******what do u need to get 200onces per crop ? *******

Use 4x5 for your lights. You cheat a row with over lapping light.
for every 4 lights you are gonna need a 8 inch inline with a carbon/charcoal filter for Heat and odor.
I vent room to room because they are on differnt cycles. All my fans are on thermostats cept for 1 oscolating fan per room. i use 2 standup/wall mount per 4 lights. i use a 12000 btu air conditioner for one room and a three fan watercooled fan chiller for another larger room. They both go off when my lights go off but my fans stay on for two minutes. My thermostat is set for 28c so turns on when temps reach thirty and turn off when they reach 26c. I vent room to room to increase air flow in the rooms that are sleeping. I also run dehumidifiers 24/7 and burn sulpher 45 minutes a day.
I burn co2 in the room with the a/c. The Co2 doesnt leave my area because it is vented room to room. I set it for 900 so the build up isnt crazy Plus the plants give off co2 when they are sleeping. I also set my a/c to lower than my thermostats so my fans arent on as much. Buy a ppm pen and you learn faster. also run two differnt cycles so you know your strain very well.
Watch out for light leaks coming into your room and outside your room. Thermonitor and humidistat. I get 1 digital to see high and lows and one mercury to get more accurate readings.

mowgly said:

thx for ur input guys
i think i didnt make my question really clear tho
i got my own idea already that is probably a good one
i know loads of strains i know about lighting
i know bout soil,hydro,aeroponic
i know about possible disease bugs etc
i belive im pretty clued up about growing etc but that is not the question
the question is
what would U do
if uve done it how did u do it
as different ideas, a few brains always better than one
thats it really i hope its a bit clearer now
peace

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If you knew so much why ask questions.

message to all most of u actually make me laugh so quick to judge people again i repeat coz some people seem to be thick in here
ive never i wanted to do this my goal is to demonstrate something so re read from the begining or learn how to read please god
to all the others that actually tried to give some input thx
but thx to the judgemental moody moaning others 2 as they will prove my point soon enuff
remember the post is aim at the UK really when im done people here would understand i hope and will all make sense if u wanna know b4 everybody u ll need more than 500 post and pm me but i will post everything on here in the next couple of weeks as i need more input for proper stats
thx

jimbizzzale67123 said:

If you knew so much why ask questions.

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if u follow the threads ull get ur answer soon

10 x 600w HPS lights
11 litre pots x 90
Cana profesional mixed with perlite and 2" pebbles on bottom.
10" Extractor with carbon filter.
10" inlet fan.
3 pedistal osculating fans.
PH tester.
Mini max for tempeture readings and humidity.
Used rhizotonic and bio cana boost when in flower.
Used auto feminised seeds.
This is first grow and had problems but thank god for the internet and this site.
Harvest due in 2 weeks.
Hard to estimate yield but will let you know.



If your in the uk I would get cuttings

its just that, only or mostly newbies ask that yield in general question.

and if ya have to ask..and go for that huge crop thing (which makes ya sound desperate for money)

that makes people go, eh, maybe you should ease into something that big.
i know i would.

sure, big risk, big payoff, but with a grow that big, there are soo many frigging details, not something to jump into.

and again,if ya have to ask, then ya are probably a training wheel or 2 from your set goal.

course ya might be a genius, i dont know lol.

redsouthy said:

10 x 600w HPS lights
11 litre pots x 90
Cana profesional mixed with perlite and 2" pebbles on bottom.
10" Extractor with carbon filter.
10" inlet fan.
3 pedistal osculating fans.
PH tester.
Mini max for tempeture readings and humidity.
Used rhizotonic and bio cana boost when in flower.
Used auto feminised seeds.
This is first grow and had problems but thank god for the internet and this site.
Harvest due in 2 weeks.
Hard to estimate yield but will let you know.



If your in the uk I would get cuttings

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sso said:

its just that, only or mostly newbies ask that yield in general question.

and if ya have to ask..and go for that huge crop thing (which makes ya sound desperate for money)

that makes people go, eh, maybe you should ease into something that big.
i know i would.

sure, big risk, big payoff, but with a grow that big, there are soo many frigging details, not something to jump into.

and again,if ya have to ask, then ya are probably a training wheel or 2 from your set goal.

course ya might be a genius, i dont know lol.

