Thoughts on HSO Blue Dream?

Jogro

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Check out Azure Haze by DJ Short
Nice:
DJ Short Seeds Azure Haze is a release developed jointly between DJ and his son JD Short. A Silver Haze mother, Bay Area origin clone, pollenated by the famous 'stretch-indica' blueberry male to create the same cross as the Blue Dream. The Azure Haze, however, is one generation closer to the P1 landrace ancestry--the Blue Dream cross used an f5 Blueberry male, whereas the 'stretch-indica' Blueberry male used in the Azure Haze parentage is an f4. A vigorous hybrid, this cross is very easy to grow and quite forgiving, making it ideal for the novice or expert grower. Medium- tall height sporting elongated, spear-shaped flower structure of densely packed small-sized calyx yet hefty buds. Medium finish time of 9 to 10 weeks (60 to 70 days). An initially uplifting experience, the full effect slowly comes on to end with a dreamy finish Strong and long-lasting potency with minimal tolerance build-up. A fruity palette with mixes of melon, berry, citrus and evergreen high-notes. Enjoyable day or night
FWIW, if you like the idea of a blueberry-haze cross, Sannie also has a "Jackberry", which is his blueberry indica (which I think itself is a DJ Short blueberry) x his Jack Herer (which is somewhat like super-silver haze) inbred to an F4.

No idea how this compares to the others, but its a fraction of the price.
 

mcrandle

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:bigjoint: And people bitching about not finding a sativa dom. pheno in a 3or5 bean run; The short bus stops in almost every town is all I have to say about that.I didn't stop running Sub'''s gear because i didn't find the golden ticket in my 5 pack :peace:
And if you knew anything about the REAL Blue Dream, you'd know that it is a sativa-dominant strain. So why insult those with a short bus comment for expecting to have mostly sativa-dominant plants, WHEN IT'S A SATIVA-DOMINANT CLONE-ONLY STRAIN!?!
 
Definitely a sativa dominant clone only strain. Unequivocally. The leaves should have no indica characteristics whatsoever. And the smell should be fruity. Not grapy but a light fruit scent mixed with funk. One of my favorite to grow... Very responsive to all sorts of supercropping techniques.
 

ThegrowerMOJO

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Definitely a sativa dominant clone only strain. Unequivocally. The leaves should have no indica characteristics whatsoever. And the smell should be fruity. Not grapy but a light fruit scent mixed with funk. One of my favorite to grow... Very responsive to all sorts of supercropping techniques.
Got any pics of the sativa leaves?Funny i just bought beans of blue dream guess i got shafted..The original blueberry came from little town about 5 miles from me a long time ago passed around the underground here in Indiana for years before you guys on the west coast ever got a hold of it, just saying because at one point everything was clone only at one point in time.And i have blueberry beans from the 80's and funny the blue dream i have going has that same fucked up leaf growth the original bb has and which carrys over in about everything it's breed in to.so saying it will have only sat traits means you don't have the real blue dream,:roll: http://www.medicalcannabisjournal.net/strains/archive/blue-dream
 

PJ Diaz

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got any pics of the sativa leaves?Funny i just bought beans of blue dream guess i got shafted.You guys out in cali need to get out more.
Yes you got shafted. Blue Dream is a clone only strain genius. It's a specific pheno of Santa Cruz Haze x DJ Short Blueberry. Any seeds are only hoping for a close replication of the real cut. It's really that simple.
 

REALSTYLES

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I have one of the original Blue dream clone only strains and it yields off the charts and yes it leans more on the Sativa side.
 

ThegrowerMOJO

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Yes you got shafted. Blue Dream is a clone only strain genius. It's a specific pheno of Santa Cruz Haze x DJ Short Blueberry. Any seeds are only hoping for a close replication of the real cut. It's really that simple.
Just have to wait and see no one I have seen has even grew out HSO version yet.And just how do you think dj short ended up with blueberry as it was a local clone only?And all the breeder's that use seeds obtained from him.like i said all strains or strands however you choose are clone only at one point.
 

hsfkush

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Can I just say, regardless of whether it's the real deal or not, which quite obviously it's not the real deal, but regardless, it's still fire... So who cares? You do realise you'll never ever in your life get the original blue dream, white widow, etc etc unless you live in America or The Netherlands. Anywhere else we HAVE to settle for seeds from a bullshit market where everyone just wants to make money fast. So sitting there saying "you got shafted" isn't going to help... In fact, here's a certificate dedicated to you, captain obvious.
 

