trying to kill a 4x4 tent, 2lbs is it possible?

ODanksta

ODanksta

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RockinDaGanja said:
I dont know if anyone mentioned vertical growing. But ive pulled some nice yields from a 4x4 going vert. With good genetics.
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I seriously thought about doing vertical, but I'd need a mini-split to run barebulb in my state.

And not trying to buy a lot of new equipment, considering how much I already own. But shit if anyone can send me a link to someone that is running and killer a vert set-up in tent, I'd still consider it.
 
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incognegro999

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Iriemedicine said:
I have a 600w system I picked up through a trade with a friend. It included a 600w dual spectrum/dimmable ballast and daystar 6" ac bulb. Would I have any problems keeping a 3x3 tent cool if I am running an AC hood and exhausting the hot air from the tent (provided I run a fan with a proper CFM for the space)? The tent will be located in a basement where ambient temps stay between 70-75 year round.
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Hard to tell off hand without knowing the size of the basement. one of the questions is if the hot air inside your tent has had a chance to dissipate, spread out and cool down before being reheated. Also humidity can be a big factor in basements.

Also it's bad etiquette to post random questions inside a thread. I don't give a shit I'm just saying lol. You'll actually get an answer to your question as well. Good luck with the setup.
 
VTMi'kmaq

VTMi'kmaq

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ODanksta said:
This is for my girl. I'm about to buy a 4x4 tent for her. I have tons of equipment not being used. So I want to max the shit out of it.. I'm thinking using two 8" air cooled hoods and two 1K ballast tuned down to 50%, one hood rocking eye hortilux hps bulb and the other hood using a MH conversion bulb for dual spectrum. And using Co2 via dual propane burner.

What growing style do you think would be best? 9 dwc buckets, custom built 8" deep raised bed stuffed to the max or rockwool stuffed to the max. SOG style.
I know scrog is great but wanting to yield as much as quickly as possible.

Heat will be a real issue but I have tons of inline fans so hopefully I can rig something up to a portable AC without it actually being inside of the tent.

My logic is by running two hoods instead of one. Is maybe I can keep them it closer to the canopy with a lower heat intensity and plus the dual spectrum, I could care less about the bulb life so with that being said tell me what you think..
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I'll say this once, in a tent that size, i'd go two cooltubes, i prefer 600's but hey if you like 1000's have at it brah. both hps/mh at the same time throughout the ENTIRE grow cycle. eye hortilux hps/and mh.
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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skunkd0c said:
what he said ^^ unless its a huge tent i guess

small tents also restrict growth, all the branches that grow up against the walls of the tent suffer
light penetration is affected once the canopy develops , air flow restricted, unless you have cool tubes lots of fans etc tents are pretty much a slow cooker or oven on gas mark 3
the volume of air inside a little tent is cooked up so quickly by hids, is a hard battle to win
i think it can be done with two fans one pushing cold air through the lights, and another fan extracting any excess heat above the canopy you could keep it around the same temp as the room its in

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Nahhhh, it just takes some MacGyver like ingenuity. I've got a 600 watt stuffed into my 2x4x5.5 and I can get that sucker below 70 with the ballast on full. The trick is airflow. I run one 6inch centrifugal fan that sucks air from the top of my tent, through my cooltube, and exhausted into the intake of an airconditioner. All of the tents passive intakes were sealed and I ran one passive 6inch line to the window ac and have it intaking what the ac blows out. My centrifugal fan is 530cfm dialed down to about 20%, I tried using a 4inch 190cfm but the diameter of the ducting was too restrictive. My ducting also has minimal bends/turns as well as straight ducting over flex pipe.
I just pulled almost a half pound from 9 little plants in it so tents can be pretty dang useful! (=
 
Iriemedicine

Iriemedicine

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incognegro999 said:
Also it's bad etiquette to post random questions inside a thread. I don't give a shit I'm just saying lol. You'll actually get an answer to your question as well. Good luck with the setup.
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Thankyou for the advice. I saw this thread was about tents and thought I would ask instead of starting a brand new thread to ask one question. I apologize to the OP.
 
MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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ODanksta said:
Yeah probably not the best idea but it worked.. And yeah I use to manage a grow shop, I had a 8x8 tent with 2K in grew a bunch of cucumbers on a trellis with a GH waterfarm, and heat was always a issue. We even water cooled the lights with a 1/2 HP water chiller and it still wouldn't keep it cool, the only way I could use it was with the doors wide open, lol..

But that was summer, and winter is coming shortly and fortunately I have more equipment to play with at home then the shop had/has. I just use the heat to warm her apartment in the winter..
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Yes! Winter will be a good season! I have a fireplace to to warm the house, so all of my electric is going to the girls.
 
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resinousflowers420

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less plants in a tent is better than more plants.4 plants per 4x4 maximum.this allows the plants to spread out and open up,which allows much better air flow and light penetration,plus you will get bigger and better quality lower bud.so for example, if the strain doubles in height in flower,then dont let your plants exceed 2 feet in veg.try to keep the height of your plants to no more than 4 feet.especially if using a 1000 watter air cooled in that space,because the air hood takes up about a foot of height and you want the light to be atleast a foot above your plants,otherwise you can burn the colas and get bleaching.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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ODanksta said:
This is for my girl. I'm about to buy a 4x4 tent for her. I have tons of equipment not being used. So I want to max the shit out of it.. I'm thinking using two 8" air cooled hoods and two 1K ballast tuned down to 50%, one hood rocking eye hortilux hps bulb and the other hood using a MH conversion bulb for dual spectrum. And using Co2 via dual propane burner.

What growing style do you think would be best? 9 dwc buckets, custom built 8" deep raised bed stuffed to the max or rockwool stuffed to the max. SOG style.
I know scrog is great but wanting to yield as much as quickly as possible.

Heat will be a real issue but I have tons of inline fans so hopefully I can rig something up to a portable AC without it actually being inside of the tent.

My logic is by running two hoods instead of one. Is maybe I can keep them it closer to the canopy with a lower heat intensity and plus the dual spectrum, I could care less about the bulb life so with that being said tell me what you think..
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No no no Noooooo! NEVER DIM HID! EVER! THIS GOES TRIPLE FOR MH! Fastest way to Fuck up a metal halide bulb is to run it under its rated output.

Run both lamps at full 100%. Run two MH, lose the HPS. Sealed and vented for both, obv. Keep the tent around 80 for air temp, cycle it thru quick. If the room the tent is sitting in is sealed, go for a bottle of CO², lol. Try to keep your RH ABOVE 60%, I know it sounds weird but the plants can use higher RH to help deal with the effects of intense lighting. Four plants in a ScrOG would be my choice.
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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@ttystikk I have a stock pile of bulbs, so not to worried about bulbs life. But yeah you are right on MH. I don't know if that applies for the conversion bulbs, but it probably does. But I'm going to do a 4x8 with 2k and run SOG. Square pots as many as possible. Looking for plants to finish at 2'. I just needed a high turn over rate. Don't want to waste time vegging.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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ODanksta said:
@ttystikk I have a stock pile of bulbs, so not to worried about bulbs life. But yeah you are right on MH. I don't know if that applies for the conversion bulbs, but it probably does. But I'm going to do a 4x8 with 2k and run SOG. Square pots as many as possible. Looking for plants to finish at 2'. I just needed a high turn over rate. Don't want to waste time vegging.
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Sounds like my kind of run :)
 
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