Which foods do you grow indoors?

and I know what an EMP is but .. how could that possible be worse than radiation?

dannyboy602 said:

any chance of a community garden nearby? growing indoors is nice but it doesn't come close to having a garden to putter in and be with other gardeners.

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In my town the community garden is run by a non-profit cafe that sells food at charity prices and only carries organic and fair trade items.

The garden is on the other side of town, down by the bay. And watermelons grow there. Great idea but i suspect it gets ripped off alot by people who contribute nothing.

Imagine having radiation poisoning and no electricity? With no modern medical facilities we'd be back to Civil War Battlefield medicine. Those with radiation poisoning would be lucky as they would be the first to die. Imagine all the folks who are dependant on oxygen and such....

Yikes!

how does one set off an EMP that would affect all of north america.. Has it ever happened before ?

edit: maybe I should rephrase that..


How does an EMP become powerful enough that it can affect the entire continent ?.. I've never heard of such event before

itinkitook2much said:

how does one set off an EMP that would affect all of north america.. Has it ever happened before ?

edit: maybe I should rephrase that..


How does an EMP become powerful enough that it can affect the entire continent ?.. I've never heard of such event before

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A solar flare creates a EMP on a massive scale, Yes it has happened before, It has actually happened several times in the last 5 or so years but the sun was not in the correct possion to directly hit us,
In the eary 1900's whan electric was basicaly limited to telegraph lines in most of the country a solar flare happened that took out the entire system , A much simpler system than we have today, built with much heaver materials cappable of withstanding a hell of a lot more . If it happened today it would take out 1/2 the earths electrical systems , and componets (includeing trains, cars, trucks, ect.) estimates are it would take better than 20 YEARS to return to a simmilar state of techonolgy during that time they say life for about 70% of the population would be unsustainable

About 10 years ago Swiserland (I think) took a mild hit and caused havok

Congress told 70-90% of life unsustainable after a EMP atack

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/congress-told-u-s-life-unsustainable-after-emp/

A single air burst nuclear destination over the Right spot on earth would set off a world wide catastrophe.


i did write detonation.... Apparently spell correct didn't think so.

NorthofEngland said:

If I was one of the few who survived an apocalyptic events the first place I would head to would be the largest major pharmacies.
Some of the medications would be the last ever made - and I'd want to stock up.
I would get the strong pain killing type of drugs that have always had a huge black market
but, more than those, I'd want the antibiotics.
Being the UK finding guns and ammo wouldn't be easy.
Police stations and army premises would be the most obvious places to look.

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Several problems with that

first off for initial 6 months after a TEOTWAWKI (The End Of The World As We Know It) situation , being out in the open will litteraly be a gamble with your life no matter how well armed trained and numbers
After every disaster drug stores are the first places to be looted, Historacly countless exampless prove this . Thats definatly one place you want to avoid like the plauge
Think of all the people today that are on physicaly addicting drugs bolth leagl ao illegal, and SSRI happy pills after their personal supply runs out these people will be supper dangerous
The only thing That makes sense to do is hunker down and wait out the worst ,waiting for a large % of the population to kill themselvess while liveing off preps

As far as pain killers Stock them or long term they can be grown , Many nuts, cherrys have anti-inflamitory propertys
Anti-biotics , stock them animal biotics are cheap and avaible with no script , Garlic was known a russian penicillian durring WWII when they could not accure it (for good reason, lots of other antibiotic helbs termric ,cinimmon, ect.

I dont know about the UK but in the us their will be guns everywear theirs something like 6 or 7 guns for every person in the US , they die they drop the weapon and someone picks it up , Ammo will be a different story , stock it , pick up caseings and reload casting ballistics is simple, making BP is simple , the primers can be difficult but doable with some basic skills

Learn basic skills today and live tommorow

So I walk down the street to get a bus to my local shopping centre today, and meet this dood who .. Well talkative, to say the least. Soon as we get off the bus he asks me for $5 for a sublingual film of 8mg Suboxone. I tell him "Nah, only got $50" and so he insists on me having it free of charge, all the ehile telling me the most foolproof way to get Methadone on-tap.

Very nice of him, with buprenorphine being stronger than Morphine, I expect 1/4 film will give me noticable effects. Must be some "vibe" other drug takers just sense, like gaydar, but.. Druggier.

Bit off-topic, but not completely, since you were talking about crazies raiding chemists and all that

Dr.J20 said:

Ben, j. Madison here and I totally agree with your emphasis on consideration.
im also starting chilies and tomatoes indoors with several types of herbs. Not too worried about herbs indoors, I've grown me in windows and under lights but I've only ever pre-started tomatoes and chillies. Since I'm doing 5 varieties if each I'm going to pick one tomato and one chili pepper to complete inside. Would love to start an indoor chili thread in here if you'd want to have a place to discuss, but over at gardenweb there's a ton of chatter and there are some pepper only dedicated fora too. Let me know what you think and I'll proceed.
just started the overnight soak for my chilis: Fresno, pasilla bajio, charleston, mulato isleno, and golden cayenne. They should be sprouting in about 4wks.
be easy,
dr.j

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Dribbles said:

So I walk down the street to get a bus to my local shopping centre today, and meet this dood who .. Well talkative, to say the least. Soon as we get off the bus he asks me for $5 for a sublingual film of 8mg Suboxone. I tell him "Nah, only got $50" and so he insists on me having it free of charge, all the ehile telling me the most foolproof way to get Methadone on-tap.

