What does your perfect system look like?

CannaReview

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No. I'm trying to get straight forward answers and idea as to what people believe would be a perfect system.

Yes, based on previous statements regarding regulated and non regulated sources, however, I'm asking a far broader question as to how people think mj should be brought to market and if there should be regulations and what they should be.

We all agree on home grows to be paramount, no need to discuss those. Let's talk commercial products bought in a store.
If its 100% legal then any commercial product will have to follow current farming/food production laws. How hard is it understand. You don't need LP's if its 100% legal and a family farm can grow it and sell it out of a vegetable booth or a corner store sell it like chips. Hell I could grow it in my green house or basement and put up a lemonade stand to sell it.
 

doingdishes

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Exactly my thoughts.
Do you think all places that sell should be subject to the same laws and regulations?

Should a cc be able to sell weed that didn't come from approved and regulated producers?
they should test so the consumer knows it's not contaminated. the CC's i got to when i have to do that testing-heavy metals, mold and pesticides.
there should be quality control but the testing should be more available and more affordable so you can test every batch
 

doingdishes

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If its 100% legal then any commercial product will have to follow current farming/food production laws. How hard is it understand. You don't need LP's if its 100% legal and a family farm can grow it and sell it out of a vegetable booth or a corner store sell it like chips. Hell I could grow it in my green house or basement and put up a lemonade stand to sell it.
if you had a license then i would agree but not if you "just set up shop" i am against that for any business. we all have to follow some kind of rules
 

ricky1lung

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If its 100% legal then any commercial product will have to follow current farming/food production laws. How hard is it understand. You don't need LP's if its 100% legal and a family farm can grow it and sell it out of a vegetable booth or a corner store sell it like chips. Hell I could grow it in my green house or basement and put up a lemonade stand to sell it.
Unfortunately little kids get their lemonade stands shut down for not following laws. That's should never happen because theyre kids and its lemonade not pot.
Come on, Weve all come to expect better of you.

I asked the question because in the last thread I was being told off about how ccs are better and some sort of Heros. If that's the case should they be held to the same control systems or not?

Should they have to prove and document their sources, and be forced to buy from "licenced producers"?
Should everyone who produces for a commercial market need to be licensed to ensure they adhere to production laws?
 

bigmanc

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Unfortunately little kids get their lemonade stands shut down for not following laws. That's should never happen because their kids and its lemonade not pot.
Come on, Weve all come to expect better of you.

I asked the question because in the last thread I was being told off about how ccs are better and some sort of Heros. If that's the case should they be held to the same control systems or not?

Should they have to prove and document their sources, and be forced to buy from "licenced producers"?
Should everyone who produces for a commercial market need to be licensed to ensure they adhere to production laws?
We get it, you have special interests in a LP.
 

CannaReview

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Unfortunately little kids get their lemonade stands shut down for not following laws. That's should never happen because their kids and its lemonade not pot.
Come on, Weve all come to expect better of you.

I asked the question because in the last thread I was being told off about how ccs are better and some sort of Heros. If that's the case should they be held to the same control systems or not?

Should they have to prove and document their sources, and be forced to buy from "licenced producers"?
Should everyone who produces for a commercial market need to be licensed to ensure they adhere to production laws?
You can get a street vendor license in most cities and lots of farms have produce huts on the side of the road. I stop by Spence's Bridge twice per summer to buy organic melons from a organic farm right off the Trans Canada.
 

torontoke

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The idea of someone else testing products to ensure their safety for consumption is nice but do u trust all food and beverage products that are available? It's fantasy talk
Aspartame is a perfect analogy here. Science has proven how toxic it is yet health Canada still lets them use it in children's snacks n candies, "diet" drinks etc. what about those kids?? Where's Rona?
Testing facilities are bought and paid for everyday to make a product sellable.
People won't buy bad meds the lps are learning this now.

The only way it would ever work and make everyone happy is 100% legal
 

ricky1lung

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The idea of someone else testing products to ensure their safety for consumption is nice but do u trust all food and beverage products that are available? It's fantasy talk
Aspartame is a perfect analogy here. Science has proven how toxic it is yet health Canada still lets them use it in children's snacks n candies, "diet" drinks etc. what about those kids?? Where's Rona?
Testing facilities are bought and paid for everyday to make a product sellable.
People won't buy bad meds the lps are learning this now.

