DIY-HP-LED
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Let's talk about Trump, NY, and his day getting worse....
TRUMP INDICTED
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Let's talk about Trump, NY, and his day getting worse....
cannabineer
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Mr. Weaselberg’s entire testimony is now prejudiced, and the judge might deem it inadmissible.
DIY-HP-LED
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His bean counter could get a deal or go down with Donald when the criminal indictments come over this shit, his perjury makes him less valuable. He will likely die in prison or on his way. He was Donald's cock and brain, Donald or his kids don't understand a lot of this shit, da weasel set it all up for them.Mr. Weaselberg’s entire testimony is now prejudiced, and the judge might deem it inadmissible.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Hell even my tetanus shot is only good for ten years.
compassionateExotic
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Fogdog
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Since when has Trump ever been respectful? Then again, he didn't say it his lawyer did. That lawyer also said that Trump's conspiracy WAS an official act and didn't choke on the words. Demonstrating oral skills that make porn stars look like amateurs.That's a lie, he disagrees, but not respectfully!
Trump campaign says he ‘respectfully disagrees’ with immunity ruling, will appeal
Former President Trump will appeal a court ruling that he is not immune from criminal prosecution, his campaign said Tuesday, setting up a likely fight at the Supreme Court. “Prosecuting a Pr…thehill.com
They talked as if Trump's conspiracy did not use backdoor lawyers who kept the front door lawyers in the dark (because they would openly oppose it to protect their client instead of aiding and abetting a crime). Those backdoor lawyers left a trail of evidence that took them everywhere from a parking garage where Proud Boys leader Tarrio met with Oath Keeper's leader Stewart Rhodes and to 60 courtrooms across the country were they admitted they didn't have evidence to support their claims thereby stripping Trump of any real pretense that he didn't know he lost.
The trial is going to be epic. For those who were alive when Watergate went down, this is going to eclipse even that. A president is going to be convicted of conspiracy to overthrow the election that lost him his second term. The judges practically said "we see you" when they called him Citizen Trump and flat out told them that attempting to disenfranchise voters cannot be called an official act. The way is clear. SCOTUS won't touch this case. It's a clown show that's about to end. Sometime before the end of August. It will end with Trump's conviction. What a thing to be able to say.
After watching Trump seemingly do what he bragged about, that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and front of a crowd of witnesses and get away with it. After so much water under the bridge that it seemed we might never see justice. The trials are nigh that will lead to Trump finally being held accountable for his crimes. It will be epic.
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Hugo Phurst
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Even better Judge Engoron can "draw every negative inference" and increase penalties
printer
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"Better get this out there, if Trump is guilty we may be."
Gaetz, Stefanik offer resolution declaring Trump ‘did not engage in insurrection’
Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) unveiled a resolution Tuesday that declares former President Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”
The resolution — which spans one page and has more than 60 GOP co-sponsors — comes as groups across the country try to disqualify Trump from appearing on their 2024 presidential election ballots on claims that he engaged in an insurrection during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
The efforts point to language in the 14th Amendment that bars from office those that have engaged in an insurrection.
In December, the Colorado Supreme Court knocked Trump off the state’s Republican Party ballot, a decision that will come before the Supreme Court on Thursday. Gaetz referenced it Tuesday during a press conference surrounded by more than 10 co-sponsors.
“We are here today to authoritatively express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection, and we believe Congress has a unique role in making that declaration,” Gaetz said. “It’s not the job of the states and especially not the job of some bureaucrats in Colorado to make this assessment and interfere with the right of voters to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice.”
“As President Donald Trump continues to dominate in the polls, extreme Democrats will stop at nothing in attempt to prevent President Donald Trump from returning to the White House,” Stefanik said.
The resolution, which is nonbinding, would declare that it is “the sense of the House of Representatives” that Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or give aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
In addition to Colorado, Trump has been disqualified from the ballot in Maine. That decision, however, has been suspended pending the high court’s decision.
Trump’s candidacy has been challenged in at least 35 states, according to The New York Times.
Gaetz said he thinks approving the resolution would be “incredibly helpful legally.”
“If we’re the purported victim, in Congress, and we’re saying this was not an insurrection, I think that will hold a great deal of weight,” he added.
