When Prop19 Passes...

What kind of unstoppable commerce juggernaut will occur?

The feds, who currently have zero control over MJ as it is, will have no recourse but to give in the fight.

What else?

prop 19 won't pass to many flaws with it people are starting to see it for what it is despite the misleading media covrage of the vote to 'legalize marijuana'

Remaining states will ultimately follow suit, who's the first? Oregon? Colorado?

Millions of dollars flooding back to Mexico for MJ will see a decline

The feds will initially increase DEA enforcement in CA, but it will peter out as they don't thave the resources to enforce their vision on the states. Increased pressure on the feds will make them rethink MJ's schedule 1 listing, eventually dropping to schedule 2. Other states will see the light. The snowball grows... Full repeal of MJ prohibition...

The feds cant do nothing if local law enforcement are enforcing local laws, all the feds and obama can do is cut federal spending to schools,roads and other stuff that cali relies on. They are actually a large number of cops supporting prop 19 for various reasons. A majority of black cops support it becuase it eliminate weed accusations from cops that target blacks citizens. Judges support it becuase they are tired of throwing peaceful poeple behind bars, the cops who are against it is of course the feds border patrol,customs,fbi and dea but local law enforcement cops and sherriffs supports it so will be hard for the feds to convict us all if prop 19 passes unless they mass relocate federal agents and waste countless hour and overtime pay just to keep cali on lock.

how about Attitude style seed banks popping up for us to use..?
i was thinking that a lot of people who will want to grow will have zero knowledge and they will need supplies of all kinds - books, lights, entire kits with helpful guides and accessories.. i imagine there will be garden supply stores who cater exclusively to pot growers.. people will hire gardeners and clippers etc.. new lines of nutrients just for weed.. lots of things on the growing side..
on the purely commercial side we will certainly see entertainment venues opening up weed counters - i imagine that most large casinos will adopt it - some theaters perhaps - of course the a-dam style coffee houses - and all of these places will charge 'we've got you where we want you' style prices just like $8 beers at Iron Maiden... a lot of bars may buy a weed license.. head shops that already sell bongs etc will benefit big time..
i sometimes wonder if pot could be used during long flights or on trains or boats? it would pass time and give an anti-nausea effect...

there really are a ton of commercial venues for pot besides just the dried product - how about pot motif clothing and decor? pot plants used as decorative landscaping? the list is huge.. and we haven't even gotten into hemp uses and marketing..

beardo said:

prop 19 won't pass to many flaws with it people are starting to see it for what it is despite the misleading media covrage of the vote to 'legalize marijuana'

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thanks for your spin on it....

I'm not sure what else you would call legal gardens, legal smoke and legal possession?

You are just another grower probably profiting off of 215 and don't want any competition.

Is that the right "spin"?

Hahahaha wow got punked haha 215 poeple, only edge they have when 19 comes through is thier meds are tax free. But growing wise no edge.

ford442 said:

how about Attitude style seed banks popping up for us to use..?

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Exactly! I was thinking along the same lines, something like

Headshops will be online again in the US (shipping only to CA of course)
Seed shops will be online again in the US (shipping only to CA of course, which will be interesting to see the Marc Emery drama)

And like you said, that's just the beginning of the 'movement' especially hemp, and other commercial prospects

beardo said:

prop 19 won't pass to many flaws with it people are starting to see it for what it is despite the misleading media covrage of the vote to 'legalize marijuana'

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Serapis said:

thanks for your spin on it....

I'm not sure what else you would call legal gardens, legal smoke and legal possession?

You are just another grower probably profiting off of 215 and don't want any competition.

Is that the right "spin"?

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In that case by your own logic I guess CA allready has Legalized marijuana-no need for 19. You must be another non C.A. resident with lots of opinions but little understanding of the facts-I bet my assumptions of you are a lot closer to the truth than yours of me

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In that case by your own logic I guess CA allready has Legalized marijuana-no need for 19

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Incorrect, 215 only covers "Seriously Ill Californians"

I hardly call that legalization for everyone.

Here's one:

Independent growers, selling to children, at high prices, sitting around in their undies all day, making more money than most hard-working Americans, on the side of the Feds, and do NOT want legalization, will be OUT OF BUSINESS.

Serapis said:

Incorrect, 215 only covers "Seriously Ill Californians"

I hardly call that legalization for everyone.

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prop 19 doesn't allow for marijuana for everyone either- 215 will cover you if you are an adult and feel like marijuana would improve your life and you talk to a doctor

Prop 19 allows for the consumption for ANYONE 21 or older. Are you advocating that minors should be included in 19 to gain your favor?

215 covers you if YOUR doctor feels marijuana would benefit you.... It even defines that Dr as your regular caregiver, yet many Californians have gone to "pain" clinics that do nothing BUT issue 215 documents..... This doesn't equall legalization....

You guys may feel like marijuana has been legalized, but it has not been. possession of an ounce is still a crime with a fine. Growing is still a crime with jail time. Prop 19 takes care of that, regardless of your spinnage....

I believe if an 18 year old is old enough to kill or be killed in the military then they are old enough to smoke a joint if that is what they want to do. I did not say marijuana has been legalized you stated legal smoke posession and gardens would =legalization under 19 because I pointed out that 19 doesnt legalize marijuana= by your own critera we have allready atained legalization. 19 doeasn't legalize and we have legal smoke for those who need it

Quality overall will go up since the science of weed will become more commercially professional. Although, then it will probably be made 'unhealthy' in some chemical way by the pharm companies and the free-market.

u guys are dumb. in order for the DEA and feds to come in and raid EVERYONE, would cost a rediculous amount of money. not to mention the flood in jail space for all these people. do you really thing they are going to get their hands tied up with no sense drama potheads? this would be the biggest media slap in the face against themselves. not to mention obama already stated pot isnt on the top of HIS agenda. if raids to happen in CA it will still be the big operations and now they might lower their standards and go for the medium operations. and when i say "operations" im just speaking on terms of money flowing. wether its good or bad. remember in the end it will ALWAYS be about money in terms of govt action. .....heres what I think will happen..

after it gets voted yes, the days following will probably have a flood of people smoking pot, and it'll just be free food for the news to get these victory parties. pot heads will be everywhere. im sure every time someone gets in trouble during this phase will be highly publicizied if somehow "pot" was involved. it sucks but thats how we seem to dumb down our selves and make it easy for media to exploit it.

after it gets voted yes, the days following will probably have a flood of people smoking pot, and it'll just be free food for the news to get these victory parties. pot heads will be everywhere. im sure every time someone gets in trouble during this phase will be highly publicizied if somehow "pot" was involved. it sucks but thats how we seem to dumb down our selves and make it easy for media to exploit it.

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Exactly, GOOD one, when it gets passed, there will be massive WORLDWIDE media coverage, especially since this is the first law of it's kind in the world. Minute details will be under scrutiny. If taxation were to start, and the Feds started cracking down, thus hurting the revenue of the state, what would then happen I wonder.

how does holland consider pot? schedule 1 like us?
http://www.amsterdam.info/drugs/
the only thing i cant find info on is if they have an at home use policy...

if we can pull bits from them i know we can make this work as an 'initiative' to something greater.