what do you think of advanced nutrients?

have you used advanced nutrients?


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chuck estevez

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And even wiki is pointing out how stupid his argument is.
I'm kinda stupid too, but would you be talking about this part?




For the twelve months ending in March 2013, United States' coal plants produced 1,517,203 gigawatt hours of electricity, or 37.4 percent of total U.S. electricity production.[1] At the peak year of coal's contribution to U.S. power production, 1988, coal produced 57.0% of U.S. power. [2][3] Coal's share in power production has fallen due to major increases in production from natural gas and smaller increases from nuclear and wind.
 

The Yorkshireman

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"

U.S. 2013 Electricity Generation By Type.[137]
An EV recharged from the US grid electricity in 2008 emits about 115 grams of CO2 per kilometer driven (6.5 oz(CO2)/mi), whereas a conventional US-market gasoline powered car emits 250 g(CO2)/km (14 oz(CO2)/mi) (most from its tailpipe, some from the production and distribution of gasoline).[138]

The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) published in 2012 a report with an assessment of average greenhouse gas emissions resulting from charging plug-in car batteries considering the full life-cycle (well-to-wheel analysis) and the fuel used to generate electric power by region in the U.S. The study used the Nissan Leaf all-electric car to establish the analysis's baseline. The UCS study expressed the results in terms of miles per gallon instead of the conventional unit of grams of carbon dioxide emissions per year. The study found that in areas where electricity is generated from natural gas, nuclear, or renewable resources such as hydroelectric, the potential of plug-in electric cars to reduce greenhouse emissions is significant. On the other hand, in regions where a high proportion of power is generated from coal, hybrid electric cars produce less CO2emissions than plug-in electric cars, and the best fuel efficient gasoline-powered subcompact car produces slightly less emissions than a plug-in car. In the worst-case scenario, the study estimated that for a region where all energy is generated from coal, a plug-in electric car would emit greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to a gasoline car rated at a combined city/highway fuel economy of 30 mpg-US (7.8 L/100 km; 36 mpg-imp). In contrast, in a region that is completely reliant on natural gas, the plug-in would be equivalent to a gasoline-powered car rated at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg-imp) combined.[139][140]

The study found that for 45% of the U.S. population, a plug-in electric car will generate lower CO2 emissions than a gasoline-powered car capable of a combined fuel economy of 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg-imp), such as the Toyota Prius. Cities in this group included Portland, Oregon, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, and Salt Lake City, and the cleanest cities achieved well-to-wheel emissions equivalent to a fuel economy of 79 mpg-US (3.0 L/100 km; 95 mpg-imp). The study also found that for 37% of the population, the electric car emissions will fall in the range of a gasoline-powered car rated at a combined fuel economy between 41 to 50 mpg-US (5.7 to 4.7 L/100 km; 49 to 60 mpg-imp), such as the Honda Civic Hybrid and the Lexus CT200h. Cities in this group include Phoenix, Arizona, Houston, Miami,Columbus, Ohio and Atlanta, Georgia. An 18% of the population lives in areas where the power supply is more dependent on burning carbon, and emissions will be equivalent to a car rated at a combined fuel economy between 31 to 40 mpg-US (7.6 to 5.9 L/100 km; 37 to 48 mpg-imp), such as the Chevrolet Cruze and Ford Focus. This group includes Denver, Minneapolis, Saint Louis, Missouri, Detroit, and Oklahoma City.[140][141][142]The study found that there are no regions in the U.S. where plug-in electric cars will have higher greenhouse gas emissions than the average new compact gasoline engine automobile, and the area with the dirtiest power supply produces CO2 emissions equivalent to a gasoline-powered car rated 33 mpg-US (7.1 L/100 km; 40 mpg-imp).[139]"
 

BROBIE

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I'm kinda stupid too, but would you be talking about this part?




