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beenthere

New Member
All this ranting and raving while his far left radical brethren are on another thread defending a law outlawing large sodas. UnFucking believable!
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
All this ranting and raving while his far left radical brethren are on another thread defending a law outlawing large sodas. UnFucking believable!
Perhaps that's a mistake on your part grouping individual people with individual ideas and opinions together.

IMO, people should be able to put whatever they want into their own bodies, that would include 15 liters of soda per day if that's what they wanted to do. But I also think that if someone decides to do something like that to themselves, they have to face the consequences themselves and not expect anyone, namely the government, to come to their aid when they develop type 2 diabetes or heart disease from being obese.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger

That's semantics. It's exactly the tactic I'd expect Spitzer to use. You and I both know that while it may not be illegal to have drugs in your system (because there is no way to prove you purposefully put them in your body, when, or how much), it is illegal to posses, transport or manufacture them, which is all that is needed to arrest people, as the statistics show.

IOW, it doesn't matter if "using" drugs is illegal because everything else tied to them is, and anyone who uses them is likely in violation of the written law.
you do realize padawan that in some countries simply having drugs in your system is enough for arrest under the guise of possession, ie, abu dhabi.. they don't care when it was ingested or how much and whether someone accidentily stuck a needle full of heroin in your arm while you weren't looking or if you did it yourself..
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
you do realize padawan that in some countries simply having drugs in your system is enough for arrest under the guise of possession, ie, abu dhabi.. they don't care when it was ingested or how much and whether someone accidentily stuck a needle full of heroin in your arm while you weren't looking or if you did it yourself..
No I wasn't aware of that. I guess that's one thing the US got right, then. Innocent until proven guilty.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
All this ranting and raving while his far left radical brethren are on another thread defending a law outlawing large sodas. UnFucking believable!

got a problem with local laws being enacted by localities in order to govern local people? I thought you were for that sort of thing. Gee, maybe we should have a federal law banning the banning of large sodas.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
It's not illegal to use drugs dude. Check the laws, they only make possession, operating under the influence of, manufacturing,or facilitating in their trade illegal. Ever got popped on a piss test? Did a cop come and arrest you?
having a drug in your body is being in possession of that drug, smarty. check the law.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I was wrong about that, but this is pretty interesting...


  1. One hypothesis suggests a causal link between legalized abortion and the drop in crime during the 1990s.[SUP][8][/SUP]
  2. Another hypothesis suggests reduced lead exposure as the cause; Scholar Mark A.R. Kleiman writes: "Given the decrease in lead exposure among children since the 1980s and the estimated effects of lead on crime, reduced lead exposure could easily explain a very large proportion—certainly more than half—of the crime decrease of the 1994-2004 period. A careful statistical study relating local changes in lead exposure to local crime rates estimates the fraction of the crime decline due to lead reduction as greater than 90 percent.
both ridiculous hypotheses.

could make a better case that crime goes up when the economy is down and vice versa.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
if i drew a line from the start of that graph to the end of that graph, the line slopes upwards.
It looks like the question is - what happened around 1990 that led to a decrease in total violent crimes?

Since this is a topic about the war on drugs, had anything significant happened in that regard in the 90's? If not, it seems likely there are other variables unaccounted for.
 
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