Who Believes In God?

1puff2puff3puff · Dec 8, 2007

No i said non-Christians that want to know about Him... Get it right.... when your are ready to speak like an adult let me know instead of trading insults let me know........

bongspit said:
You said in a previous post that it was a christians job to convert non-christians..right? Have you seen god? If so you should probably go on Oprah or sumpn...

bongspit · Dec 8, 2007

1puff2puff3puff said:
No i said non-Christians that want to know about Him... Get it right.... when your are ready to speak like an adult let me know instead of trading insults let me know........

But if you are one of Christ soldiers it is your job to help others find Christ (if they are open, willing and ready) congrigate and fellowship sharing equally yolked beliefs....sorry...I thought this is what you said? dude I am 53 years old and still do not like that whole adult thing, but I am a product of 12 years of catholic school, so I have seen christianity first-hand and I do not like it...

1puff2puff3puff · Dec 8, 2007

Christianity and Catholic are two quite differnt things.... I dont pray to saints.. I pray to God, and i ask no man for forgivness or to cleanse my sins, Only God can to that....

But hey, Good Smoking and Growing to you.....

bongspit · Dec 8, 2007

1puff2puff3puff said:
Christianity and Catholic are two quite differnt things.... I dont pray to saints.. I pray to God, and i ask no man for forgivness or to cleanse my sins, Only God can to that....

But hey, Good Smoking and Growing to you.....

rev3la7ion · Dec 8, 2007

1puff2puff3puff said:
The funny thing is everyone that is athesis, thinks they can tell me or any believe what true or not.... i dont try to change your mind or belittle your opinion or what you call "fact"..... I simply say I do Believe.... i could care less that you go to hell or not but if ever you wanna stop seeing things in black and white and realize there is a grey area of life, i am Alway open... again, its up to you and no maybe i havent seen God, but i feel Him and to me that is something that surpasses your SO CALLED fact!!!! EVERYTHING IS NOT EXPLAINABLE!!!! Have you ever thought that is was maybe cause you were too closed minded to seek and so you choose nothing, cause that way it makes you unaccountable??? And Rev dont switch my word around and half quote me, i said, i wasnt religous, but i believe in God all the way.... So you have your opion and i have mine you will NEVER change me, and i am not trying to change you. It all comes back to free will, God gave it to us, so we are free to choose and i choose HIM!!!!

Whoa whoa, when did I change your words around? I was simply making a point. I'm not out to convert anyone or try to get christians to stray away from their faith. I'm simply listing the reasons I don't believe in God. If anyone wants me to further explain my reasoning I can do so but I'm not going to convert anyone simply because I feel the need to. I feel that everyone has a right to what they believe and it's not my right to try and force you otherwise. I respect your religion, just not what's done in the name of that religion.

Secondly, I know not everything is explainable. That's why in one of my earlier posts I said I can't explain everything and no one can. Not everything is fact and some things need to be taken on a faith basis (i.e. gravity) but I'm just saying that the facts we have about existence and reason make it almost impossible to consider the possibility of a God a reasonable possibility. I'm not trying to offend anyone and I'm trying to make my point in a neutral way as to not offend anyone and I'm sorry if I do but it's not intentional.

Also, some things are just black and white whereas somethings involve grey areas. Not everything has a grey area. That's a black and white statement. ;-)

natrone23 · Dec 8, 2007

Here is a question to all the believers....and I'll assume your some sort a Christian.......Do you believe that Islam, Buddism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Roman Gods, Greek Gods, Norse Gods, Native American Gods, John Frum, Mayan Gods, Inca Gods, Zoroastrian, Mithras, are Man Made?

rev3la7ion · Dec 10, 2007

Well this thread kinda died... XD

mastakoosh · Dec 10, 2007

1puff2puff3puff said:
Christianity and Catholic are two quite differnt things.... I dont pray to saints.. I pray to God, and i ask no man for forgivness or to cleanse my sins, Only God can to that....