For the twelve months ending in March 2013, United States' coal plants produced 1,517,203 gigawatt hours of electricity, or 37.4 percent of total U.S. electricity production.[1] At the peak year of coal's contribution to U.S. power production, 1988, coal produced 57.0% of U.S. power. [2][3] Coal's share in power production has fallen due to major increases in production from natural gas and smaller increases from nuclear and wind.

What are we arguing about?
 

tip top toker

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I'm kinda stupid too, but would you be talking about this part?




For the twelve months ending in March 2013, United States' coal plants produced 1,517,203 gigawatt hours of electricity, or 37.4 percent of total U.S. electricity production.[1] At the peak year of coal's contribution to U.S. power production, 1988, coal produced 57.0% of U.S. power. [2][3] Coal's share in power production has fallen due to major increases in production from natural gas and smaller increases from nuclear and wind.
That and the part that indicates that as a whole, coal power is a minority producer. Kinda makes the whole argument rather retarded. Hence my earlier satirical comment about flying in the US is slow because prop planes are slow. Coal is dirty therefore surely all power is dirty.
 

The Yorkshireman

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I think we'll have this bit again, for effect.

"The study found that there are no regions in the U.S. where plug-in electric cars will have higher greenhouse gas emissions than the average new compact gasoline engine automobile, and the area with the dirtiest power supply produces CO2 emissions equivalent to a gasoline-powered car rated 33 mpg-US (7.1 L/100 km; 40 mpg-imp)."

http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/clean_vehicles/electric-car-global-warming-emissions-report.pdf
 
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BROBIE

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"

U.S. 2013 Electricity Generation By Type.[137]
An EV recharged from the US grid electricity in 2008 emits about 115 grams of CO
2 per kilometer driven (6.5 oz(CO
2)/mi), whereas a conventional US-market gasoline powered car emits 250 g(CO2)/km (14 oz(CO2)/mi) (most from its tailpipe, some from the production and distribution of gasoline).[138]

The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) published in 2012 a report with an assessment of average greenhouse gas emissions resulting from charging plug-in car batteries considering the full life-cycle (well-to-wheel analysis) and the fuel used to generate electric power by region in the U.S. The study used the Nissan Leaf all-electric car to establish the analysis's baseline. The UCS study expressed the results in terms of miles per gallon instead of the conventional unit of grams of carbon dioxide emissions per year. The study found that in areas where electricity is generated from natural gas, nuclear, or renewable resources such as hydroelectric, the potential of plug-in electric cars to reduce greenhouse emissions is significant. On the other hand, in regions where a high proportion of power is generated from coal, hybrid electric cars produce less CO
2emissions than plug-in electric cars, and the best fuel efficient gasoline-powered subcompact car produces slightly less emissions than a plug-in car. In the worst-case scenario, the study estimated that for a region where all energy is generated from coal, a plug-in electric car would emit greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to a gasoline car rated at a combined city/highway fuel economy of 30 mpg-US (7.8 L/100 km; 36 mpg-imp). In contrast, in a region that is completely reliant on natural gas, the plug-in would be equivalent to a gasoline-powered car rated at 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg-imp) combined.[139][140]

