Whats wrong here?

Chumlie

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One female, and one male about 2 weeks to 4 weeks old

In miriacle grow organic mix with bone mill and perlite
Ph is 7.5 to 8.0
indoors, cabby
average temp 80F
Have pure blend fert (3-1.5-5) Have not used it since transplant about 4 days ago, but have sprayed with fishy folage spray, and safer fungicide soap. thats the white stuff on the leaves. Don't know what else to tell you.
The first 7 are the female the last 2 are the male. That brown spot on the leave that is the only leave like that. Its on the bottom (1st and 4th pic). The six pic showed up today.
 

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fantasticof

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how are you deciding sex??? i cant really see any sexing yet from the pics, and youve only been in vege for about 3 weeks? dont be so sure of the sex, ive had plants in veg that i thought were a specific sex and have been wrong plenty of times, unless you got feminized seeds.its a little eairly....and, you say you go 1 male... well toss that shit out.
 

blazin waffles

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Optimism is the key! "She" is way to little for nutes, stretched from to little light and need to get some mor asap.

So, no more nutes. just water tap is fine. leave it out for a day before using *the chlorine will evaporate*. My Ph is mid 7's. its a little high but mine are fine. Get some CFL's for your little lady keep them about 2 inches away.

And what kind of set up do you have?


:peace:

EDIT: Forgot you had two. The "dude" is real bad off. more light
 
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Chumlie

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The female are what i think is the female has two penis looking things right beside each other on each branch base on the top part. What are those called again? I have a cabby made from a closet cabinet I bought from home depot. One fresh air fan, two exuast fans (in seperat chamber), then an air movement fan inside. Im going to add a ventilation system for my 400watt hps when these babies get done.
 

Chumlie

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Before anybody responded I gave them a fresh batch of nutes, so after i got yalls mesage I went an flushed them. Hope it dosent hurt them. So don't even use the fishy shiza? Also in my cabby i use half a gallon jug full of warm water, sugar, and yeast for co2. When its day time ill post some pics, maybe see if it needs some work.
 

reefcouple

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i think its too early to determine what the sex is, also when very young plants look like that, its usually a nute burn... sounds like your ph is too high also...

i would flush with RO water, and stop fertilizing for awhile (week or 2)... and only use RO water or distilled...

good luck
 

blazin waffles

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what about insecticide, has anybody heard of nitrol, im not for sure how to spell it.
What do you need insectiside for? If you don't have a bug prob. don't use that shit. "if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

Don't try and do to much. I'm speaking from experience, you can do to much. There looks to be nute burn, that is your issue. Just water with no nutes, if you are hell bent on doing something more just add 30ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide to a gal of water adn use that. It'll help. Once that is fixed and you get back on track then its time to re-evaluate.

:peace:
 

makaveli87

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Right now they need better ph'ed water, thats it. No nutes and definatly no insecticide. Try to hold of on the nutes for at least a week and use the insecticide when there are insects to kill. Also, see if you can get your cfl's a little closer. good luck :peace:
 
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Seamaiden

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Before anybody responded I gave them a fresh batch of nutes, so after i got yalls mesage I went an flushed them. Hope it dosent hurt them. So don't even use the fishy shiza? Also in my cabby i use half a gallon jug full of warm water, sugar, and yeast for co2. When its day time ill post some pics, maybe see if it needs some work.
My buddy Blazin' Waffles told you what you should do. Those plants really are probably too young for nutrients just yet, flushing is good. What is fishy shiza? Fish shit? If it's from an aquarium, just use the aquarium water. The pH does sound to be a little bit high, you definitely don't want it hitting 8. But around 7 should be doable. The problem with the pH is that the plant's ability to uptake and utilize nutrients is hindered when the pH is out of whack.

It is definitely too early to determine sex, too, but you can make even "feminized" seeds go male (hermaphrodite, a.k.a. hermie) if you stress them enough. Listen to the wise people, reefcouple and Blazin' Waffles. They're speaking the truth. :)
 

blazin waffles

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My buddy Blazin' Waffles told you what you should do. Those plants really are probably too young for nutrients just yet, flushing is good. What is fishy shiza? Fish shit? If it's from an aquarium, just use the aquarium water. The pH does sound to be a little bit high, you definitely don't want it hitting 8. But around 7 should be doable. The problem with the pH is that the plant's ability to uptake and utilize nutrients is hindered when the pH is out of whack.

It is definitely too early to determine sex, too, but you can make even "feminized" seeds go male (hermaphrodite, a.k.a. hermie) if you stress them enough. Listen to the wise people, reefcouple and Blazin' Waffles. They're speaking the truth. :)
Thank you Seamaiden,
You'll be good homie!

:peace:
 

Seamaiden

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Home girl. :-P

Hey, would you believe that I'm seeing some teeny tiny budlets of life on some of the plants that were completely defoliated? I got some pix yesterday, but been too busy having fun today to post them just yet. Others will probably die, but I think the majority will live. I have to admit, I fucking nuked 'em with nutes. :lol:
 

SquirrelGod

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Over fert and high PH. PH for soil should be around 6.5-7, and hydro should be around 5.5-6 I don't know who told you 8 but marijuana is an acidic plant that dose bad in alkaline soils. Try to flush the plant with plain water with a PH of 6.5-7.0 and just hope you can bring her back to health.
 

Chumlie

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Fellas, there were some miss understandings, but Ive been flushing them both with 6.5 water. No nutes. Im using 400watt hps about a foot away from the top. No cfl's. About the insecticide I wasen't going to use it, cause i was thinking one thing at a time Blazin Waffles. Just making sure that i was thinking in the right. Was trying to baby the "girls", but i fucked up cause all those books and websites do not go in every detail. Exspecialy the important shit. Thanks. Going to post my cabby pics morrow.
 
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