What is un-American About The Tea Party

Jack Fate

New Member
Okay. Let's hear the opinions from everyone who disagrees with the Tea Party and what about the Tea Party they find is un-American or unacceptable. I hear many claims of racism, but I haven't seen anything in their platform that speaks of racism. What I see and hear are ideas about smaller govt and less taxes and more freedom. What are your thoughts on the Tea Party?
 

BendBrewer

Well-Known Member
I think it is the Tea Party that claims everyone else is anti-american. They are the ones that refer to themselves as "Real Americans".

The majority of Americans just think the Tea Party is a bunch of short sighted Americans that can't spell or get passed other people's skin color. But as far as "Anti-American" goes, that's a Tea Party line.

Maybe you've seen the bumper sticker?

So the real question is, when Tea Party folks refer to themselves as "Real Americans", what exactly do they mean? That everyone else isn't an American?
 

Bonzi Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Really... can't spell and are racists?

Again some us some proof, easy to just make wild accuations.

Oh I forgot they are obviously racist... never mind.
 

Jack Fate

New Member
I think it is the Tea Party that claims everyone else is anti-american. They are the ones that refer to themselves as "Real Americans".

The majority of Americans just think the Tea Party is a bunch of short sighted Americans that can't spell or get passed other people's skin color. But as far as "Anti-American" goes, that's a Tea Party line.

Maybe you've seen the bumper sticker?
I hear the charge of racism quite often. What do you say to the black Americans who are in the Tea Party and the fact that there is a Black Tea Party in Houston, Tx?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
my question is, where was the tea party when shrub was expanding the size of government and racking up the debt?

i wouldn't mind the tea party so much if they stuck to that message of 'smaller government and less taxes', but even a mentally-handicapped wombat can see that they take extremely conservative stances on social issues as a whole, and then deny that it is part of their platform.
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
Really... can't spell and are racists?

Again some us some proof, easy to just make wild accuations.

Oh I forgot they are obviously racist... never mind.
funny when people lump a whole group of people as rascists just cause they dont agree with them, gee maybe that sounds a little short sighted and bigoted
 

BendBrewer

Well-Known Member
Tea Party = Real Americans.

That's their line.

What could they possibly mean by that besides everyone else is anti-american.

Why did you try to throw your snakes onto non tea baggers?
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
A nagging question in the Tea Party movement has surfaced again: Who's actually paying the bills? Some Tea Party leaders announced earlier this month that they're forming a fundraising corporation. Its goal is to raise money from other corporations and rich individuals. But they set it up so it doesn't have to disclose who those donors are.

The head of the Memphis Tea Party is a burly businessman named Mark Skoda — a forceful presence on the national Tea Party scene.

And just as forceful at the Tea Party convention in Nashville, Tenn., where he held a press conference to roll out the new fundraising operation: the Ensuring Liberty Corp., a tax-exempt 501(c)(4), which would be followed by the establishment of the Ensuring Liberty Political Action Committee.

The PAC would be a normal political committee, following the contribution limits and full disclosure requirements of federal election law.

The 501(c)(4) is another story.

Skoda told reporters about the significance of having that tax-exempt status.

"As you know, election law allows 501(c)(4)s to raise and recruit funds that allow us to go ahead and encourage people to participate in the PAC. It allows us a greater latitude in which to execute our strategy," he said.

And he made a pledge.

"We will do that in a systematic way, with transparency that is obviously lacking in too much of the political process today," Skoda said.

No Limits

But a more complete description of the fundraising rules for a 501(c)(4) like the Ensuring Liberty Corp. would go like this: It can raise as much as it can get — no limits — from wealthy donors and from corporations.

And there's no disclosure. No possible blowback against the Ensuring Liberty Corp. for taking the money, or against a corporate donor for giving it.

Skoda didn't respond Thursday to messages left on his office, home and cell phones.

But the Ensuring Liberty Corp. wouldn't be the first ally of the Tea Party movement to cross paths with big money.

FreedomWorks, headed by lobbyist and former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, has said about 15 or 20 percent of its money comes from corporations.

And Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, has long been rumored to be financed by David Koch, of the family that owns Koch Industries. That's one of the biggest privately held companies in America, and the family has a long history of underwriting conservative causes.

David Koch confirmed the rumors at an AFP convention last fall. "Five years ago my brother Charles and I provided the funds to start the Americans for Prosperity. And it's beyond my wildest dreams how the AFP has grown into this enormous organization," David Koch said, according to audio from the online news site The Washington Independent.

AFP spokeswoman Amy Payne says corporations are its smallest group of donors, after individuals and foundations.

Anger At Lobbyists

If corporations were fueling a powerful new grass-roots movement, would it matter to people in the movement?

Joseph Lowndes, a political scientist at the University of Oregon, isn't so sure it would. He has written about the Tea Parties and other conservative movements.

The us-against-them anger of Tea Partiers is aimed mostly at government. But Lowndes says he sees one important part of corporate activity that could raise their hackles.

"Corporations don't seem to me to be the thing that really gets them in a lather in the same way," he says. "Except for they do see, in their kind of, you know, partly right-on and partly conspiratorial understanding of the ways in which lobbyists work in Washington."

The corporate lobbyists that worked angles in the health care debate, for instance.

But for now, the only people likely to be upset by corporate funding for the movement would be the ones who have already dug in against Tea Party groups and are spoiling for a fight.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123859296
 

BendBrewer

Well-Known Member
funny when people lump a whole group of people as rascists just cause they dont agree with them, gee maybe that sounds a little short sighted and bigoted
Didn't use that word. The Tea Baggers I have seen do have a problem about getting passed the color of other people's skin. Would you like to see some photos of Tea Baggers displaying such a problem? To deny that exists is woefully ignorant. And no, these people do not speak for all people in the Tea Party, but they do represent a segment of it. That you cannot deny.
 

Jack Fate

New Member
my question is, where was the tea party when shrub was expanding the size of government and racking up the debt?

i wouldn't mind the tea party so much if they stuck to that message of 'smaller government and less taxes', but even a mentally-handicapped wombat can see that they take extremely conservative stances on social issues as a whole, and then deny that it is part of their platform.
What social issues are part of the Tea Party platform?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
as far as the charges of racism so often leveled against the tea party, they bring it on themselves:

Mark Williams said:
Dear Mr. Lincoln,

We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!


In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the ‘tea party movement’.
The tea party position to “end the bailouts” for example is just silly. Bailouts are just big money welfare and isn’t that what we want all Coloreds to strive for? What kind of racist would want to end big money welfare? What they need to do is start handing the bail outs directly to us coloreds! Of course, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is the only responsible party that should be granted the right to disperse the funds.


And the ridiculous idea of “reduce[ing] the size and intrusiveness of government.” What kind of massa would ever not want to control my life? As Coloreds we must have somebody care for us otherwise we would be on our own, have to think for ourselves and make decisions!


The racist tea parties also demand that the government “stop the out of control spending.” Again, they directly target coloreds. That means we Coloreds would have to compete for jobs like everybody else and that is just not right.


Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government “stop raising our taxes.” That is outrageous! How will we coloreds ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?


Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.


Sincerely,


Precious Ben Jealous, Tom’s Nephew NAACP Head Colored Person
 

Prefontaine

Well-Known Member
that federalists are un-american because being a federalist goes against the division of powers laid out in the constitution of america, you know that document that defines what it is to be an american, or at least the rights and liberties that make being an american being an american, cause yeah its not like the patriot act infringes on anyones rights, and its not like having a private central bank that plans and executes constant inflation robs us of our money
 
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