What Santa brought for the plants to share

Dribbles

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Just what they've been begging and hassling me all year for! A change to 100% Certified Organic, pure Seaweed extract! 800L worth at that.
 

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schuylaar

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can you post a before and after?..i'm always interested in a nute that will "up" my game..last thing that made a HUGE difference for me was superthrive and cal-mag EVERY water.

1400hps/ff soil and nutes/LST
 

Dribbles

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I've already fed em with it, but rather than doing before/afters for more important plants I've used Beams Yellow Pear tomatoes for the testing: Of the four of em, three have been fed the extract, while one was left-out and given none. Not a huge experiment, and not on a canna plant, but the four tomatoes are the same age, came from the same packet, same strain, have all been raised together and are all pretty much evenly growing.

so as well as a before/after, I'll have with and without ;)
 

EverythingsHazy

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can you post a before and after?..i'm always interested in a nute that will "up" my game..last thing that made a HUGE difference for me was superthrive and cal-mag EVERY water.

1400hps/ff soil and nutes/LST

really? Superthrive? What concentration do you use?
 

Dribbles

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Quarter teaspoon a gallon is the rate on the bottle for "active development" if I remember correctly.

I plan to only use the seaweed extract now for consumable plants, quick lazy way to convert to organic ;)
 

Dribbles

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I should point out, before reporting in a few weeks about any tomatoe progress there may be, that I also grabbed a bottle of compost tea which will be also fed to all but that one tomatoe, so either product could be beneficial, or both.
 

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Dribbles

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If they both show benefits (although all the plants in the garden are pretty healthy already, so growth-rate will be about the only measure I suppose), I'll grab some more of both products. I find fertilizers often seen to just vanish from shelves without a warning alot, which makes me paranoid I won't be able to get more when I run out, which in turn makes me want to hoard as much as possible. Ugh :)

I dunno whether anyone else finds themselves wanting to go back and stock-up when they buy any kind of upgrade, but i certainly do!
 

Dribbles

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Just got home with this for the garden too. There's only 500 worms cos refused to pay $60 for 1000, so they'll have to be bred-up a bit but what gardener doesn't love worms! I'll be able to toss a few in pots when I transpant/repot any of my plants, before feeding them certified organic seaweed fert and certified organic compost tea qnd some certified organic cal-mag I just grabbed!

on th downish side, I simply cannot filth my mixes with Superthrive or other chemical additives anymore, but oh well :)
 

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KenR

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I'll be able to toss a few in pots when I transpant/repot any of my plants, before feeding them certified organic seaweed fert and certified organic compost tea qnd some certified organic cal-mag I just grabbed!
Are the worms certified organic? If not.... Who does all this certifying after all? Hmm, new job, professional certifier. Need something certified, call me.
 
What kind of worms did ya get? I just ordered 2lbs of Euros, and now they have escaped and are all over my kitchen floor! It's a fun game of round up the worms. But Vermicomposting is awesome in general, and I love it. Lessens our dependency on landfills; and provides and epic fertilizer/tea ingredient
I would've probably made the compost tea myself instead of buying it. I'm still learning but I use... A hand full of Ancient Forrest, a handful of Worm Castings, Some Humic, Fulvic, and Amino acids, and Some kelp. I brew for 36-48 hrs, Then I add a little yucca extract after I take the air stones out of the bucket. (To prevent foaming) This tea recipe seems to do the trick so far, but I haven't done a side by side test or anything.

Edit: I also use MycoGrow in the tea, almost forgot :3
 

Dribbles

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I dunno what type they are, though I looked around the box for the species, there wasn't any info on that. Apparently most compost worms are either Reds or Tigers pr a mix of the two, so I s'pose they'd be either or both those.


I've already started adding a few at transplanting for all my garden potted plants though: since I use pretty airy, light, peatish soil I just use my usual mix till about two inches from the rim of the new pot, then fill those last two inches with compost with a little vege/fruit scraps mixed into it. Just a tablespoon of scraps, and only three worms per pot before finishing with a scattering of spagnum moss just to keep the moisture in 8)


I would addd more worms to the pots, but I don't know how well they'll do yet, so I figure 3's a good number: not too wasteful if they get hot or cold or whatever and die on me.


If it works though, and they breed in there, then each pot will end up a little worm farm in its on right. ;)
 

Organic Toker

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Congrats dribbles!

It's great to read people realizing about binning the chemical shit.

It would be great if you can go green on the veggies you are having. Try sourcing some neem oil if you have any pest problems. If you are interested, you can read about bio control too.

What you get in bottles are not made before your eyes, but you can make much better growth promoters. Glad you chose the organic way. A brother from India will be here to help you out, if you need it.

Peace!
 

Dribbles

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Congrats dribbles!

It's great to read people realizing about binning the chemical shit.

It would be great if you can go green on the veggies you are having. Try sourcing some neem oil if you have any pest problems. If you are interested, you can read about bio control too.

What you get in bottles are not made before your eyes, but you can make much better growth promoters. Glad you chose the organic way. A brother from India will be here to help you out, if you need it.

Peace!
Oh I went back and grabbed the Neem oil the next time I was in the area 8) not only does it work surprisingly well, but the neem oil is created by the same company makes eco-cweed, and every product in their lineup carries the Certified Organic Farming logo on the bottle.

So, although I didn't *make* the cweed and neem myself, the people who did look to be very enthusiastic about 100% organic, and look pretty trustworthy to be. Both the seaweed extract and the Neem oil are pure extracts from a single species: the seaweed is some highly rated Northern hemisphere kelp, whilst the neem oil is pure oil from the neem tree. I'd have to go get the bottles to copy the scientific spp. names since, well you know how hard they are to remember, but any company that prints an actual scientific name for what's in the bottle is already leaps and bounds ahead of most garden nute manufacturers.

As for the earthworms, whoever made fun of em, not only are they organic, I lnpw they only eat organic plant scraps, because they get trimmings from my veges and herbs and I know they are organic because all they get is organic seaweed: that's all I'm feeding my garden now.

I was sure they were going to die actually, my worms, but a few weeks later they seem to have settled-in, since they're all near the surface huddled under their newspaper like happy worms should. Also, last week when I checked on em I noticed that the half of their box that *doesn't* have bedding, but only food for them, the soil level has dropped about an inch. It looks like a step in the soil.

I figure if they weren't eating that wouldn't happen, so they must be happy :D
 

Dribbles

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Wait tell a lie actuwlly, I also gave the garden a dose of blackstrap molosses and a store-bought AACT I found, as well as th cweed, but they're pretty organic the molasses is simply un-processed sugar cane juice, and the aact is a bottle filled with living pro-biotics. I dunno how a bottle of things that're still living when you tip em in the soil can possibly be anything but organic ;)

For foliar fun, I spray the plants with worm piss too. Everytime I hose the worms box, I use the runoff - since it's pretty diluted - undiluted. Just stick it in a sprayer and squirt till it runs out.

Yay for me! I can certainly say, that as well as looking great (all growth is flawless and emerald green), I would go so far as to say that the garden - overall - looks better with kelp alone than it did with 6 different bottles of "the chemical shit", I mean I'd stopped using stuff like Superthrive and other growth boosters ages ago, and was just using a few different liquid ferts, but the one seaweed feed seems to make them happier than all that fartin around I did before.

The company males this fert also makes a product called Aminogro that my locals don't sell, but their site has no Sign-up button so I can't order any, even though it's for sale through their site! >:(
 
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