Rhizogenic

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The pheno I've seen does resemble the clone only, but looks like it's on track to finish faster. If people are seeing variation that makes sense. It also smells different, almost skunky, while "clone only" samples I've grown or seen smell almost like candy.
 

kentuckyboy

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I bought a 3 pk of HSO Blue Dream. I don't expect it to be the clone only version because it is from seed. Lol! I would think that people were smart enough to realize this. You are not going to get the clone only version in seed ever. You may get lucky and get a pheno that is practically identical, but it still won't be the clone-only version. If you want the clone-only version, then I suggest you go buy the clone. Anyways now that I got my little rant out of the way, I have seen plenty of pics of people grow's of HSO's Blue Dream, and they all looked good to me. Pretty much everyone has given it fairly high remarks, so I figured wtf! I will give it a go sometime in the future. I might try it outside since it is supposed to be a tall plant.
 
Any strain has pheno's dip shit .Blue dream is a hybrid therefore any of the parents can show up.It's ok put your helmet back on.
About random genetic traits popping up, that's not true at all. Stabilization is, in fact, the process of breeding for specific traits enough generations over that seedlings have uniform, predictable, and intended characteristics. Therefore, no, hybrids will not show unintended or random variation... Not unless they occur naturally, which in the context of our conversation, does not exist. Further, crossing strains doesn't mean one breads for an equal balance. So that a Blueberry strain was cultivated in Indiana doesn't mean that California strains are from that particular stock or should exhibit the same physical appearance as one pheno or the other . Whoever said that is a victim of logical fallacy. The famed Blue Dream strain has a breeder and seed stock... Even if "clone only". All this term really means is that the public only has access to clones, not that a breeder didn't create a seed stock for eventual proliferation.
 

xkushx

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Can I just say, regardless of whether it's the real deal or not, which quite obviously it's not the real deal, but regardless, it's still fire... So who cares? You do realise you'll never ever in your life get the original blue dream, white widow, etc etc unless you live in America or The Netherlands. Anywhere else we HAVE to settle for seeds from a bullshit market where everyone just wants to make money fast. So sitting there saying "you got shafted" isn't going to help... In fact, here's a certificate dedicated to you, captain obvious.
we have the clone only blue dream its everywhere now. so played out the best indoor blue dream is going for 170$ an ounce because its so common now
 

cassinfo

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SWIM grew 6 under a 600 watter and pulled a lb. Nicce strain. Very stinky. You better have a good carbon filter.
 

TrichomeBob

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To be able to reproduce the traits of the clone 'blue dream' in seed form is very hard to do from scratch, s1s are prob best way to get them, but a lot of breeders these days are just are trying to emulate clones from seeds, you have to breed for many, many, many generations to even get remotely similiar plants and even then it won't be the same. Just crossing blueberry to a haze (even if its the same strain of haze) will not automatically produce blue dream, these were both two select phenos crossed.
for easier understanding, think of it like two people haing children, they are never identical, and even brothers and sisters when they grow up look different, you probably have a one in a trillion chance of reproducing blue dream from seed, S1s are next best thing to a clone, but then you never really know if the clone you have is blue dream (original) and s1s have probs too.
some dispensaries or places that sell clones start their stock from seed, I can by bubba Kush from greenhouse, clone it and give it to people as bubba Kush, the actual genetics are og Kush x bubblegum which is nothing like the clone bubba Kush.

doesnt matter if you know and have the strains that makes a certain strain, as it's the individual phenotypes that makes the cross. Exodus cheese is just a pheno of skunk #1 like a lot of strains, but If I grow out skunk #1 it doesn't mean I have exodus cheese.

alot of the seed companies are doing this, which I don't understand. That's why when you grow hso blue dream so many phenos show, because their prob just F1 hybrids.
i guarantee they haven't grown out these seeds for generations trying to lock in the characteristics of blue dream.
 

cassinfo

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I dont believe you Bob!! I hope you have night mares while im in blue dream heaven!! Sucka LOL!!
 
I don't think HSO's blue dream is bred to be exactly like the clone only. It's just named after it because of the similarity in the way it was crossed/bred. With that being said, it's a great strain and super stank as I have a mother going right now in dwc but mine is fimmed and super cropped to get as many clones out of it as possible. Don't need it getting all tall.
 

PJ Diaz

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The famed Blue Dream strain has a breeder and seed stock... Even if "clone only". All this term really means is that the public only has access to clones, not that a breeder didn't create a seed stock for eventual proliferation.
Blue dream came from Santa Cruz. It's a cross between this local haze this guy had been working on for about 7 years when he decided to introduce DJ Shorts blue dream into the genetics. He sprung up one random pheno in a large outdoor crop that elite.

See, when you know what you're talking about you don't have to talk out of your ass.
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