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m4s73r

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Glad to hear it! I have dumbed my hempy setup. Adding another 600 to the bloom room, and redoing all my lighting for veg. I really want to veg with barebulbs. I dont know, still working that out i guess.
 

m4s73r

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Well then take me to school sir. I have 8 20 gallon pots. 2 rows of 4. Im needing them to get to 28ish inches before flip.
Would i just drop down 2 lights
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Something like this?
 

ttystikk

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Well then take me to school sir. I have 8 20 gallon pots. 2 rows of 4. Im needing them to get to 28ish inches before flip.
Would i just drop down 2 lights
X X X X
0 0
X X X X

Something like this?
If you're looking for height, light from the top. If you're looking for thickness then light from the middle. I'm not sure what your goals are?
 

ttystikk

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Goals = as much quality herb I can produce without my place of residence resembling a marijuana plant. Not volume, just quality. Ha sorry
You're gonna do fine with a donut; hang the bulb in the middle and arrange all your plants in a circle around it. Done!

It's only the secret underground laboratory that resembles a pot forest... lol I'm recreating a lil Vietnam down there, just in time for winter! Who can blame me? Now, how to get some of that food delivered?!
 

m4s73r

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Yeah thicker i suppose. Final bloom height around 5 ft i suppose. Ive always done from the top with t5s. More plants smaller pots/shorter. Moving to fewer bigger plants. Im not for sure yet. Ive done single 600 for so long. i got that down to science. Adding a second 600 and growing fewer bigger, it will be interesting to see how it comes out.

Im considering a couple of led lights for veg to save on my electric bill. However if not ill be doing a couple of 400s. Ill dim them as clones till they get big enough to need the full amount of light.
 

pop22

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Great thread!

Been following along and doing a lot of other reading. I want to do vertical for sure. however, I have a big investment ( for my budget ), in LED lights. And I really don't want to go back to HPS/MH. I've ordered some Cree CXA 3070 chips to build my first DIY led. So my dilemma is, to do three flats screens against the walls of the tent, ( 4'x4'x6.5' ), or try to build a light that would give similar coverage for a tower style screen. My thoughts on a DIY light for that style would be to build an octagonal frame and bolt the heatsinks to it, possibly make it rotate on center. I'm sure, given the right LEDs, driven to a high enough level, could equal the performance of HPS.

I may well start with a single flat screen and test my light, then grow from there.
 

ttystikk

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Great thread!

Been following along and doing a lot of other reading. I want to do vertical for sure. however, I have a big investment ( for my budget ), in LED lights. And I really don't want to go back to HPS/MH. I've ordered some Cree CXA 3070 chips to build my first DIY led. So my dilemma is, to do three flats screens against the walls of the tent, ( 4'x4'x6.5' ), or try to build a light that would give similar coverage for a tower style screen. My thoughts on a DIY light for that style would be to build an octagonal frame and bolt the heatsinks to it, possibly make it rotate on center. I'm sure, given the right LEDs, driven to a high enough level, could equal the performance of HPS.

I may well start with a single flat screen and test my light, then grow from there.
Thank you!

The problem with those options is that they all sound well worth pursuing!

I'd design the system around twice as many COBs so you can get the higher efficiency. That's about the only way to beat the heat monster you're building in the middle of your tent.

I haven't tested it yet, but I made the design choice NOT to reduce wattage when converting to COB LED. I did this for two reasons; one, my current 30W/ft² of 860W CDM on magnetic ballast is only barely adequate- even if I am pulling pounders, I should be getting twice the yield per square foot. Two, I wanted a no bullshit 'keep EVERYTHING else equal except the actual light source' head to head comparison of high quality HPS vs COB LED. Now if(!) yields change, there won't be any need for compensating calculations needed and I can directly compare lighting vs results.
 
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Vnsmkr

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You're gonna do fine with a donut; hang the bulb in the middle and arrange all your plants in a circle around it. Done!

It's only the secret underground laboratory that resembles a pot forest... lol I'm recreating a lil Vietnam down there, just in time for winter! Who can blame me? Now, how to get some of that food delivered?!
In a 4x8 would you do one light or two dropped down? I always assumed two...
 

Cl@rksville

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Thank you!

The problem with those options is that they all sound well worth pursuing!

I'd design the system around twice as many COBs so you can get the higher efficiency. That's about the only way to beat the heat monster you're building in the middle of your tent.

I haven't tested it yet, but I made the design choice NOT to reduce wastage when chimeric to COB LED. I did this for two reasons; one, my current 30W/ft² of 860W CDM on magnetic ballast it's only barely adequate- even if I am pulling pounders, I should be getting twice the yield per square foot. Two, I wanted a no bullshit keep everything else equal except the actual light source head to head comparison of high quality HPS vs COB LED. Now if(!) yields change, there won't be any need for compensating calculations needed and I can directly compare lighting vs results.
ey up tty. are you getting a pound per sqm using this method or more? I am setting up my first vert grow in the next few weeks, just vegging the stock at the moment... got some ideas but then just think :finger::wall:o_O>:(...:bigjoint:
 
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