat
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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Big smo said:
Hps produces more usable but 600 watts of led is the same par as 1000? This all depends on what led or cob your using. Mars sure as shit isn't in a high efficiency class. I wish they would show these numbers but I have read 20% then they claim little to no heat. Which is another lie. Most of these new Cree cob lights are upwards of 50% efficient. That's the only way to save on electricity or heat
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My mars is sweet for heat, grow in a closet with no exhausting, im gunna upgrade my LED soon, only good for 2 small plants
 
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