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What is the difference between SHATTER, WAX, OIL, BUDDER?

Discussion in 'Concentrates and Extracts' started by scorche224, Apr 16, 2012.

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    dowork123

    dowork123 Member

    Hexane is a pain in the ass to purge off and hazardous why do you use that method?


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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    becuase there are still fats waxes and lipids in it.....
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    vlad explains what the differences are between budder shatter etc find vlads vaporvolumes
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    dowork123

    dowork123 Member

    That is your perception that i'm assuming you don't know shit, i'm just repeating what you say you already know because it's that simple...even with waxes and lipids my bho shatters after a vac purge, period.

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    dowork123

    dowork123 Member

    I just want you to know i'm not being a dick but for you to assume im coming on here trying to "show you something", you're wrong. I quickly stated my tech only to explain I don't need to winterize to shatter. That's the only statement I am going to make here because I will only discuss personal experience and I do not make wax or budder, I have and I am not a fan. Have a great day ladies and gents!

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    vacpurge

    vacpurge New Member

    yes, we know that it doesnt need to be winterized to be shatter.... thats very very basic. most of my vac purged oils end up being shatter...

    and im also not a fan of wax/budder, nor am I fan of the rock hard shatter glass stuff that makes shards and crumbs.

    my fav texture is the taffy stuff.... it will stretch and bend until you go quick, then its a clean snap. no shards flying all over the place wasting oil and making stuff sticky.
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    *slaps face* i am the dick ..... your shatter isnt pure like winterized shatter just because you can see through it doesn't mean it doesn't contain 20 to 30 % fats waxes and lipids.

    so you say that you dont need to winterize it, yea maybe for yourself. but if you going to come in here and say that you dont see the point in winterizing and then describe your technique and the make comments after words like "It will shatter as long as your material is pure" what does this mean??? actually everyone around here would agree that the higher quality stuff waxes up almost immediately (i understand your not talking about waxing but we are talking about quality)...... even with bomb ass fresh flowers you still need to winterized to get the fats waxes and lipids out.
    the reason i feel the need to rip ur ass is because you stated that you do not see the need to winterize because you can make shatter just fine, and i am saying your shatter isnt the same as winterized shatter.

    so now that you have been informed that there is a difference between the two, do some some reading and try out winterizing and tell me you dont see a night and day difference.
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    yes i have been playing around with purge times and pulling it out right as its waxing so i get a touchable product, but even then my stuff is wax its just taffy like.
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    AlGore

    AlGore Active Member

    Just throwing in my two cents. I don't make bho, I get my shatter from the shops, but I've read up on the process quite a bit. I believe what he is trying to say is that "Shatter" is a near absolute of thc, and that it is in-fact possible to run an extraction with enough purity to create hard cracking shatter without having to "polish" it with a polar solvent(eg. winterizing).
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    *slaps face hard*
    ill start off by addressing the topic, you still need a secondary solvent to get an absolute, no if ands or buts about it.
    second
    you do not make bho there for you have no idea what the actually process is and the variables that can alter you oil completely, i have read alot of the write ups in high times and on other sites and non of them have the info that alot of us have already done time and time and time again and posted these results and then someone else will do it with the same results, what i am getting at is bho is still very much a mystery, but i believe a lot of info involving bho and its variables and fickleness are on this site.
    third
    if you noticed he shut the fuck up
    forth
    really algore as a screen name couldnt come up with a better one then the inventor of the internet

    no you dont need to polish it to make cracking hard shatter, and also polished stuff can wax up too, we have had a couple of people on here do it, i bet you thought the reason it waxed up was because of the plant waxes in the bho.... thats because you have been "read up on the process" and not actually doing the process. i would bet money the so called absolute you get isnt an absolute

    do some reading in the link posted above that i told him to read so you can catch up to the rest of the class too
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    AlGore

    AlGore Active Member

    Lol wow, angry much? The fact that you go on a tie raid and feel the need to personally attack me only shows that you find some validity to my post.

    The stuff I get is from top notch dependencies that get it from well known concentrate producers that use professional lab environments and processes. I don't buy the bull-shit "wax" or "taffy" or even the "de-waxed","trim", or "full plant" shatter. I get the "Flower" shatter and it is like glass even on hot days.

    Looking past the fact that you've highjacked what might have been an informative thread for people with your nonsense net rage, it is, whether you and your amateur BHO producing friends want to admit it, if-fact possible to produce a pure product(80%+) without winterizing.
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    never said you couldn't son, you must be hearin things boy i never said, i say i never said that... in fact i have other post where i say thats about what you get with bho http://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/735923-ok-so-whats-big-dealz.html look at post number 9 dick
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    i am a dick and i find no validity to your post whats so ever, i assure you this thread has been covered more times then i can count in the short time that i have been an active member here. if i was really hi-jacking it i assure you some one would be in here chewing my ass out.

    and how do you know your getting stuff that was made with flower? did the guy that you where giving the money to tell you that it was all that and a bag of potato chips? or did you sit there for 12 hours and watch them make it?
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    ignorance is bliss
    this thread was buried 2 months deep in this mess can it stay there this time?
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    Twitch.

    Twitch. Well-Known Member

    and i choose to attack you personally based on personal preference and belief that al gore is a lunatic
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    Guzias1

    Guzias1 Well-Known Member

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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    Just thought I would say cause that reminded me....I got a whole collection of tx quarters, I won't spend em:)...........cause Texas is da shit!!!!




    Oh and I agree with twitch....(I think, only read this page)
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    AlGore

    AlGore Active Member

    Wow, lol. How old are you? Just because you talk mad shit doesn't mean you know what the fuck your talking about. You are an amateur, plane and simple. Grow up and get on medicinal and smoke some real shit before you come at me again like a fucking 12 year old.

    Also, I know my shit is legit because they've been making it here for years and years. There is nothing new or mystic to BHO as you suggest. I go to the most well respected dispensaries in the state, and they all get their concentrates from the same hand full of labs. Check out Colorado Concentrates, Stay Concentrated, Top Shelf Extracts. Also, My fav dispensaries are Kind Love and The Farm, if you wanna look them up too.

    None of this changes the fact that you are wrong... You said to get pure bho you have to winterize, and you fucking don't. Well maybe you do as you don't know how to extract or purge properly, I bet your shit crackles, lol.

    PS> I happened to put this up the other day. Not that I feel the need to prove anything to you but I just know your gonna talk more shit so here it is... My first 30 days worth of Medicine in CO.... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...073741828.100003134728957&type=1&l=af326ef295
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    AlGore

    AlGore Active Member

    Actually, this thread gets tons of Google hits, that's how I found it.

    And I'm sure it is... tell us more about your bliss please...
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    It actually does doesn't it....most of the answers (including my own) were pretty half assed lol.....I wonder why it gets so many views

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