But hey, Good Smoking and Growing to you.....

i wit cha girl. you do what you do if it makes you feel good. i pray to god and wont analyze or feel the need to defend what i feel. other people live their life how they want to and i have no reason to judge anyone. i am a christian but i dont go to church right now. wouldn't mind going again though. and my parents didn't force feed me religion. i felt the need to be this way because of my own feelings. peace to everyone on here. :peace:

LiveHigh · Dec 10, 2007

I don't want to delve too deep into this issue, but I can't help but question how anyone remains a member of any religion. It's one thing to believe in a higher power, which I don't. But it seems absurd to me that anyone would believe anything written by people thousands of years ago, about anything as serious as where we came from. Doesn't it seem weird, that just all of the sudden Jesus was born in the midst of civilization. And he died for everyones sins? Oh please, so what about all the sins that people have committed since then? Or are we good for eternity? And if so, does that mean we can live it up? There is probably less than a percent of religious people who actually abide by the book.

anyways, shit...i've already talked too much, sorry

mountainSpliff · Dec 10, 2007

natrone23 said:
Here is a question to all the believers....and I'll assume your some sort a Christian.......Do you believe that Islam, Buddism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Roman Gods, Greek Gods, Norse Gods, Native American Gods, John Frum, Mayan Gods, Inca Gods, Zoroastrian, Mithras, are Man Made?

lol!!!

no seriously, MY religion is the real one!!! :roll:

iblazethatkush · Dec 10, 2007

Geez, I should of known this would happen. Why do you guys feel the need to attack other people's beliefs. I just asked what you believe not what you find wrong with Christianity. You don't see me pointing out the holes in the theory of evolution or the big bang theory, which there is plenty, rest assured.

rev3la7ion · Dec 10, 2007

Well... Do so. :lol:

Everyone's theory should be up for criticism. That's what leads to truth and general acceptance. I'm not saying belittle the religion, which is what some people are doing -_-, but give constructive criticism that provokes thought, not anger and resentment.

:peace:

iblazethatkush · Dec 10, 2007

natrone23 said:
Here is a question to all the believers....and I'll assume your some sort a Christian.......Do you believe that Islam, Buddism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Roman Gods, Greek Gods, Norse Gods, Native American Gods, John Frum, Mayan Gods, Inca Gods, Zoroastrian, Mithras, are Man Made?

Ummm what do you believe? The theory of evolution and the big bang theory? Aren't those man made theories ;-)

And no I don't think Christianity is a man made religion, in the sense that it was made up by man. I think it was created by man with the influence of God. Now quit asking stupid questions.

iblazethatkush · Dec 10, 2007

rev3la7ion said:
Well... Do so.

Everyone's theory should be up for criticism. That's what leads to truth and general acceptance. I'm not saying belittle the religion, which is what some people are doing -_-, but give constructive criticism that provokes thought, not anger and resentment.

Yes exactly. This was not directed at you, your posts were very intriguing and well-written. I just take issue with the people trying to belittle others views :peace:

mountainSpliff · Dec 10, 2007

iblazethatkush said:
Ummm what do you believe? The theory of evolution and the big bang theory? Aren't those man made theories And no I don't think Christianity is a man made religion, in the sense that it was made up by man. I think it was created by man with the influence of God. Now quit asking stupid questions.

Are you calling him stupid for asking a simple question? I dont see that question as offensive or stupid.

iblazethatkush · Dec 10, 2007

WTF We might as well just close this thread if it's going to turn into a drama-fest. No I wasn't calling him stupid. I was calling the question stupid, but hey, that's just my opinion.

rev3la7ion · Dec 10, 2007

hahahahahahahaha
Just to clear things up from a neutral point of view, saying a question is stupid shouldn't be a sign that the person asking the question is stupid, only mis-informed. I have to agree, the question was kinda stupid since he was using a man-made theory to try and discredit something that supposedly is a man-made theory... But no offense to the person who asked the question.

mountainSpliff · Dec 10, 2007

rev3la7ion said:
hahahahahahahaha
Just to clear things up from a neutral point of view, saying a question is stupid shouldn't be a sign that the person asking the question is stupid, only mis-informed. I have to agree, the question was kinda stupid since he was using a man-made theory to try and discredit something that supposedly is a man-made theory... But no offense to the person who asked the question.

He didn't use anything to do anything. He simply asked a question. Check the post. He didn't mention any theories.

Or am I missing something?

rev3la7ion · Dec 10, 2007

You were missing something...

He was insinuating that all religions are considered man-made because of how many there are when we consider most of them to be made up or one religion professes that all other religions are made up because they are the true religion. But since he is pointing this out he's in the same boat as he essentially put all religions in since he also made a man-made theory calling every other religion a hoax because they were man-made.

The whole post was a theory... :hump:

mountainSpliff · Dec 10, 2007

Anyway. Being an atheist all my life I dont really have too much knowledge about the various religions. I do however find it very interesting that there are so many completely differant religions that date way further back than any of todays mainstream religions. Also most religions claim that if you follow any other religion you will end up in a bad way. How are spiritual people supposed to know which religion has the 'correct' story? In other words, say I had to now choose a religion. Which one should I choose?

I dont fancy ending up in hell or worse because I was misinformed.

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