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thx for the rplies guys
trust me im not desperate not a genius and again i didnt start the trhreads saying i wanna do that how should i do it
i said how would U do it im not trying to make big money or whatever im ok with my nice lil average life im not 18 not even in my 20s no more
so again n again
im trying to demonstrate something + at the same time it is interesting to c how people react to it all n more
peace

Yes an experiment.. Don't you guys know? This guy's a sociologist.

maybe you could let us in on the point you're trying to prove, because your first post comes off a bit like a novice grower dreaming of going big but having no clue how to get there. i am more than happy do help you with your research if you will be a bit more straight forward about it. what are you trying to prove and to whom? i wonder if we should be getting geared up for an other hydro vs. soil or LED vs HID debate.

i would go for a NFT or RDWC style SOG...
but maintaining enough moms wont be easy at all.... you would need several moms of each strain to have enough. once you have em rooted, if you SOG your going to harvest in less than 12 weeks unless your running sativas..... expect 1/2-1z per sog style plant if u run em fast. u can get up to 1.5 per plant, but the extra veg time kinda defeats the purpose.
i would suggest kill-a-watt by seedism......
you will have almost as much space dedicated to moms and cuttings as you would the grow....

Something like this is what ya need

bb57

mowgly said:

thx for ur input guys
i think i didnt make my question really clear tho
i got my own idea already that is probably a good one
i know loads of strains i know about lighting
i know bout soil,hydro,aeroponic
i know about possible disease bugs etc
i belive im pretty clued up about growing etc but that is not the question
the question is
what would U do
if uve done it how did u do it
as different ideas, a few brains always better than one
thats it really i hope its a bit clearer now
peace

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mowgly said:

first thx for stopping by i appreciate that
as im in the uk i dont really wanna go into details bout growing experience
and i dont belive in people who brag coz u may think its a lie or overexagerated etc
all i can say really is i use to live in the south of france and got a fair share of nice big crop guerilla style i think u say in the US and a bit less experience indoor
but that being said im really not trying to do all that on my own or got the million dollar stupid idea
im trying to demonstrate something for the uk
+ its always interesting to c how different people would manage a setup differently for a same goal
now i think rite know u the one with the most experience on here
what would u do
space wise
wattage wise
system wise
how would u deal with that much electricity
etc
i basically want people to give me there ideas if they ad the money the space the know how the time etc how would they do it maybe just one maybe 2-3 different setpup to compare on different budgets but all indoor
thx
peace
ps : if im still not clear just ask and if u dont have time thx for stopping by anyway

u in california rite ? is it possible for europeen to come there and get a medical card for weed or do they have to live there + lets say i move there would i be able to grow ive always asked myself that question
thx again

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These 2 posts along with the original says it all. Its all just a 420 pipe dream.............

SCCA said:

maybe you could let us in on the point you're trying to prove, because your first post comes off a bit like a novice grower dreaming of going big but having no clue how to get there. i am more than happy do help you with your research if you will be a bit more straight forward about it. what are you trying to prove and to whom? i wonder if we should be getting geared up for an other hydro vs. soil or LED vs HID debate.

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fair enuff but me actually explaning the purpose now or at the begining actually kills the result
a clue
i need people point of view i need enuff thruthfull input
at the end i will be able to show u guys but not only u guys the purpose
if i tell u im coca cola n im running a survey on pepsi or whatever im gonna try to be discreet bout it no ?
probably a shitty exemple but that was the only one i could think of
i need people to be honest without me influencing em
hope people get the point now really do
thx
peace

yep thats much clearer, (No coke! Pepsi!) maybe you could write up a survey with some specific questions. i can give you a basic set up that can produce what you are going for but so many things are site specific that you cant take them all into account.

what i would do... well thats simple, get the largest warehouse i can 1000+ sq ft. divide it into a propagation room about 12'x10', a veg room about 12'x20', and a flower room about 20'x30'. hang 1- 1000w lamp & 4 -5 bulb T5 lamps in the prop room, 8- 1000w lamps in the veg room and 16- 1000w lamps in the flower room. install large drain tables under every 4 lights, plumbed to drain out of the warehouse or down a sewer. for watering a 200g res for each room (flower and veg), plumbed with hot and cold water. an irrigation pump hooked up to each res to feed drip irrigation in each pot. 16 large plants (10g) on each table tied and super cropped or 64 medium plants (5g) only super cropped, all in good potting soil. harvest one table every 2 weeks. should yield about 4 lbs per table. all the necessary ventilation equipment and climate control is site specific.