The study found that for 45% of the U.S. population, a plug-in electric car will generate lower CO
2 emissions than a gasoline-powered car capable of a combined fuel economy of 50 mpg-US (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg-imp), such as the Toyota Prius. Cities in this group included Portland, Oregon, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York City, and Salt Lake City, and the cleanest cities achieved well-to-wheel emissions equivalent to a fuel economy of 79 mpg-US (3.0 L/100 km; 95 mpg-imp). The study also found that for 37% of the population, the electric car emissions will fall in the range of a gasoline-powered car rated at a combined fuel economy between 41 to 50 mpg-US (5.7 to 4.7 L/100 km; 49 to 60 mpg-imp), such as the Honda Civic Hybrid and the Lexus CT200h. Cities in this group include Phoenix, Arizona, Houston, Miami,Columbus, Ohio and Atlanta, Georgia. An 18% of the population lives in areas where the power supply is more dependent on burning carbon, and emissions will be equivalent to a car rated at a combined fuel economy between 31 to 40 mpg-US (7.6 to 5.9 L/100 km; 37 to 48 mpg-imp), such as the Chevrolet Cruze and Ford Focus. This group includes Denver, Minneapolis, Saint Louis, Missouri, Detroit, and Oklahoma City.[140][141][142]The study found that there are no regions in the U.S. where plug-in electric cars will have higher greenhouse gas emissions than the average new compact gasoline engine automobile, and the area with the dirtiest power supply produces CO2 emissions equivalent to a gasoline-powered car rated 33 mpg-US (7.1 L/100 km; 40 mpg-imp).[139]"
Nice find. I read that somewhere a while back. Does this study take into consideration the manufacture and waste by=products of the batteries? In any case, to me it shows it's a wash more or less. I n merica here we are spread out, we have big vehicles and batteries need a ways to go, they need to charge faster and provide more amp-hr. Not to mention the huge infrastructure change. installing charging stations. It's just too early imo. I always loved diesel. I read where 1 acre of land can produce 600 gallons of bio-diesel. I think I posted where it would take the average car 60 or 70 k miles to even out in cost ? The average rich merican trades off for a new car way before that.
When you can get a lithium to take a 1/2 ton pick-up 500 miles on a charge and be able to charge up in under 30 min ..maybe. We are a big nation, 300 million plus without the fantastic SAFE public transportation Europe has.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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13 pages and op prob still has no fking decent advice on his post..all you dip shits arguing about shit not related to topic should remember that this is a forum to HELP people not jack there thread and argue about dumb ass shit.
 

BROBIE

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That and the part that indicates that as a whole, coal power is a minority producer. Kinda makes the whole argument rather retarded. Hence my earlier satirical comment about flying in the US is slow because prop planes are slow. Coal is dirty therefore surely all power is dirty.
Why do you have to say that word... Can't you carry on a decent convo ...Hugs?
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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And YOU are so helpful recommending that AN crap to people. Want to help someone, tell them to get a good nutrient and not fall for AN's B.S
Now that's helpful.

And it's You're,dumbass
for someone who knows not much about growing and does not mind paying the money AN is not a bad choice. they are pretty fail proof.
 

tip top toker

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I thought that you might find it less offensive. I know what Americans can be like. I'm a Brit, the typical words lf choice would normally be more along the lines of feckless cunt. Something like that. I can be my British self if you would prefer?
 

BROBIE

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I thought that you might find it less offensive. I know what Americans can be like. I'm a Brit, the typical words lf choice would normally be more along the lines of feckless cunt. Something like that. I can be my British self if you would prefer?
oh..but I love cunts. go on.... U just mad cuz I didn't return your argument. So now GO , state your case. What did I say that was so off?
 

The Yorkshireman

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Nice find. I read that somewhere a while back. Does this study take into consideration the manufacture and waste by=products of the batteries?

It's just too early imo.
"The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) published in 2012 a report with an assessment of average greenhouse gas emissions resulting from charging plug-in car batteries considering the full life-cycle (well-to-wheel analysis) and the fuel used to generate electric power by region in the U.S."

And directly after that report on the wki page is this.......

"The following table compares well-to-wheels greenhouse gas emissions estimated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for series production plug-in electric cars from major carmakers available in the U.S. market by April 2012. For comparison purposes, emissions for the average gasoline-powered new car are also included. Total emissions include the emissions associated with the production, transmission and distribution of electricity used to charge the vehicle."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car

The waste byproduct from electricity use is heat.



We're not concerned with your opinion, were concerned with facts and you don't have any.
 
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The Yorkshireman

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13 pages and op prob still has no fking decent advice on his post..all you dip shits arguing about shit not related to topic should remember that this is a forum to HELP people not jack there thread and argue about dumb ass shit.
I gave him decent advice, it's what started the bullshit so screw your neck in if you're just gonna jump in randomly without reading the thread.
 
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