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Discussion in 'Organics' started by sirsmokesallot, May 2, 2010.

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    sirsmokesallot

    sirsmokesallot Member

    hello i am new to this site and am about to begin what i hope to be a good invesment. i have just bought the best of rev grow special and figure it sounds like a woderful way of growing. anyways my question is i have started a soil mix for my beans and am curious to know if i have a safe mix. so far i have peat moss black earth mushroom compost green sand worm compost and lime. unfortunatly i have no soil ph probe or liquid tester i also wanted to know if this mix would contain micro organisims to balance the ph? i also have other nutrients should i add anything else?
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    alexonfire

    alexonfire Well-Known Member

    That looks like a solid soil mix. If you are unsure of ph of your tap just use bottled water for the beginning and it should be fine.
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    sirsmokesallot

    sirsmokesallot Member

    i have access to a spring it runs into a beaver dam i can get the water before or after the dam which would be more healthy?
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    Wetdog

    Wetdog Well-Known Member

    Before. LOL Always drink upstream of the herd.

    For the micros, go the Fungi Perfecti www.fungi.com

    I use MycoGrow Soluble. Will cost you a whopping $8 delivered for enough mycos and BB to treat 150-250 plants (12 gallons of solution).

    Or, you could spend $30-$100 for the same stuff at a hydro shop, or from one of the 'MJ' nute company's.

    Don't get ripped off paying for pretty labels and marketing hype. Fungi Perfecti has been around since before the internet and way before any of these MJ nute lines. Many of them buy from places like FP and just re package the spores, then jack the price up 10x.

    Wet
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    cazador

    cazador Active Member


    Rep + for the microbe info.

    I don't know the count of the stuff inside it might be you get what you pay for. I payed $36? for 4oz of Great White so it's not that much more. $6*4= $24 vs the $36 from my local store.

    Back of Great White bottle:
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    Wetdog

    Wetdog Well-Known Member

    LOL

    Nothing like putting everything into 1 inexpensive package is there?

    I like the one (GH, IIRC), that splits the stuff into Mycos and BB, then charges ~$40 for each. :roll::hump::finger:

    $80 or $5.95? ..... Let me think about that. :confused:

    Wet
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    Wetdog

    Wetdog Well-Known Member

    Look at both of the list of spores/bacteria, they look to be identical.

    I would bet that the Great White is repackaged MycoGrow or similar. Fungi Perfecti has been around since the mid '80's, not a newcomer at all.

    I doubt that very few if any of these nute lines actually grow their own Myco's or BB's, but buy in bulk and repackage.

    $36/4oz isn't too bad. Not great, but a long shot from the $80 for the M&B deal.

    Wet
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    cazador

    cazador Active Member

    I agree. Looks like the MycoGrow™ Soluble might have a bit more variety? And definitely a good price. Good info thanks again.
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    mrFancyPlants

    mrFancyPlants Member

    I just want to second the recommendation for the Mycogrow product. The simple fact that Great White contains vitamin B1 makes me think it is a big scam. B vitamins have been shown to have absolutely no effect on plant growth.

    I had been wanting to try Mycogrow for a while but I never got around to it, figuring my organic soil and additives had enough myco already. I finally got around to it and noticed within a week that my persistent powdery mildew issues just disappeared.

    $8 is cheap, and Paul Staments is a mushroom god. Its a shame more hydro stores aren't carrying his product directly.
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    Joedank

    Joedank Well-Known Member

    Good info here thanks to wet
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    greasemonkeymann

    greasemonkeymann Well-Known Member

    Your plants aren't going to get giardhia or any other microorganism issues, either is fine.
    Get your water from wherever you see the healthiest shores, if the shores are nice and lush the water is going to be fine. I have never ever seen anybody having any problems from using reservoir/lake/pond water. Nor have I ever heard of anyone having issues with it.
    what you DON"T want is farm run-off, that the stuff that'll screw everything up
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    greasemonkeymann

    greasemonkeymann Well-Known Member

    I really like the mykos from xtreme gardening, its the correct specie(s) of mychorrizhae and its granulated, good deal.
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    vitamin_green_inc

    vitamin_green_inc Well-Known Member

    Hey Wetdog, how/ do you apply it/how much? I'm guessing when you first mix the soil? If it adds the much to the nutrient profile, ~6 is awesome. Thanks

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