The only way it would ever work and make everyone happy is 100% legal
My thinking exactly.
I don't trust any of it, maple Leaf, xl meats, and so on.
I'm am glad there are checks to catch those mfrs and wouldn't want a system that couldn't or wouldn't catch crap like that.

We need regulations and controls. So I wonder what everyone thinks that should look like.
 

bigmanc

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You can get a street vendor license in most cities and lots of farms have produce huts on the side of the road. I stop by Spence's Bridge twice per summer to buy organic melons from a organic farm right off the Trans Canada.
That's the dream. Nice land with water and scenery, wild life with the weather good or bad living off the land growing anything and everything. I'd sell anything that grew under the sun...have the good old trust system for payments in the cash box at the road. Make my own line of fruit spreads and meat sauces. Have a dozen chickens with some pigs and cows, grow mmj in the greenhouse making oils mailing it to patients across Canada while paying taxes. Everything the LP program is against.
 

CannaReview

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The better question is what other narcotics should be allowed to be made in your house and allowed to be used without discretion of a doctor. This is a medical forum after all or is it a medication when convenient?
If its 100% legal then its not a narcotic.
And subject to laws and regulations.
Why shouldn't mj vendors be subject to the same?

They should be and you know it.
Your twisting this thread into the last one that was locked. You asked
What does your perfect system look like?

A perfect system is when cannabis is 100% legal. If you want to make this thread into "dispensaries vs LP's" well that thread got locked.

Seems you are saying cannabis should not be 100% legal.
 

ricky1lung

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If its 100% legal then its not a narcotic.


Your twisting this thread into the last one that was locked. You asked
What does your perfect system look like?

A perfect system is when cannabis is 100% legal. If you want to make this thread into "dispensaries vs LP's" well that thread got locked.
They both have a place in a legal system.
Why is the question of how it can all come together in a fair way for everyone such a hot topic.

That thread did not get shut down because of me. so stay cool or bow out. ;)
 

CannaReview

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That's the dream. Nice land with water and scenery, wild life with the weather good or bad living off the land growing anything and everything. I'd sell anything that grew under the sun...have the good old trust system for payments in the cash box at the road. Make my own line of fruit spreads and meat sauces. Have a dozen chickens with some pigs and cows, grow mmj in the greenhouse making oils mailing it to patients across Canada while paying taxes. Everything the LP program is against.
Yah use to love city life now I can't get to get the fuck out but I'm stuck as my kids has 1.5 more years of school left. After that its a free for all :P. Depending on how much I can get for my shop there are a couple places I'm thinking. Up north on my buddies 400 acre farm and get to love for free :) or a small town in BC interior and open up a restaurant. Already got it planned just not feasible atm.
 

torontoke

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I understand the thinking behind the idea of having safe tested products available for those patients that are immune compromised or on heavily monitored med plans but those patients are not the majority.
One gram of every zip doesn't need to be tested for everyone.
Things have come along way with mj and the end users are way more educated than we used to be.
Most of us grew up smoking flattened Mexican seed bricks that we assumed and knew were smuggled up in a dudes armpit.
 

CannaReview

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They both have a place in a legal system.
Why is the question of how it can all come together in a fair way for everyone such a hot topic.

That thread did not get shut down because of me. so stay cool or bow out. ;)
There is nothing magic about cannabis as a consumable plant. There are already laws on the book for growing commercial food, making special laws for cannabis is not needed and now sure why You would want special laws as it seem that is what you want. When I grow my own I don't have to abide by those commercial laws and I can still give my produce away to anyone.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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100% legal plant just like basil along with hemp.
That's what should happen, but it's not gonna. 90 years of prohibition and the money now associated with the plant means it will never be treated like basil. Add to that public views on accessibility to youth and impaired driving, and it will be another 90 years before it is simply 'just another plant'. It's sad, but true.
 

ricky1lung

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There is nothing magic about cannabis as a consumable plant. There are already laws on the book for growing commercial food, making special laws for cannabis is not needed and now sure why You would want special laws as it seem that is what you want. When I grow my own I don't have to abide by those commercial laws and I can still give my produce away to anyone.
There are regulations in place for legally licensed producers. I'm not asking for new laws, just that everyone who sells via a commercial outlet has their products held to the same standards as everyone else.

That's fair, and will ensure consumers know what is allowed to be in their products.

It's great when you grow your own, it's the only way you really know what's in it, but at least with regulations that all producers must abide by you have a better idea knowing what an lp did or didn't do over an anonymous source.
 
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