trying to kill a 4x4 tent, 2lbs is it possible?
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mr sunshine
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I hate tents they are always 10 to 15 degrees hotter then the room they are in...
skunkd0c
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if its all about yield, then finding the right strain/pheno is important
you want something that will make long colas quickly, a good sativa dom
can finish in 8 weeks. the right pheno of blue cheese or something like that
these plants have a very large stretch so virtually no veg time is needed
you can grow clones with no veg time that will still yield 2-5 oz each in 8 weeks total grow time
growing more smaller plants is always going to win out against larger plants imo all of the time spent in veg is wasted time
but you still want plants that get to 3ft tall or maybe more, as with no veg time you will end up with 1 oz plants if they do not have a good stretch and a great deal of wasted vertical height
its not an easy task to get 2lb in that space but not impossible
20 to 25 oz would not be so difficult, you will need to pack colas in very tightly
you do not need 2k of light, that will just cause too much heat, 2x600 would be better or even 1x 1000
2kw over the canopy would be a waste, spread the light out around the whole space, this lets the plants
grow out in more directions, plants can make colas on every branch of the plant if the genetics allow it
and light is all round them on every side
peace
you want something that will make long colas quickly, a good sativa dom
can finish in 8 weeks. the right pheno of blue cheese or something like that
these plants have a very large stretch so virtually no veg time is needed
you can grow clones with no veg time that will still yield 2-5 oz each in 8 weeks total grow time
growing more smaller plants is always going to win out against larger plants imo all of the time spent in veg is wasted time
but you still want plants that get to 3ft tall or maybe more, as with no veg time you will end up with 1 oz plants if they do not have a good stretch and a great deal of wasted vertical height
its not an easy task to get 2lb in that space but not impossible
20 to 25 oz would not be so difficult, you will need to pack colas in very tightly
you do not need 2k of light, that will just cause too much heat, 2x600 would be better or even 1x 1000
2kw over the canopy would be a waste, spread the light out around the whole space, this lets the plants
grow out in more directions, plants can make colas on every branch of the plant if the genetics allow it
and light is all round them on every side
peace
ODanksta
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Genetics is extremely important I definitely agree there. I was going to do 2x1K tuned down to 50% for a 4x4 but I changed my mind, I'm doing 3K for a 4x8.
drekoushranada
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That's exactly what I do now these days.
drekoushranada
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I'm using the other side of my 4x8 tent for a bare bulb 600w DTW Coco grow. Lol
Sativied
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That's overkill. 2x1K watters for 4x8 is already more than enough to pull the max possible yield from that space. I would go for 2x 750w gavita DE. Between the boost and dim features it will suit your space perfectly. 3K on 4x8 will likely even get you less than with 2K.
I'd go for either 36 or 49 colas per 4x4 (either through sogging that many plants or by topping and/or cropping less plants).
That's it right there. Only so many buds/colas can be put next to each other, for max yields it's the length of the colas that matter, how deep they go in the canopy. Sativa doms that require little veg time, yet stretch and fill in, is a major contributor to high yields. Amnesia haze grows like that too. Did that Kush x Cheese finish in 8 weeks?
skunkd0c
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yes mate, total growing time under hids was around 90 daysThat's overkill. 2x1K watters for 4x8 is already more than enough to pull the max possible yield from that space. I would go for 2x 750w gavita DE. Between the boost and dim features it will suit your space perfectly. 3K on 4x8 will likely even get you less than with 2K.
I'd go for either 36 or 49 colas per 4x4 (either through sogging that many plants or by topping and/or cropping less plants).
That's it right there. Only so many buds/colas can be put next to each other, for max yields it's the length of the colas that matter, how deep they go in the canopy. Sativa doms that require little veg time, yet stretch and fill in, is a major contributor to high yields. Amnesia haze grows like that too. Did that Kush x Cheese finish in 8 weeks?
