Where is the Anti-War Movement in the Age of Obama?

Since 1980 the proportion of the world's population living in poverty has been cut in half. The proportion of the world living under some degree of democracy has doubled. Access to education, especially for girls has tripled. These are remarkable accomplishments and they are all due to globalization, which means nothing more than more and more of the world coming into the connected world and escaping the dark ages and thugocracies of the disconnected world.

It is at the borders of that disconnected world that almost all the violence and terrorism takes place. Those regions have been called the frontiers of integration and the task of pushing them back further and further, and bringing connectivity to the whole world is something anyone who is really for peace and human rights should applaud. That is what we are engaged in both in Iraq and Afghanistan and the flow of history is on our side.

Already the idea of state on state war is obsolete, what you are calling war is action to dislodge the thugs followed by nation building. Those who wave some vague anti-war banner seldom know what they are talking about - literally. If they were to hold sway, and they won't, we would be in grave danger of sliding backwards to where half the world will live in tyranny and utter hopelessness. Anything that promotes and accelerates the historic unfolding of globalization is pro-human, pro-peace and truly anti-war rather than the sophomoric, weekend hippie anti-war I'm reading about here.

You can call killing the opposition "nation building", but basically county who claims sovereign boarders will be taken under the banner of global government (the U.S. and European led new world order) by force.

Meanwhile: "American forces are suffering their highest death toll of the eight-year campaign, with 166 killed so far this year, according to the independent website icasualties.org. The deaths outpace the 155 killed in 2008, previously the most deadly year of the conflict for Americans."

Los Angeles Times
Headline News: "More troops needed in Afghanistan, allies tell U.S. envoy"
August 24, 2009

You don't telegraph your exit time tables.... it only increases the violence.

It is racist to question our leader.

Yeah all the Obama-bots are all pro-war now I guess.

shroomer33 said:

Well put. I never thought of it that way.

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-George Carlin, my man. brilliant mind and brilliant delivery

Green Cross said:

Apparently the Democrats support the war now

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Seriously...



That is what drives me so nuts.
The people who ran around bitching and moaning about how evil and bad Bush was (which he certainly was) for starting wars are now happy as hell with their little warmonger, Obama.
But as long as they keep hearing 'change' and 'hope' in their heads, they will not question anything, and that is what really pisses me off.

Like 2 days into his administration he bombs Pakistan, and all his Obamanoids couldn't contain their glee with him in the white house.

The funny thing is that Obama said he was going to do this when he was campaigning. I remember one day before one of the classes I taught, my students and I got on the subject of politics and this one girl asked me if I was voting for Obama. I said something to the effect of, "hell no. If you like war, go ahead and vote for Obama." This girl couldn't believe what I said. She said that Obama was not pro war. So I sent her a clip of Obama saying that he was going to attack Pakistan if he got elected.
Here's the point:
Even though I sent her a video of him saying he was going to attack them, she still didn't believe it. She said something to the effect of, "It was a Ron Paul website."

Total Orwellian doublethink.
Rather disgusting.

budsmoker87 said:

-George Carlin, my man. brilliant mind and brilliant delivery

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Yep. That certainly sounds like something he'd say.
Nice.

Now let's be clear. The only sentiment that really counts is that of the Iraqis. The Iraqis are overwhelmingly joyful that someone finally stepped in and got rid of their oppressor. The reelection of the US backed govt. is a clear sign of that approval.
I believe the happiest day in Iraq for Iraqis was the day we turned it over to their military, the most supreme happy day will be the day when we leave. They didn't like Sadam, that's a fact, but they like us even less. We have so far killed or maimed well over 1 million Iraqis, and left them with the gift that keeps on giving, depleted uranium munitions that lie all over the country making the dust that blows a very toxic brew. There will be cancer like never seen in that country for millennia.
As for us 'liberals' loving Obama for his stance on war, forget that. He has and continues to dissapoint me in his war policies. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off at Obama right now, the only reason I'd vote for him again is to keep a republican from getting in. He has changed positions on almost everything he stood for pre-election. Now he is giving up the public option in a sellout to the insurance industry. Fuck Obama.
Oh and BTW, the reason the US led government is getting re-elected, you guessed it, the money. Just like the good old USA, money buys government.

shroomer33 said:

Why do all of the Bush haters love Obama so much when Obama has just as much blood on his hands as Bush?
The Bush haters also loved Kerry who said that he'd 'smoke the terrorists out of their caves'?

Obama is a murderous fuck just as much as Bush. And it just goes to show that the global agenda continues, independent of who is in the White House.

Wake up morons. Obama and the media have lulled you into a trance. Wake up and fight for what is right.

