US mother accidentally shot dead by two-year-old son

Rob Roy

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I'm not represented by a party that exists in the current political spectrum and I've lost pretty much all hope that we have a healthy or working political system left.

I think that it's unfortunate that these corporate states of america have her citizen's thinking in the binary context you're declaring. The last two presidents, first a republican, then a democrat, trounced all over your personal freedoms. Neither democrat nor republican is even really talking about the appropriateness of our current military industrial complex spending. We (our corporate oppressors) have essentially decided this spending will remain in perpetuity (ratifying the 16th amendment in 1913) after fundraising to finance WWI. Why not? there's big business in war...

I would surmise that the move to the federal reserve system, planned in meetings in 1910 predetermined the need for the constant taxation allowed by ratifying the 16th amendment. Essentially, our government opened up a line of credit against the taxes on income created by us, her citizens.

I also really believe that most of us have more common ground than we realize, and that I also believe we would do really well to leave the scripted talking points in the garbage. Think outside the confines of the presented binary conclusions. Just because something is presented as (a or b) doesn't mean we can't say, fuck all of that, how about c.

I believe you should retain your freedom, your income, your right to your own body and your right to explore your own consciousness. And so should everyone else. What happens though when one of our fellow citizens is unable to care for themselves? How free and enlightened are we if we walk by and ignore our brother or sister? Are we willing to let their life fail because we're free to be unencumbered, regardless? I appreciate the passion for personal freedom and liberty, but what is that, really, if we're all a bunch of assholes - completely lacking in empathy for our fellow man?

At this point our corporate overlords have got the masses pinned into two idealogical camps: (For life at birth, gun control, universally available health care and managed immigration) vs (for life at conception, full gun freedoms, pay your own damn way healthcare and using forceful means to deter immigration). People usually find enough common in one camp or another to back a candidate, and when they get their chosen representative elected, are subject to whatever their candidate promised all the corporations and bedfellows that helped them get into office. They don't care about the ideology they promoted to get your vote, only that they'll be walking away from their tenure in political office with a plush bank account and a primed career.

All of this, is what we the people really need to tear down.

I do my best not to mix my own personal moral convictions with my politics. There are many things that I don't personally espouse, some even from my own concepts of morality, that I would nonetheless fight for another's right's regarding. I believe this separation is integral to being able to approach topics like government formation with your fellow man/woman.

Most don't know this, but our founding fathers were largely following tenants of Deism not Christianity as their religious base.

Truthfully, we were provided by our founding forefathers, a political system that needs constant upkeep and maintenance. Who want's all that when the Kardashians are doing whatever the hell it is we care so much about and our favorite sport team is kicking ass!

I'm not saying 'entertainment' is bad, just that we need to get our shit together and pay attention.
Interesting.

I'm glad you raised the point about being charitable etc. Defining what that is and isn't, is important.
 

bluntmassa1

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because he thinks it is "polite and reasonable" to hang a sign that says "no blacks allowed".

also, he refuses to say that it should be illegal to have sex with 10 year olds. that speaks to his pedophilia though.
Do you have proof of both them allegations?

I damn sure haven't seen him say sex with a 10 year old is fine. Overall he seems like less of a douche bag than you Democunt Cunton lovers. But I ain't down with child fuckers just have not seen proof a bit like your tiny penis jokes.
 

Rob Roy

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As long as that p.o.s. obliterates our national debt, I'll forgive him for being an asshole. He's good at defaulting and bankruptcies so that's all I ask.
How can a debt other people accumulated without your explicit consent be something that is yours to repay?

Can I do that ? Can you do that ? ... accumulate a debt on another persons behalf even if they would prefer you didn't?

Sounds slavish to have your labor pledged by other people for debts they've accumulated.
 

Rob Roy

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Do you have proof of both them allegations?

I damn sure haven't seen him say sex with a 10 year old is fine. Overall he seems like less of a douche bag than you Democunt Cunton lovers. But I ain't down with child fuckers just have not seen proof a bit like your tiny penis jokes.
I appreciate that you believe my douche baggery pales in comparison to Uncle Buck. Thanks...I think.
 

bluntmassa1

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How can a debt other people accumulated without your explicit consent be something that is yours to repay?

Can I do that ? Can you do that ? ... accumulate a debt on another persons behalf even if they would prefer you didn't?

Sounds slavish to have your labor pledged by other people for debts they've accumulated.
For real if given a vote for my country to loan money I would vote no every single time unless maybe something like Katrina and we could not afford it.

WW2 I would have as well just because Japan attacked us.

Pretty much why I don't care about the nations debt what are they going to do? Kill me and take my land? They need my 5k a year in property tax for that which is bullshit cause most states I'd be paying 2k or so but they tax the shit out of you in other states for everything else.
 

NLXSK1

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It seems like you are now referring to a different circumstance than the one Uncle Buck and I were politely discussing and have posed a hypothetical situation / question for me?

Nature, by your existence has endowed you with a property right in your physical self. Would you agree?
No actually, I would not. All the parts of you are made up of materials that have been recycled for millions of years.

If a crocodile bites off and eats your arm, is it still your arm?

When you eat a hamburger, where is the property right of the cow it came from?

You live in this clinical world, protected by the very people you call masters and if so, so be it. Your rights are granted and recognized by society, not by nature. Without society you have no rights even to your own physical body.
 

Rob Roy

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No actually, I would not. All the parts of you are made up of materials that have been recycled for millions of years.

If a crocodile bites off and eats your arm, is it still your arm?

When you eat a hamburger, where is the property right of the cow it came from?

You live in this clinical world, protected by the very people you call masters and if so, so be it. Your rights are granted and recognized by society, not by nature. Without society you have no rights even to your own physical body.

Good advice. Next time I wrestle a crocodile, I'll poke that fuckers eyes out before he gets my arm.

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UncleBuck

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I'm pretty sure you did not have the wherewithal to consent to sex at the age of 10
i'm 100% sure that no 10 year old can consent to sex.

the fact that you think some can is beyond creepy. it is the definition of pedophilia.
 

Rob Roy

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i'm 100% sure that no 10 year old can consent to sex you sick fuck.

the fact that you think some can is beyond creepy. it is the definition of pedophilia.
Do you still beat your wife?

If you believe nonconsensual interactions are wrong, then why do you champion a government which arises from the use of coercion, a tactic which abuses consent ?

You seem unable to address that question. Does it mean you are a hypocrite, ignorant or both ?
 

UncleBuck

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Do you still beat your wife?

If you believe nonconsensual interactions are wrong, then why do you champion a government which arises from the use of coercion, a tactic which abuses consent ?

You seem unable to address that question. Does it mean you are a hypocrite, ignorant or both ?
why are you trying to compare your love of pedophilia to the government?

they are nothing alike.

one is an institution that keeps order, the other is a sick depraved act which you refuse to even condemn.
 

Rob Roy

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why are you trying to compare your love of pedophilia to the government?

they are nothing alike.

one is an institution that keeps order, the other is a sick depraved act which you refuse to even condemn.

Did you stay up all night thinking of that one or did it just pop into your head ?
 
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