5 weeks veg 53 days flower
when it was a seed i gave it 3 weeks veg and 60 days flower
out of all the females on that run it was the fastest and best plant
it is slightly more mature this time round, the colas have a little more swollen calyx that are stacking more than the seed run, only giving it 3 weeks veg on the seed run delayed flower until like 3 weeks 12/12
it was a 6 inch or so clone that had been sitting under a 125w cfl before hand
i took this clone at roughtly 3-4 weeks flower, so it was slightly in the re-juv stage
but not fully, it didnt really grow any distorted leaves, but it might of helped it get a little bigger
if it had been a full rejuv it would of got bigger i am sure, those plants grow wild
it should yield around 20-25 oz, ill know in a week or so when its dry
i found that even to get 500g per m2
which many of the seed companies say their strains can do, like its easy lol
you need colas all to be lined up neatly making every use of the space
the colas need to be so close they are about 1-2 inch apart
powdery mildew is always a risk when they are this close
got to force a lot of air through them too without flapping them around strong extraction needed
this strain is always one i wanted to give a run for the yield, there are many like it
mostly skunk/haze crosses etc , i ran their jamican grape and it was ok
Secret Valley Seeds - Top Dollar
Our special skunk strain that has been a hit here in BC for years is now available. The skunky stench that comes from these is unbelievable. The consumers always choose this strain when given a choice, it smells so dank and packs a big punch. Developed for sea of green method whether growing in soil or hydro. Very few days to veg before flipping to flowering (4 days veg), clone plant stretches 12-16inches in first 2 weeks with many tight bud sights in between.
peace
MustangStudFarm
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I wish that I didnt buy tents because I eventually built a room! i have three tents in storage! Just a thought. You know, in case you think that you will ever expand, just skip the tent and buy lumber. I guess that you cant build if you are renting.?
skunkd0c
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what he said ^^ unless its a huge tent i guess
small tents also restrict growth, all the branches that grow up against the walls of the tent suffer
light penetration is affected once the canopy develops , air flow restricted, unless you have cool tubes lots of fans etc tents are pretty much a slow cooker or oven on gas mark 3
the volume of air inside a little tent is cooked up so quickly by hids, is a hard battle to win
i think it can be done with two fans one pushing cold air through the lights, and another fan extracting any excess heat above the canopy you could keep it around the same temp as the room its in
peace
ODanksta
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I usually blow out houses, this is for my girl to help her with her rent and she has seizures so she goes through a lot of concentrates.
And I'm taking a break
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ODanksta
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Well I own 16 or 17 something hid lights most are 1K's, I also own 5- 8" inline and 4-6" fans. And I have 14k portable AC. But I was planning on running co2. I also own a 2 burner and a 4 burner
MustangStudFarm
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i see, you just never used a tent. I could never really keep CO2 in mine.. minor problems really.
MustangStudFarm
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propane burners in tex?
hells canyon genetics
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I consistently yeald 1.5 lbs in a 4x4 tent with a 600w hortilux blue MH 16 of the hydropharm 12x12 white square pots custom mixed organic soil pinch the tops let the plants fill out the 12x12 square and flower them out im not even useing a so called heavy yelding strain
Iriemedicine
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I have a 600w system I picked up through a trade with a friend. It included a 600w dual spectrum/dimmable ballast and daystar 6" ac bulb. Would I have any problems keeping a 3x3 tent cool if I am running an AC hood and exhausting the hot air from the tent (provided I run a fan with a proper CFM for the space)? The tent will be located in a basement where ambient temps stay between 70-75 year round.
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RockinDaGanja
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I dont know if anyone mentioned vertical growing. But ive pulled some nice yields from a 4x4 going vert. With good genetics.
ODanksta
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Yeah probably not the best idea but it worked.. And yeah I use to manage a grow shop, I had a 8x8 tent with 2K in grew a bunch of cucumbers on a trellis with a GH waterfarm, and heat was always a issue. We even water cooled the lights with a 1/2 HP water chiller and it still wouldn't keep it cool, the only way I could use it was with the doors wide open, lol..
But that was summer, and winter is coming shortly and fortunately I have more equipment to play with at home then the shop had/has. I just use the heat to warm her apartment in the winter..