If you think it is right to continue to blow up little brown people, then fine, continue driving around with your Obama stickers on your car, right next to your 'war is not the answer' stickers.


http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/07/16/obamas-war-signals/

http://www.infowars.com/where-is-the-anti-war-movement-in-the-age-of-obama/

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dude the taliban would kill way more people if we let them take over. do you even understand what you are saying.

if we pull out more brown people will be killed than are now through collateral damage

read up

medicineman said:

Now let's be clear. The only sentiment that really counts is that of the Iraqis. The Iraqis are overwhelmingly joyful that someone finally stepped in and got rid of their oppressor. The reelection of the US backed govt. is a clear sign of that approval.
I believe the happiest day in Iraq for Iraqis was the day we turned it over to their military, the most supreme happy day will be the day when we leave. They didn't like Sadam, that's a fact, but they like us even less. We have so far killed or maimed well over 1 million Iraqis, and left them with the gift that keeps on giving, depleted uranium munitions that lie all over the country making the dust that blows a very toxic brew. There will be cancer like never seen in that country for millennia.
As for us 'liberals' loving Obama for his stance on war, forget that. He has and continues to dissapoint me in his war policies. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off at Obama right now, the only reason I'd vote for him again is to keep a republican from getting in. He has changed positions on almost everything he stood for pre-election. Now he is giving up the public option in a sellout to the insurance industry. Fuck Obama.
Oh and BTW, the reason the US led government is getting re-elected, you guessed it, the money. Just like the good old USA, money buys government.

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You are in complete denial if you really think the Iraqui people wish we had never taken Saddam down.

If we allow exremists to overrun Afghaistan, Pakistan will eventually fall to them as well. You know, the country with nukes? I don't want us in the Middle East either but we can't let those fuckers get ahold of nukes.

Illegal Smile said:

You are in complete denial if you really think the Iraqui people wish we had never taken Saddam down.

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I am no Iraqi, but I would probably rather live in Saddam's Iraq over the US Iraq. At least I wouldn't have to worry about being blown up on my way to school.

medicineman said:

As for us 'liberals' loving Obama for his stance on war, forget that. He has and continues to dissapoint me in his war policies. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off at Obama right now, the only reason I'd vote for him again is to keep a republican from getting in. He has changed positions on almost everything he stood for pre-election. Now he is giving up the public option in a sellout to the insurance industry. Fuck Obama.

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I am glad that you now see.

medicineman said:

Now let's be clear. The only sentiment that really counts is that of the Iraqis. The Iraqis are overwhelmingly joyful that someone finally stepped in and got rid of their oppressor. The reelection of the US backed govt. is a clear sign of that approval.
I believe the happiest day in Iraq for Iraqis was the day we turned it over to their military, the most supreme happy day will be the day when we leave. They didn't like Sadam, that's a fact, but they like us even less. We have so far killed or maimed well over 1 million Iraqis, and left them with the gift that keeps on giving, depleted uranium munitions that lie all over the country making the dust that blows a very toxic brew. There will be cancer like never seen in that country for millennia.
As for us 'liberals' loving Obama for his stance on war, forget that. He has and continues to dissapoint me in his war policies. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off at Obama right now, the only reason I'd vote for him again is to keep a republican from getting in. He has changed positions on almost everything he stood for pre-election. Now he is giving up the public option in a sellout to the insurance industry. Fuck Obama.
Oh and BTW, the reason the US led government is getting re-elected, you guessed it, the money. Just like the good old USA, money buys government.

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You must be really embarrassed by your vote for Obama, Med. I mean, its not like we didn't warn you enough times. Sheeze!

Now that we are slaughtering our military men and Afghan citizens, are you going to start posting pictures of flag-draped coffins returning from Afghanistan like you did when Bush was in power?

Oh, and by the way, what source can you site that supports your claim that we (U.S. Military) killed over one million Iraqis?

Vi

CrackerJax said:

No one wants war except the aggressors. That's not the USA. So no worries.....

It would be great if nations didn't war....but let's face facts...humans are violent creatures, perhaps the most violent to ever walk the Planet.

This is not surprising since the earth is based on violence......

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We invaded Iraq unjustly and under false pretenses. We sent a big clumsy army into Afghanistan to supposedly chase a few ragheads. We were the aggressors.

Saddam had the power to stop it at any time....he didn't. When you play with fire, you get burned. it's pretty simple.

MexicanWarlord420 said:

We invaded Iraq unjustly and under false pretenses. We sent a big clumsy army into Afghanistan to supposedly chase a few ragheads. We were the aggressors.

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Have you guys seen "Where in the World is Osama Bin Laden"? it's done by the same guy that did "Super size me". I think you guy would really find that interesting I did peace out Headband707

Cr8z13 said:

If we allow exremists to overrun Afghaistan, Pakistan will eventually fall to them as well. You know, the country with nukes? I don't want us in the Middle East either but we can't let those fuckers get ahold of nukes.

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We have nukes. If we have nukes, ANYONE should be allowed to have nukes. Consistency man. Are you really supporting hypocrisy on this grand of a level. You may think the Taliban are terrorists, and they may well be, but many think we're terrorists (and we may well be)!

ViRedd said:

You must be really embarrassed by your vote for Obama, Med. I mean, its not like we didn't warn you enough times. Sheeze!

Now that we are slaughtering our military men and Afghan citizens, are you going to start posting pictures of flag-draped coffins returning from Afghanistan like you did when Bush was in power?

Oh, and by the way, what source can you site that supports your claim that we (U.S. Military) killed over one million Iraqis?

Vi

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http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

This site has conservative estimates on body counts. Check it out.

jrh72582 said:

We have nukes. If we have nukes, ANYONE should be allowed to have nukes. Consistency man. Are you really supporting hypocrisy on this grand of a level. You may think the Taliban are terrorists, and they may well be, but many think we're terrorists (and we may well be)!

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Everyone should have nukes? I know people who claim the second amendment gives them the right to own suitcase nukes, too.