Gaetz said he has not received any assurances from Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) or GOP leadership that they will bring the resolution to the floor for a vote, but he alluded to the Louisiana Republican’s closeness to Trump.
“I sat next to him for seven years on the Judiciary Committee, though, so I’m pretty sure as to where he stands,” Gaetz said.
The Florida Republican also noted that he has spoken with Trump about the effort, who was “thrilled that so many members had signed on.”
It’s not entirely clear that the resolution would pass in the GOP-controlled House given their narrow majority, though the decision could be tough for some House Republicans as Trump seeks to win his party’s nomination again for 2024.
Just two of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump still serve in the House: Reps. Dan Newhouse (Wash.) and David Valadao (Calif.). The eight others either lost in their reelection bids or retired from the chamber.
thehill.com
Gaetz, Stefanik offer resolution declaring Trump ‘did not engage in insurrection’
Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) unveiled a resolution Tuesday that declares former President Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”
The resolution — which spans one page and has more than 60 GOP co-sponsors — comes as groups across the country try to disqualify Trump from appearing on their 2024 presidential election ballots on claims that he engaged in an insurrection during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
The efforts point to language in the 14th Amendment that bars from office those that have engaged in an insurrection.
In December, the Colorado Supreme Court knocked Trump off the state’s Republican Party ballot, a decision that will come before the Supreme Court on Thursday. Gaetz referenced it Tuesday during a press conference surrounded by more than 10 co-sponsors.
“We are here today to authoritatively express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection, and we believe Congress has a unique role in making that declaration,” Gaetz said. “It’s not the job of the states and especially not the job of some bureaucrats in Colorado to make this assessment and interfere with the right of voters to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice.”
“As President Donald Trump continues to dominate in the polls, extreme Democrats will stop at nothing in attempt to prevent President Donald Trump from returning to the White House,” Stefanik said.
The resolution, which is nonbinding, would declare that it is “the sense of the House of Representatives” that Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or give aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
In addition to Colorado, Trump has been disqualified from the ballot in Maine. That decision, however, has been suspended pending the high court’s decision.
Trump’s candidacy has been challenged in at least 35 states, according to The New York Times.
Gaetz said he thinks approving the resolution would be “incredibly helpful legally.”
“If we’re the purported victim, in Congress, and we’re saying this was not an insurrection, I think that will hold a great deal of weight,” he added.
Gaetz said he has not received any assurances from Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) or GOP leadership that they will bring the resolution to the floor for a vote, but he alluded to the Louisiana Republican’s closeness to Trump.
“I sat next to him for seven years on the Judiciary Committee, though, so I’m pretty sure as to where he stands,” Gaetz said.
The Florida Republican also noted that he has spoken with Trump about the effort, who was “thrilled that so many members had signed on.”
It’s not entirely clear that the resolution would pass in the GOP-controlled House given their narrow majority, though the decision could be tough for some House Republicans as Trump seeks to win his party’s nomination again for 2024.
Just two of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump still serve in the House: Reps. Dan Newhouse (Wash.) and David Valadao (Calif.). The eight others either lost in their reelection bids or retired from the chamber.
Gaetz, Stefanik offer resolution declaring Trump ‘did not engage in insurrection’
Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) unveiled a resolution Tuesday that declares former President Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.” The…
thehill.com
DIY-HP-LED
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Historic too and necessary
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Signing that resolution will simplify the job of the prosecution."Better get this out there, if Trump is guilty we may be."
Gaetz, Stefanik offer resolution declaring Trump ‘did not engage in insurrection’
Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) unveiled a resolution Tuesday that declares former President Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”
The resolution — which spans one page and has more than 60 GOP co-sponsors — comes as groups across the country try to disqualify Trump from appearing on their 2024 presidential election ballots on claims that he engaged in an insurrection during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
The efforts point to language in the 14th Amendment that bars from office those that have engaged in an insurrection.
In December, the Colorado Supreme Court knocked Trump off the state’s Republican Party ballot, a decision that will come before the Supreme Court on Thursday. Gaetz referenced it Tuesday during a press conference surrounded by more than 10 co-sponsors.
