Why is Eric Holder campaigning to restore voting rights for convicted felons?

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BigNBushy

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I see it. Like this.

Serving your prison sentence is called "paying your debt to society."

As such, when that debt is paid, all rights ought to be restored, within reason.

If someone gets a 10 year sentence for child molestation, they ought to be barred from coaching little league.

But I can think of no parallel danger like that involved with the restoration of voting rights to released fellons who satisfy all the requirements of their term and parole. Second amendment rights ought to be restored also in my opinion. And if they get out, do their paper time with no hiccups, then their record ought to be wiped clean as if it never happened.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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BigNBushy said:
I see it. Like this.

Serving your prison sentence is called "paying your debt to society."

As such, when that debt is paid, all rights ought to be restored, within reason.

If someone gets a 10 year sentence for child molestation, they ought to be barred from coaching little league.

But I can think of no parallel danger like that involved with the restoration of voting rights to released fellons who satisfy all the requirements of their term and parole. Second amendment rights ought to be restored also in my opinion. And if they get out, do their paper time with no hiccups, then their record ought to be wiped clean as if it never happened.
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You just set yourself up for a whole little league of trouble.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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BigNBushy said:
I see it. Like this.

Serving your prison sentence is called "paying your debt to society."

As such, when that debt is paid, all rights ought to be restored, within reason.

If someone gets a 10 year sentence for child molestation, they ought to be barred from coaching little league.

But I can think of no parallel danger like that involved with the restoration of voting rights to released fellons who satisfy all the requirements of their term and parole. Second amendment rights ought to be restored also in my opinion. And if they get out, do their paper time with no hiccups, then their record ought to be wiped clean as if it never happened.
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There is no such thing as "restituting society". Therefore there is no debt to society. When a person commits fraud, theft or an assault they have injured an actual person(s). If there is no actual person to restitute, then "paying a debt to society" has become a substitute for you disobeyed the masters. Of course you already know about mala prohibitum so I won't drag on.

Many felons have never harmed anyone or committed an actual crime (with a real person that is victimized), so I think we agree denying them rights is an act of control over them and serves no purpose.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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it seems the push to give felons the vote is just a prelude to the real agenda, letting felons hold public office:


kwame kilpatrick


ron calderon


blagoyovitch


malcolm smith

i could go on, but why bother.
http://congressionalbadboys.com/Scorecard.htm


the premier example of democrat perfidy is

Al C Hastings:


thrown off the federal bench for taking bribes, now a long term incumbent democrat representative.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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why not include any republicans, kynes?

good job on including at least one white person though. that's how we can all tell that you are totally not racist.
 
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BigNBushy

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UncleBuck said:
why not include any republicans, kynes?

good job on including at least one white person though. that's how we can all tell that you are totally not racist.
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I would say it was spot on, there are about 8 or 9 black people in prison for every white person. So he had a representational sample.

Which upon further thought, I change my opinion. Since blacks vote 90% for Democrats, and 8 out of 10 prisoners are black, then I'm all for keeping them unable to vote. That would just increase the ease at which a democrat could be elected.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.



[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.






[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10 year old girls.



[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]REPUBLICAN politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

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funny how most of these repressed individuals get done in by raping kids instead of simple bribes or the like.
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Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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UncleBuck said:
why not include any republicans, kynes?

good job on including at least one white person though. that's how we can all tell that you are totally not racist.
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as a piss poor "consumer of information" you naturally failed to examine the provided link so here's the gist:

Looking at the House Ethics Committee historical list, you'll find that there were 68 Democrats and 34 Republicans, from 1856 through 2004 who were caught up in questionable activity. (Note, the list starts keeping tabs of Democrats versus Republicans in the mid 1850s, once the Republican party was formed. Click here to see beginning of the tally). So, from the House Ethics Committee historical list, the Democrats maintained a healthy two-to-one lead.

http://congressionalbadboys.com/Scorecard.htm

but then anyone who reads your posts knows you are actually quite stupid.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
i love it when "civil rights advocates" get caught shouting hateful slogans and threatening race war with other minorities
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naturally, that fits very well with your desire for white separatism and your defenses of white separatists like philippe rushton.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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BigNBushy said:
I see it. Like this. Serving your prison sentence is called "paying your debt to society." As such, when that debt is paid, all rights ought to be restored, within reason. If someone gets a 10 year sentence for child molestation, they ought to be barred from coaching little league. But I can think of no parallel danger like that involved with the restoration of voting rights to released fellons who satisfy all the requirements of their term and parole. Second amendment rights ought to be restored also in my opinion. And if they get out, do their paper time with no hiccups, then their record ought to be wiped clean as if it never happened.
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But it did happen. Released criminals have something like a 80% recidivism rate. We should brand the nature of their crimes on their foreheads to warn the public. These people didn't confess their crimes, nor do they willingly make any effort to compensate their victims. These are people that have shown they have no concern for others. They can easily petition to have voting rights restored, but almost none do. It's not like they are a civic-minded group. Almost none of them would even bother to vote either way. Note I exclude pot heads.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Red1966 said:
But it did happen. Released criminals have something like a 80% recidivism rate. We should brand the nature of their crimes on their foreheads to warn the public. These people didn't confess their crimes, nor do they willingly make any effort to compensate their victims. These are people that have shown they have no concern for others. They can easily petition to have voting rights restored, but almost none do. It's not like they are a civic-minded group. Almost none of them would even bother to vote either way. Note I exclude pot heads.
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give it up red, we all know you just don't like black people and don't want them to vote and favor any method of taking their vote away that you can.


Red1966 said:
Keeping polls open on Sundays in order to allow Afro-American preachers to exhort parishioners to go vote is mixing politics with religion
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