Very nice of him, with buprenorphine being stronger than Morphine, I expect 1/4 film will give me noticable effects. Must be some "vibe" other drug takers just sense, like gaydar, but.. Druggier.

Bit off-topic, but not completely, since you were talking about crazies raiding chemists and all that

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Im a ex H addict , If I have not had any opiates or kratom in a long time (60 days) I can fell 1/4 mg - 1/2mg(under the tounge) for a day and a half .

I dont know how they measure the strength of opiates , but as far as pain relief , suboxone is about as strong as darvacet or tramadol

Yeah he also gave me a quarter strip just while we were standing at th bus stop for me to taste, and after feeling a little nauseous for an hour, I am into the feeling-it phase, so I haven't worried about opening the full strip yet.

I'm not an ex-full-on H addict, but I've spent time in Cabramatta (Sydneys asian H capital), and had a good whack at it. The only reason I *didn't* get to being a junkie was me and a mate would come down from the bush to Sydney on "holiday" for a week, then drive back up north afterwards. We'd do this every few months, just hit the gear for a week then force ourselves in the car and go home.

We'd be pretty pissy at each other for a few days when we got back home, but if it wasn't for the 200km physical distance we could both quite happily have let ourselves get sucked down the proverbial junkie-drain every time we had these little week long holidays.

To this day, I still love having blood taken anytime a doctor wants it tested for some reason, and once I start on any opiates itt akes me months to back-out of the honey-pot and leave it alone.

King of the drugs opiates, nothing *feeels* as good, but nothing else is so dangerously addictive either.

Maybe there're opiate-lover vibes cos it only took a minute for the introductory convo to swing that way

I asked him "won't the Naloxone kill any fun from the morphine/opiates?" And he categorically shook his head in disagreement, and told me the Buprenorphine is so strong the Naloxone doesn't do shit

Gave him my phone number anyhoo, and told him though I don't drink, if he finds a good source of bud, I'll be in that

So you reakon the Buprenorphine's stronger than Morphine? Strong enough so 1/4 (2mg) would chill me without any nodding?

Here it is..

Your not going to nod on sub no mater how much you take , it has what they call a celing effect , It's not a strong pain killer at all, it just lasts a long time , and for the non feinds usualy find it very enjoyable

The naltrexone in the sub is just for scaring dope feings and patent purposses , the sub actually fits the recepters better than naltxrone , besides the nalt. only lasts about 1 hour when injected, It (nalt) does not work orally anyway . You can even shoot subs but it's a nasty orange goopy mess that cant be good for your veins

When you take the strip,brush your teeth and under your tounge lightly, then soak under your tounge with a alchool mouthwash for about 10 minutes, and repeat then put the piece in locking it under your tounge tightly untill toatly disolved then put a drop of mouthwash under your tounge ---- for max. effect

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to LIBERTYCHICKEN again", but it's the thought that counts right?

Well there's little worries regarding injecting it. The nastiest think I tried to inject would have to be a Vitamin-C tablet with a drop of acid soaked into it, but that was some 20 years ago now. THe last time I used a 1mL for anything was to remove blood to use as a wood stain for a hand-carved heart I was making.

Yeah I'm not feeling itchiness or any other side-effects anymore. Well, the only side effect I did get was the nausea a few hours ago, but I had that chalked-up to the Naloxone, since the only time I've felt sick from opiates was shooting Cabramattas finest. That was different anyway, cos by the time I vomited (which was not long after injection), I was so comfortably fuzzily-warm it felt great to spew. Spewed a bit back when I did it too, but it always felt good anyhoo

Matter of fact y'know, the only drugs that have made me vomit (besides alchohol), are Xanax (in OD levels), Heroin (felt good though) and that's the end of the list. The nausea I got few hours ago was more like the 30min-post-ingestion Baby Woodrose sickness I have had from their seeds.

Back to topic .
I have grown tomatoes , beans and basil indoors .
Not as good as growing them outdoors by far .
Out door has heaps more taste thats for sure !

Clint want to try and speculate as to why outdoors tasted better?

Were you running organic indoors?

BenFranklin said:

Clint want to try and speculate as to why outdoors tasted better?

Were you running organic indoors?

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I gave the indoors a little organic food . I grew them in coco / perlite mix under 400w dual spec hps .
They were ok i just thought the outdoor tomatoes just tasted sweeter thats all .
As for basil well that was fine , the beans died on me for some reason after they produced a small amount of beans .

I've got 2x 20 gallon general hydro reservoirs and lots of ideas I can't seem to settle on.