“We are here today to authoritatively express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection, and we believe Congress has a unique role in making that declaration,” Gaetz said. “It’s not the job of the states and especially not the job of some bureaucrats in Colorado to make this assessment and interfere with the right of voters to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice.”
“As President Donald Trump continues to dominate in the polls, extreme Democrats will stop at nothing in attempt to prevent President Donald Trump from returning to the White House,” Stefanik said.
The resolution, which is nonbinding, would declare that it is “the sense of the House of Representatives” that Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or give aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
In addition to Colorado, Trump has been disqualified from the ballot in Maine. That decision, however, has been suspended pending the high court’s decision.
Trump’s candidacy has been challenged in at least 35 states, according to The New York Times.
Gaetz said he thinks approving the resolution would be “incredibly helpful legally.”
“If we’re the purported victim, in Congress, and we’re saying this was not an insurrection, I think that will hold a great deal of weight,” he added.
Gaetz said he has not received any assurances from Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) or GOP leadership that they will bring the resolution to the floor for a vote, but he alluded to the Louisiana Republican’s closeness to Trump.
“I sat next to him for seven years on the Judiciary Committee, though, so I’m pretty sure as to where he stands,” Gaetz said.
The Florida Republican also noted that he has spoken with Trump about the effort, who was “thrilled that so many members had signed on.”
It’s not entirely clear that the resolution would pass in the GOP-controlled House given their narrow majority, though the decision could be tough for some House Republicans as Trump seeks to win his party’s nomination again for 2024.
Just two of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump still serve in the House: Reps. Dan Newhouse (Wash.) and David Valadao (Calif.). The eight others either lost in their reelection bids or retired from the chamber.
Gaetz, Stefanik offer resolution declaring Trump ‘did not engage in insurrection’
Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) unveiled a resolution Tuesday that declares former President Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.” The…
DIY-HP-LED
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It might be considered an action and not mere words of aid and comfort like so many spouted and are probably covered by the 1st amendment. However, where insurrection is involved, normal rights can be suspended and if one is declared the POTUS can start killing citizens and habeas corpus doesn't count either. Likewise, when the law deals with an insurrection, according to the constitution crimes like aid and comfort come into play, these are not mere laws, they are constitutional laws and supersede regular law. I doubt aid and comfort was ever tested in court to any degree and if Trump ends up disqualified for being an insurrectionist, then an insurrection happened as a matter of law. It might have implications further down the GOP food chain. I mean after the civil war (an insurrection) would they let a successionist party run in the south? Many people were banned from the ballot though and the democrats were a national party, in the north, too. Some who never fought were banned, they only spoke and took other quasilegal political actions too like signing papers...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’m counting on at least a dozen high-profile legislators to be firmly glued to this tarbaby. This was bigger than only P01135809. I will savor reading about them being called a ring, a word reserved for a criminal command structure.
Signing such a document … what could possibly go wrong! I smile just thinking about it.
Oh, and *secessionists
DIY-HP-LED
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Signing papers as a public official is what counts for insurrection and keeping them off the ballot, few were criminally prosecuted after the civil war, but many were excluded from the ballot, those who killed America troops and those who supported it. If Trump is disqualified, then it might have implications for some of the miscreants in congress and one way for the GOP to cleanse itself of the shit, but the shit stain would remain as would the smell. If those conservative justices want to help the GOP and bring it back, to the party they sprang from, then they would do well to get rid of some radical members of the GOP caucus over aid and comfort.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's not like aid and comfort is gonna be something that can be abused to any degree, first there has to be an insurrection and they are rare, we hope! So, cleaning out this batch of GOP assholes would not present a long-term issue, it could only be used if a president declared an insurrection backed by congress as it was happening, or by the courts in the aftermath of one that was put down early. So, if Trump is disqualified for insurrection, then legally an insurrection happened and after that, who knows if it will affect others or if they will isolate it to him. He had lots of help though, both from inside his administration and in congress, he did not act alone.
Trump now in support of Bud Light, lol. Gotta raise that stock he owns to help pay for legal bills.
DIY-HP-LED
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They don't need to spend a lot on ads, just buy Trump and he will brainwash the morons for them! Simple and cheap!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Spare us having to click on orangecesspool dot com.
Grandpapy
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"Real American company". Makes my head hurt.
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