There is no reason to believe in make-believe creatures or the institutions that support the continued belief in make-believe creatures.
Messiah
Why should anyone believe in Jesus, God, your religion, etc.?
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Mad Lab
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I read the information regarding our topic on your website, and would agree that based on the historical data we have that it is fairly accurate.
Although, I believe Jesus is tied in differently, not just a philosopher.
When New Age commented about Jesus not wanting his philosophy to be a religion, I dont think he is far off. Religion is not good because religion is not true, but the TRUTH can be a religion, leaving all others to be false. So, Jesus was essentially advising similar ideas as stated in your summary but giving people information that was previously held back from the masses. And also in terms where everyone could understand, not just the ruling families, but the poor as well. The poor were always left out of enlightenment, which is what God (lord of manor)(I would say Architect of Universe but I believe him to be the opposing force God created) wanted to deliver and did through Jesus.
*Its funny you mentioned Saturn. I remember reading one of Manly Hall's book and his notes about Christianity being the Sun, Islam being Venus and Judea being Saturn, the origin of the energy. Abraham being the father of each.
Although, I believe Jesus is tied in differently, not just a philosopher.
When New Age commented about Jesus not wanting his philosophy to be a religion, I dont think he is far off. Religion is not good because religion is not true, but the TRUTH can be a religion, leaving all others to be false. So, Jesus was essentially advising similar ideas as stated in your summary but giving people information that was previously held back from the masses. And also in terms where everyone could understand, not just the ruling families, but the poor as well. The poor were always left out of enlightenment, which is what God (lord of manor)(I would say Architect of Universe but I believe him to be the opposing force God created) wanted to deliver and did through Jesus.
*Its funny you mentioned Saturn. I remember reading one of Manly Hall's book and his notes about Christianity being the Sun, Islam being Venus and Judea being Saturn, the origin of the energy. Abraham being the father of each.
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Mad Lab
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You must hang out with Neva...
Sure Shot
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The swastika is not a shape as much as it is simply the number 4 ~ 4 times. No form without function.
You obviously didn't do the exercise, but are ready to talk about it.
Carriage before the Horse
You speak of deities created from this same understanding. "Jezeus"
Zeus's time past exactly when they tell you. Well, not the day or the hour, but the year.
We are now in the house of Cronos or Saturn. Known to you likely as Satan.
After Cronos House comes Zeus again.
This is because the Father is The Farther.
Like, a King of the Hill.
His rings stay unmolested by the lower Gods.
We know not the day or hour of Jezeus's(Jupiter's) return, but we will mark the year as "1" when he does.
As far as good and evil. You can't define without contrast.
Try and draw with black ink on black paper.
Or white ink on white paper.
Words are simply a means to meaning and they usually fail.
Therefore, a picture is worth at least a thousand words.
Mad Lab
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No, didnt do the excercise yet so I wouldn't know what I was ready to talk about.
So with your last statement you lean more toward the astrolatry as opposed to astrotheology? Worshipping the stars as deities, rather than more of a deist point of view, studying the stars and accepting the Father? Or am i off base there?
So with your last statement you lean more toward the astrolatry as opposed to astrotheology? Worshipping the stars as deities, rather than more of a deist point of view, studying the stars and accepting the Father? Or am i off base there?
Sure Shot
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No, just putting in different words.
For words are simply a mean to meaning.
They usually fall short of their intent. Like arrows, you must aim high and adjust.
A rose by any other name is still the same.
Mad Lab
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Agreed. My "devil" is just an opposing force that is necessary for the good to exist. I understand that, but to embrace the "devil" is different than accepting it as a natural force. Understanding how evil the "devil" or opposing force can be is something that embracing in the wrong way can be bad in my opinion.
**Do you believe in what the higher learning of freemasonry teaches? The road to enlightenment is really just astrotheology for them.
But regarding the Architect theory and the good/evil energy embracment stuff.
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Sure Shot
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So far, they are taking their sweet ass time with it!
Only pieces unearthed. But, it appears to correlate having animal carvings from areas not indigenous to the area.
I have yet to plot anything out I have shared everything as soon as I have uncovered it.
For instance, the math of the Swastika. I just unlocked that less then 2 days ago.
It just came to me playing with the cycles and working out exponents of 13.
Your on this trip with me friend. Please join in, using only math and believing nothing, yet entertaining anything.
A Juggler/Fool. The Poker deck is also based off this tarot deck and these reasons for the seasons.
52 cards = 52 weeks, 13 in a suit = 13 in a season, 4 seasons = 4 suits, 3 face cards per suit = 3 signs per season.
Cardinal(Jack), Fixed(Queen), Mutable(King). Joker(365) day, 2nd Joker(Leap year).
Sure Shot
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Truth is stranger then fiction, they are real and they are math.
Mad Lab
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Yeah they sure are.
Now that I have a little more of what you lean towards, astrotheology, I now know the context of the statements regarding Jesus, etc.
As with most astrotheologists, I assume you believe that its a story that has been repeated many times, such as Eygpt etc. But is this true? Is a story that is similiar to another the same? Im not so sure. Its more of a theory that is based on observation, while possible, still nothing to take to the bank.
And juggling the definition of truth around only goes so far. Truth is absolutely stranger than fiction, because theres no way of knowing it.
Evolution, good idea, likely possible yes, true.. we will never know.
The same goes for your theory on stories repeating themselves in different manners. As well as my belief of Christianity.
But, to go as far as to say gnostics really just told the story of Jesus in the form of an allegory, and noone was ever to take it literally, it was always easy for me to believe until I read the story(bible) again and again.
The way the story read was not similar to what most gnostics told there parables/allegory. Jesus spoke in parables in certain circumstances, yes, but the entire story was not.
Also, the bible was taught similar to how it is now since its inception and likely didnt have the option to change its chorse from gnostic parables to literal/parable.
Mad Lab
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I think the bottom line comes to this:
What to pass down to our children. What do we want to teach them and what we do teach them how do we offer an authority.
Atheists pass down no authority, except there own, which is not a godly model doing so in the image of a man.
What would you, as an astrotheologist, pass down? Would it work for everyone?
Mans fate is destruction, but whats the best way for everyone to TRY to love eachother in the meantime, as successful as possible?
What to pass down to our children. What do we want to teach them and what we do teach them how do we offer an authority.
Atheists pass down no authority, except there own, which is not a godly model doing so in the image of a man.
What would you, as an astrotheologist, pass down? Would it work for everyone?
Mans fate is destruction, but whats the best way for everyone to TRY to love eachother in the meantime, as successful as possible?
Sure Shot
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Ya. It works for everyone (So Far). I'm know I haven’t gotten to every single culture yet. Just most of them.
It's a big world after all. I will continue from one to the next, it's like key to lock. As far as passing down knowledge. I run a private school as well.
I'm a "jack of all trades", you might say. It took all corners of the universe to bring this together. But now, Humpty Dumpty is back together again.
