TRUMP INDICTED

cannabineer

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Trump isn't playing 3-dimensional chess, he's eating the pieces and drooling.
I imagine one purpose of the brief is to limit Loose’s options for bad jurisprudence. Another probably is to provide a clean paper trail for expected appeals and to document the obstructive crap that man’s increasingly-desperate defense team is flinging into the works.

Once the case has run its course, the document might be useful in getting the Cannon … fired.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Being disqualified and kicked back to Chutkan would be the end of Donald, she wouldn't even let him mount a write in candidacy or even speak on politics in public or attack the legitimate GOP nominee who replaced him or even as the GOP nominee, he has no place in politics even before criminal conviction. If he is disqualified and the stay is lifted, Chutkan will be in control of him until trial and conviction and she will impose new conditions of release if he is disqualified. Donald could be quickly muzzled by the courts once disqualified and if he is the GOP nominee they are fucked, even if he has not been convicted.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'Freak out stage': Weissmann and Katyal sound off on Trump immunity delay

The Law Firm, Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal, join Jen Psaki to discuss Judge Chutkan delaying Donald Trump's federal election trial pending immunity appeal and the impacts of a slow-moving federal appeals court.
 

BudmanTX

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so J6 trial possible July.......


come on immunity judges lets get this thing done.....
 

Observe & Report

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So, how disappointing is it that Fani Willis appointed a special prosecutor with nearly no prosecution experience who also just happens to be her boyfriend?

I didn't see much about this on the previous pages of the thread...
 

Nugnewbie

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So, how disappointing is it that Fani Willis appointed a special prosecutor with nearly no prosecution experience who also just happens to be her boyfriend?

I didn't see much about this on the previous pages of the thread...
Quite disappointing. It seems her version of the story, and the ones who pointed it out are a bit different. Guess we'll see what happens on February 15th when there is supposed to be a hearing on the matter.
 

BudmanTX

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So, how disappointing is it that Fani Willis appointed a special prosecutor with nearly no prosecution experience who also just happens to be her boyfriend?

I didn't see much about this on the previous pages of the thread...
from what i've read it's still in limbo, maga side is trying to get her disqualified to save they own ass, while Fani is saying there is no conflict of interest....

 

Observe & Report

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from what i've read it's still in limbo, maga side is trying to get her disqualified to save they own ass, while Fani is saying there is no conflict of interest....

thanks for the link, very informative
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So, how disappointing is it that Fani Willis appointed a special prosecutor with nearly no prosecution experience who also just happens to be her boyfriend?

I didn't see much about this on the previous pages of the thread...
So what, you think she would blow the most important case of her career over an office romance? This shit happens every day in the legal system, the only reason we hear or care about it is Trump. It is nothing and has no bearing on the case in court, Donald will go down, it's just a matter of when, and if he will be broke when he hits the bottom with a criminal conviction before the election. The later the call by the SCOTUS or now the appeals court, the more it will hurt the GOP and reduce their options.
 

Observe & Report

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This link I found inside the above one was what I was after, the discussion of how the possible violations of Georgia law don't impact the defendants rights to a fair trial so it won't really help them. https://www.justsecurity.org/91368/why-fani-willis-is-not-disqualified-under-georgia-law/
 

Observe & Report

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Donald will go down, it's just a matter of when, and if he will be broke when he hits the bottom with a criminal conviction before the election.
Don't be so sure! It only takes one Magatroid on the jury to hang it. Beyond reasonable doubt is also a much higher bar than preponderance of evidence, so a lot more room for a stealth juror to say they aren't convinced.

Also, I really don't think there are many people still willing to vote for Trump who are waiting for a criminal conviction to vote for anyone else. Orange Dog Republicans and all. My bad, the dog is Ted Cruz's wife and he's still endorsing him. Do you think she will vote for Trump? She probably will vote Biden and lie about it to hubby-dub. So sad, the once "Grand" Old Party.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Don't be so sure! It only takes one Magatroid on the jury to hang it. Beyond reasonable doubt is also a much higher bar than preponderance of evidence, so a lot more room for a stealth juror to say they aren't convinced.

Also, I really don't think there are many people still willing to vote for Trump who are waiting for a criminal conviction to vote for anyone else. Orange Dog Republicans and all. My bad, the dog is Ted Cruz's wife and he's still endorsing him. Do you think she will vote for Trump? She probably will vote Biden and lie about it to hubby-dub. So sad, the once "Grand" Old Party.
I think Joe is doing an amazing job with the economy and industrial policy, the move to green is about more than climate change, it is now about money and power, reports have come out that say most countries can do it with wind and solar and they are the cheapest form of energy generation. It is now about economics, energy security and independence from poor countries to rich and competition with China, the one who are really "taking over" on the global stage. America can't afford Trump or dumb ass republicans and no longer has the luxury of hating on other Americans for no real reason, China is getting ahead in solar, EVs and batteries.
 

printer

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Appeals court denies Trump immunity in DC election case
Former President Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity from prosecution on criminal charges related to his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, a federal appeals court unanimously ruled Tuesday.

“We have balanced former President Trump’s asserted interests in executive immunity against the vital public interests that favor allowing this prosecution to proceed,” the three-judge panel wrote in the 57-page opinion.

“We conclude that ‘[c]oncerns of public policy, especially as illuminated by our history and the structure of our government’ compel the rejection of his claim of immunity in this case,” the panel wrote as it upheld a trial judge’s ruling on the issue.

Trump is expected to quickly ask the Supreme Court to overturn the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

In its ruling, the appeals panel rejected three separate immunity arguments Trump’s lawyers made “both as a categorical defense to federal criminal prosecutions of former Presidents and as applied to this case in particular.”

“For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant,” the panel wrote.

“But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution.”

The legal battle over Trump’s immunity claim stems from the criminal election interference case being prosecuted by special counsel Jack Smith in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

Trump is charged in the case with four counts of crimes including conspiracy to defraud the United States and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. He has pleaded not guilty.

Defense lawyers, seeking to dismiss the case, had argued to Judge Tanya Chutkan that Trump has “absolute immunity” from prosecution because the charges relate to official acts performed while he was president.

After Chutkan declined to dismiss the charges, Trump’s attorneys brought the immunity argument to the appeals court. That move put the case on hold in Chutkan’s court.

Smith, seeking to avoid a drawn-out legal dispute that could delay Trump’s trial, beseeched the Supreme Court to quickly take up the dispute. The high court declined to do so, putting the matter back into the appeals court’s hands.

The immunity battle has already taken a toll on the timeline of the case: While waiting for the appeals court’s ruling, Chutkan vacated the trial date previously scheduled for March 4.

Smith alleges Trump, using false election fraud claims as a pretext, tried to reverse President Joe Biden’s victory through multiple criminal conspiracies. Those allegedly include organizing slates of illegitimate pro-Trump electors in states Biden won, trying to use the Justice Department to conduct “sham” election crime investigations, and challenging the count of legitimate electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021.

Trump has called the case a “witch hunt” and claimed that it is intended to harm his 2024 presidential campaign.

Now we just need the SC to decline Trump's petition. "My judges."
 

BudmanTX

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