a system like this can be maintained by one or two skilled growers with hired trimmers. the hardest part is actually keeping everything on a schedule. all supplies needed for about 2 crops should be kept on hand, you never know when the suppliers will run out. as far as moving to cali to grow, its too hard unless you have a huge amount of capitol and good connections. if you want to move to a medical state, try Michigan, Arizona, New Mexico, or Vermont. they all have budding cannabis industries that aren't nearly as flooded as California.

try this grow 2 plants under a 400, pull 4 oz, then go buy 196 oz.. 200 zips every harvest..just like that.

i don't know what this guy is trying to "demonstrate", but giving a guy who appears to have so little experience suggestions on how to grow that much pot is pretty much equivalent to buying a 14 year old a pack of smokes. i will have no part in it. i mean good luck and all. just don't drop the soap.

lemonz said:

15x600w lamps if you got a decent growing enviroment 20 600w lamps to make sure you get 200 oz (most people will state less light but with a big operation it would be harder to get plant to optimum out put_
15x air cooled hoods
4 plants under every lamp
60x 5 gallon pots
10xosc fans for air movement
10,000 m3 extractor and filter to match
5000+ m3 intake
300 gallons + soil/coco
mylar sheeting
15x meter squared drip trays
massive water tank
combo meter
temp and humidity reader
alot of nutrients
alot of electric
alot of time

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You left out ....
Five golden rings,
Four calling birds,
Three French hens,
Two turtledoves,
And a partridge in a pear tree


After thinking about it a while I realized that the person you were advising might possibly be Canadian, and if so then this would be what you left out.


Five golden toques
Four pounds of back-bacon
Three French toast
Two turtle necks
And a beer ..
In a tree

Brick Top said:

You left out ....
Five golden rings,
Four calling birds,
Three French hens,
Two turtledoves,
And a partridge in a pear tree

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i knew there would be a few things i missed out

When the op can simply view 100s of setups here and do their own 'comparison' in their head, I'm getting the feeling that this is another one of those threads where eventually the op is gonna claim they got the same harvest(s) from their single $25 halogen shop light.

OR................

mowgly said:

fair enuff but me actually explaning the purpose now or at the begining actually kills the result
a clue
i need people point of view i need enuff thruthfull input
at the end i will be able to show u guys but not only u guys the purpose
if i tell u im coca cola n im running a survey on pepsi or whatever im gonna try to be discreet bout it no ?
probably a shitty exemple but that was the only one i could think of
i need people to be honest without me influencing em
hope people get the point now really do
thx
peace

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That whole post could be taken as a cop trying to get you to self-incriminate yourself.
Especially this part: 'i need people to be honest without me influencing em'.
Something to think about.

Rj41 said:

Now for the nervous people................

That whole post could be taken as a cop trying to get you to self-incriminate yourself.
Especially this part: 'i need people to be honest without me influencing em'.
Something to think about.

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Possibly but I believe is too be more along the lines of some kid fantasizing about becoming a major pot producer and all the money he could earn and enjoying the fantasy of being rich beyond the dreams of avarice. The whole teen money for nothing and chicks for free fantasy.

When someone says things like, do you want me to be honest with you, can I be honest with you, come on now, you can be honest with me, I want you to be honest with me ... etc. often times that is an unintentional sign from the person's subconscious mind that they themselves are not honest. If they say, can I be honest with you, do you want me to be honest with you, something many salespeople make the TERRIBLE mistake of saying, that is because they know they lie through their teeth and while they do not realize they are disclosing that fact they preface what they are about to say with a statement like that attempting to establish that it will indeed be truthful, when normally it will not be. When asking for the truth, saying come on now, be honest with me, you can be honest with me, I really need your honest opinion, etc. that will at times come from them not being honest and since that is the norm for them they do not expect honesty from others and feel they need to ask for it to receive it and sometimes practically beg for it.

Sometimes though it can just be a sign of insecurity. That is often seen in relationships where some insecure lunachik uses those sort of phrases with her guy fairly often, but they can also come from a lying cheating heartbreaker babe too, so it is difficult to determine which is the true reason for them being used.

They are red flags waving about the distinct possibility of dishonesty of some sort on some level for some reason being involved.