Thinking about LED

Dividedsky

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Area 51 is only carrying the rw150. That's a 155w for flower mode. I have 2 of those lights. It retails at $585. That's a fucking rip off if you ask me.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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I can honestly tell you that if I were you I would go with HID over LED. I grew with top of the line led( area 51) and was not impressed. Don't get me wrong you can get some super nice frosty trees from leds but they just weren't for me. I found that my stalks were thin and weak growing with them. Also I was in a grow tent running co2 so heat became a problem believe or not. I will stick with my 1000w ballast w/ 8in raptor hood and use the leds as side or extra lighting.
O by the way area 51 and apache tech are great leds. I also hear black dog led are pretty good
I love the results I get from HPS. Just want to try some of the new technology. And after much research I think LEDs still have a ways to go to catch up with HID.I am still looking at Induction lighting. But the Plasma lights have really caught my attention. Going tomorrow to check out a couple of Plasma grows.
 

Cpappa27

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I love the results I get from HPS. Just want to try some of the new technology. And after much research I think LEDs still have a ways to go to catch up with HID.I am still looking at Induction lighting. But the Plasma lights have really caught my attention. Going tomorrow to check out a couple of Plasma grows.
Just my two cents, I used HPS, LED, and CFL for entire grows. I like the yield that HPS gives me and I like the frostiness and taste of the led so Im trying this run to do HPS with LED in a hybrid grow. See how it goes. If I dont like it then Ill stick with LEDs. Expensive isnt always better when it comes to LEDs,
 

hyroot

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Very nice. Do you think it replaces a 1000?

No but out performs a 600w hps. 3 Inda gros will replace 2 1000's and covers a larger area. I have 3 inda gro's over a 12 x 5. But only 2 pontoons. I need to get another set of pontoons.

I also have plans to add some Vero 29 cobs at 50w each to that area. Hang 2 cobs between each light and wall. Having 8 cobs total with the 3 inda gros.
 

HappyMan420

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HappyMan420

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Here's an idea that popped in my head while responding. I had an initial issue with the LED having such a direct beam

Side lighting.jpg Has anybody done this before?
 

Budzbuddha

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Thanks Root. Pretty much a list of what I have been looking at. Thinking about just doing a DIY LED add on to my HID. Add some more UV and Blue to the Ushio DE. Or maybe just T-5 UV/Blue addition. Also still looking into Plasma. I have gotten some first hand info on the Rocket. Interesting for sure.
The T- 5 idea with a UVB light is a good idea during late stage flowering. You run that in cycles due to lower bulb life. I use 3 100w reptile UVB bulbs to surround any plant that is in its final week to push resin production. Be aware that exposure to UVB ( human exposure ) should limited . I use these Safety Goggles @ $ 15. EBAY

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Budzbuddha

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Look at the grows on RIU and their PLANTS ( it will give you an idea on what others are using ) that may be what you are looking for. Brand loyalty is one thing , but ACTUAL RESULTS tell the story.

See what you requirements are for YOUR situation , not what others WANT you to use.
Will heat be a problem ?
I going to run multiple plants. Or are you tenting your grows.
How much power do I want to use , or am willing to cover during its use.

We all know that HID lights are the standard for most growers ( 409 / 600 / 1000 watt ) but sometimes it won't work for your setup. For me I can't work with heat they make because of a limited grow area so I use LED . Less heat , and easier for me to control exhaust.

There are many manufactures , go by actual use in the field. Not the bullshit advertising.
However , ( most importantly ) you get what you pay for. Sometimes it's a cost that some growers don't expect especially for high quality panels. Bottom line , LED panels do grow nice plants , they are a bit different from HID grows but they work.

COBS are the latest in light power but they are also a form of led . But they have properties that condenses multiple emitters on a micro sized level. They are also very narrow band specific which optimizes the spectrum plants love. These do rival conventual HID / LED systems. But if you are not a tinkerer ( builder ) then hunt for a panel that fits your budget.
 

Budzbuddha

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Just my two cents, I used HPS, LED, and CFL for entire grows. I like the yield that HPS gives me and I like the frostiness and taste of the led so Im trying this run to do HPS with LED in a hybrid grow. See how it goes. If I dont like it then Ill stick with LEDs. Expensive isnt always better when it comes to LEDs,

You totally hit it on the head ... Doing a HYBRID GROW ( varied light systems ) by running plants under on system and or finishing under another. I find my LED panels actually push my VEG STAGE better during the beginning. I have finished plants in CFL ( my preference ) because it make me a denser bud for some reason. Flowering under the panels gives me fluffy buds and good yields. I like targeting the colas with UVB CFL also.

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eag

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Go to the led section. Lost of good and lots of shitty led companies. You will get better answers there.

Best

Diy cobs - cree cxb / cxa , Vero 29 /18
Pacific lighting concepts
Inda Gro
Apache tech
Amare technologies
Area 51 led
Hans led.

All other led companies are crap.

Then for hid

315w lec cmh
Philips 860w allstart cmh
Gavita hps

Everything else is crap.
Im sorry to jump into your thread Alexander Supertramp, not trying to hijack it or anything. What do you think about this one hyroot?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271564432614?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 

Bad Karma

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Go to the led section. Lost of good and lots of shitty led companies. You will get better answers there.

Best

Diy cobs - cree cxb / cxa , Vero 29 /18
Pacific lighting concepts
Inda Gro
Apache tech
Amare technologies
Area 51 led
Hans led.

All other led companies are crap.

Then for hid

315w lec cmh
Philips 860w allstart cmh
Gavita hps

Everything else is crap.
This is the best advice in the thread, pay attention to it.
 

Mr.Head

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Yah I am just wondering if it's even decent. I hope I did not pay 80 euros for poopoo :bigjoint:
you did :) Might work well for veg. Those same style lights were like $350 a couple years ago so if you think of it that way you got a hell of a deal :) lol.

DIY COB's are the most cost efficient right now if you're inside the US, outside the US it may be a good idea to buy something like GreenGenes putting out, a pre-assembled light. Optic also has some good options. The reason I say this is I DIY'ed a light and the exchange rate and duties I paid just to get the parts added a substantial amount to my build.

Finding UK distributers are probably easier then searching for Canadian though so maybe you could find the parts on your side of the pond for lesser. I had to order from the US to get the parts I wanted.
 

Budzbuddha

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There many unique designs starting to move from the industry of food and crop growing , and these can be used for cannabis growing.

This an AIRFRAME design , but for DIY builders this a nice setup to copy .

LTC DIAMOND Series High Powered LED GROW Lights

Designed for trouble-free hydroponic growing anywhere! Grow fresh, organic vegetables, herbs in your kitchen, closets and other easy, accessible locations. We promote a different kind of LED Light! Self-cooling, high-powered energy efficient grow light with Zero fans, Zero noise, Zero risk of fire and VERY DISCREET!


The Cool Diamond LED Ag Light uses only 1.23 amps, 14.975 plus lumens with our all white full spectrum LED’s, by Philips LUMILEDS, ranging from 380 nm to 770nm.

The LTC Diamond series promote vivacious, healthy growth giving you peace of mind. With our technology you will see up to 70% savings on your next utilities bill. It comes with aircraft quality steel cables and a ratchet hanging system for immediate plug and play. No other accessories required.

Our unique Airframe is here!

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