Why Not Miracle Grow ??

iDC5

iDC5

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Mg worx i used it first time learning for vegging, very easy to burn, and ya would not use it for bloom!
 
eDude

eDude

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Yes, there was a time I think, when MG didn't have many micros. Peters had no micros for a while and called it the 'no stain' formula cause if you spilled it in your house with out the micros it was less likely to stain the floor or whatever. lol Marketing.
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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if you know how to use it, it's ok. like edude said it's not poison but there is a learning curve with any time release nutes in soil. I always used to use it for mothers but something with no pre added nutes for the grow room. I like to water a plant heavy but not often and if you over water MG you are over nuteing
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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If I were to advise those who insist on using MG on one thing (besides there are many better choices and few worse) it would be to start at 1/4 strength the recommended ratio on the label. If you need help converting come back. Ignore the creeper who insists on telling you how many drops equal 1 ML. That's for their nutrients. Growth only and none of their stuff for bloom.

Tightwads and those on severe budget use Brer Rabbit or Grandma's Old Fashioned unsulfured molasses. Unsulfured molasses is unsulfured molasses period. A byproduct of sorghum processing and sorghum is sorghum. Whatever brand - it's the carbs that count. A handful of wood ashes from hardwood fire will give you some potash for bloom but don't throw tons in.

I used the soil and it can get hot but my complaint was how long it would burn plants with as weak as 1/2 strength feeds 3 months in. FF OF stops that after about 3 to 4 weeks for the MOST part. MG soil in a pinch but Wal Mart sells better cheaper.
 
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JudoJefferson

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When concerning public health, Miracle Grow isn't the best choice a lot of times.

Toxic Sludge - Miracle Grow is made with sewage. The cities don't want to pay to get rid of it, and soil companies offer to take care of it for them by selling it off as soil/fertilizers. It's a dirty scheme. Sorry for bumping an old thread but for anyone that comes across this and wonder's whether or not they should use MG then they should check these links out http://www.sludgenews.org/about/sludgenews.aspx?id=5
http://ourgardenearth.blogspot.com/2009/04/scotts-miracle-gro-organic-choice-is.html

The concern with sewage has less to do with industrial contaminants like metals and more to do with prescription drugs, pathogens, and pretty much anything that goes down the toilet. I'm cool with the use of decomposed feces since animal feces is not routinely loaded with Ativan. Sludge is scary, 'nuf said.

Their "organic" products aren't labeled organic by the company, they're not certified organic since sludge is thankfully still excluded from being considered organic.

All of the contaminants in sludge are scary, MG even says it shouldn't be used for produce that will be consumed, but sludge-based fertilizers are hawked to unsuspecting farmers and gardeners all the time. :???:
 
AnimalMother1974

AnimalMother1974

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1sttimeguy said:
Firstly, using High Times IMO is a biased source. They are driven by advertising dollars and by publishing an article that stated "MG is just fine for your cannabis" is clearly not in the best interest of a magazine depentent on cannabis specific sponsorships...


Secondly, independant research published in this article of the seattle times states the opposite of what you are saying;

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000326&slug=4011973

For those who don't want to read the article...

"Alaska Fish Fertilizer products, widely sold in organic food stores, were a little over background level in arsenic and mercury, as you might expect from fish, but still well within the state standards.

A company called Down to Earth Distributors Inc. had mixed results with cadmium, mercury and lead. Blood Meal, Earth Feather Meal, Cottonseed Meal, Bio-Turf and Rhododendron Azalea Mix were cleaner than Vegan Mix, Aged Bat Guano, Seabird Guano and All-Purpose Vegetable 4-6-2, which were slightly above soil background level in two toxic metals.

Products from The Scotts Co., the largest fertilizer distributor to America's hardware and garden stores, were very clean overall. Scotts submitted 163 test reports to the state; 84 were below the soil background level in all five toxic chemicals.
Scotts' Miracle-Gro was exceptionally low in contaminants. Nine of the 10 Miracle Gro products tested would have passed the strictest test proposed by environmentalists - a test opposed by Scotts, whose lobbyist argued there was no proof of harm from higher levels of toxic metals."



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Looks like there is a 0.5% Mg content to me...



Additionally, plants typically take up what they require out of the soil. Unless there is an excess of other nutrients or pH issue that block certain things from being draw out.


I was wrong Ca is not listed however, as stated on the package "is to be used as part of a complete system". Personally I use bone meal when transplanting anything, that adds plenty of Ca to the mix IMO.
I've had a veggie garden for years and never had a problem.


Again, this is my first mj grow so what do I know...
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holy shit buddeh!
 
charface

charface

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I never see people mention that mg has more than 1 soil.
They have an organic soil.
Im not sure what' in it.

They also have the slow release shit.
I wouldn't like to use it because I want control over the feeding.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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squarepush3r said:


no magnesium or calcium, also the ratio is based very roughly on a cannabis vegging profile. Flowering it wouldn't fit very well.
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When Scott's MG bought G&H. An operations officer made a statement to the press. It contained an admission that Mg is, and never has supported any Marijuana stance. In fact, it' is true that they formulate their dry ferts to not be compatible for MJ growing.

Smart growers who know what they did. Can make the nutrient work.... It's a basic 3-1-2 ratio, that is popular with the powdered nutrient fans! They choose Jacks or Peters though.

@dannyboy602 Knows what I mean - He told you how to overcome the problem and where the product has the best result, with easy work.

Now time released fertilized MG soil should be avoided.
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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cc08150 said:
Go get a miraclegro grown bud tested at a lab for analysis of elemental heavy metals and leftover fertilizer salts and then compare that with an organic grown bud ...Cannabis takes up heavy metals and stores them in leaves and buds
;)
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Actually, any heavy metals absorbed would be left in the ash after you smoked the buds. You wouldn't be able to absorb the actual metals unless you ate the plants. So smoking wouldn't expose you but baking and eating would.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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blake9999 said:
Why not Miracle Grow? because this thread is almost 6 years old and the answer has already been stated.
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The person asking don't care. He wants his/her question answered.
I wish I could get a buck for every time I answer a "Do I start flushing thread/comment now"?

Do I like old threads coming to life. No but, it's the right of the person to ask a question in one.
Now I really hate when old threads are re-opened by a stupid comment and not a question.
 
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