update on my first mushroom grow

Uzzi

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The fact that you said cold shock tells me you're with the people who put trash bags around their colonizing jars to let light out because they think it induces pinning.

Cubensis is a tropical species and does not benefit from a cold shock. Where does that happen in nature?
Not trying to argue if a cold shock induces pinning or not because I don't know but....

Cubs grow where I live and it is far from tropical here. The season for them here is also right on the fringe of when we start to get cold nights...
 

taGyo

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Not trying to argue if a cold shock induces pinning or not because I don't know but....

Cubs grow where I live and it is far from tropical here. The season for them here is also right on the fringe of when we start to get cold nights...
Do they grow as big as they do indoors?
Because they don't because its not optimal. They're trying to extend their life cycle.

Do you by chance flush your plants?
 

taGyo

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Good point :)

Survival is a different aspect though. I can put some cakes on top of my fridge and probably see mushrooms eventually. Doesn't mean it's optimal.
 

canndo

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Well I'm not even going to get into why all of the lighting stuff is wrong.

Air movement creates RH. Humidity is evaporation from the substrate, O2 lifts it into the air and creates RH.

The fact that you said cold shock tells me you're with the people who put trash bags around their colonizing jars to let light out because they think it induces pinning.

Cubensis is a tropical species and does not benefit from a cold shock. Where does that happen in nature?

Mushrooms grow in the shade, I did a test that showed they preferred indirect light to direct. If you grow mushrooms under a light they tend to bend over and make sure their caps are facing said light, almost like a buffer. No doubt mushrooms USE LIGHT, that's not what I'm debating, but we still don't know for what.

I would enjoy it if you did.

I put nothing around jars at all.

Note, I said ORCHESTRATION.

The combination of all triggers.

Note also that I gave you specific portions of light and time. These tend to correspond to the shade, PR more properly dappled light through leaves.

Finally, humidity may or may not eminate from substrate.

While oxygen plays a part. It is only a portion of a gas mixture, water vapor being another.

One can reduce evaporation from the substrate to very low levels and still achieve primordia.
 

taGyo

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Please,

Go on the shroomery.org and make an account and talk about what you're saying and get up to date.

Grow shrooms in the dark and see what happens. I bet you still get primordia, and plenty of it, with proper air flow and humidity.

I don't want to make myself seem like a bigger ass then I already am.

:smile:
 

rory420420

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They are.

You're right. Gas Exchange is more for colonization, Fresh-Air Exchange is for fruiting, surface evap causes humidity. In the wild mushrooms tend to pop after a fresh rain.

@canndo Go to the http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ and tell them what you said and see how quickly you get corrected by guys who do this for a living.
:lol:Double over with laughter in the 3rd degree....
@canndo .carry on gentlemen.as you were...
DING! POPCORN!!:grin::joint::joint::joint::weed:
 

taGyo

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Alright so I had a change of heart last night and I edited this to be less rude:

What is that Golden Teacher, B+?

I gave my boy a jar of my GT and he pulled 8 oz his first grow.

They also look like Cambos, but then again all cubensis look the same typically. That would be a bit harder to pull off then say, APE or PE.
I run mini-tubs so I can have multiple strains going so I case but this is what my friend did with my GT genetics uncased:

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That corner was where he plucked a few early. When you feen, pick what you need.
He had two CFLs on a shitty schedule because he would turn them on and off when he remembered and his tub wasn't dialed in right. I ran a single tub of GT and wasn't blown away by the potency (Nice beginner trip but nothing for a vet) so I cloned one on agar and kept it around. My friend said he wanted to get into it so I colonized a jar for him and let him do some Grain-To-Grain transfers. I don't know how many he ended up putting in there but we both use oat spawn.

The beautiful thing about mushrooms is mycelium is extremely hardy. We can do very little but provide an adequate environment but how much it fruits is already in it's DNA.

I'm not going to argue with you anymore, life is too short ;). I'd just suggest popping over to the shroomery and getting the latest updates from some guys creating strains and whatnot.
 
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