#1Raiderfan420
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I always add some cal-mag to feeding plan with H&G. It is most important IMO, during weeks 5-7.
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Hulk Nugs
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Hey raider do you use Greatwhite?? if so what is it really, can that be used for cal-mag problems ? Two different people are telling two different things lmao time to get a third grower into the convo
xivex
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Okay everyone,
I've finished reading the ENTIRE 53 pages of this thread. I can summarize in a few key points:
1) When using H&G, mix the base nutes first, then pH to the appropriate level. Then add your additives and wait. It should stabilize in the appropriate region.
2) The H&G nutrient feed chart is a work-in-progress and is still being updated. The nute levels they recommend are very strong. Use common sense.
3) The nutrient feed chart assumes RO water is used.
4) If using RO water, its alright to add products (and even beneficial to add them) such as Gro-Tek's Pro-Silicate and Cal-Mag additives. But it is NOT alright to add strong fertizliers like Gravity, Snow Storm Ultra, Tiger Bloom, PK 13-14, etc etc.
5) H&G is awesome nutes!
6) Don't abuse Magic Green! You'll short yourself on the root development of your plant!
Thanks,
X
I've finished reading the ENTIRE 53 pages of this thread. I can summarize in a few key points:
1) When using H&G, mix the base nutes first, then pH to the appropriate level. Then add your additives and wait. It should stabilize in the appropriate region.
2) The H&G nutrient feed chart is a work-in-progress and is still being updated. The nute levels they recommend are very strong. Use common sense.
3) The nutrient feed chart assumes RO water is used.
4) If using RO water, its alright to add products (and even beneficial to add them) such as Gro-Tek's Pro-Silicate and Cal-Mag additives. But it is NOT alright to add strong fertizliers like Gravity, Snow Storm Ultra, Tiger Bloom, PK 13-14, etc etc.
5) H&G is awesome nutes!
6) Don't abuse Magic Green! You'll short yourself on the root development of your plant!
Thanks,
X
#1Raiderfan420
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I only use Great White when I transplant and in early veg. GW is a combination of mycorhizae, beneficial bacteria, trichoderma, and vitamins which helps the plants break down and absorb nutrients. It isn't a source of cal-mag to my knowledge. House and garden recommends adding Cal-mag to their line.
It is great to add GW after a flush or if you had a lock-out problem.
#1Raiderfan420
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Yea, that it is good to add great white through the entire grow. I just run hydro and don't like the film that it can sometimes add to the reserviors and hoses. As for the Cal-Mag, it all depends on the water you are starting with. If you are not using RO then your tap may have enough calcium and magnesium in it. I used to use RO water, but my tap is 22-28 ppm, so I scatched the RO filter. I have found that I can get away with less cal-mag now than with the RO. It does recommend on the H&G site to add Cal-mag and to use RO water. When I spoke to them on the phone, the rep told me that the feeding charts are based on RO water. She also said that 25 ppms is un heard of in Europe tap water.
I use Cal-mag at 50% through my entire grow and just increase it a bit during weeks 5-7. I figure at 50% recommended rate, any excess cal-mag will just not be used and it is cheap.
ilove2sell
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This was a great thread! Thanks for it!!! +rep
xivex
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Thanks dude! I am trying to get my local shop to get this stuff but apparently its a huge PITA to get Humboldt Wholesale to get you listed as a distributor for H&G/actually place the order/get the order in. LOL...pissing me off, but this is besides the point. Point is..eventually I'll be using H&G nutes and I wanted to prepare myself and learn everything about them I could before using them so I'd be prepared!
Sooner or later I'll be using it, was just hoping it'd be this grow, but more than likely it'll be next one..
OZUT
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What you could do is call them direct and have them ship it to a hydro store near youThanks dude! I am trying to get my local shop to get this stuff but apparently its a huge PITA to get Humboldt Wholesale to get you listed as a distributor for H&G/actually place the order/get the order in. LOL...pissing me off, but this is besides the point. Point is..eventually I'll be using H&G nutes and I wanted to prepare myself and learn everything about them I could before using them so I'd be prepared!
Sooner or later I'll be using it, was just hoping it'd be this grow, but more than likely it'll be next one..
ganicsarebetter
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hey all! been using Hand G for a while now and never any problems. now however theres this rust, brown spot on the older growth. the new growth is just fine.
this rust color is new and not sure what to do. read ALOT on it, none of which apply to this situation. anyone have any otherideas as to why this rust color is on the older growth?
mad rep to anyone with an answer...
this rust color is new and not sure what to do. read ALOT on it, none of which apply to this situation. anyone have any otherideas as to why this rust color is on the older growth?
mad rep to anyone with an answer...
ilove2sell
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Try and send a pic... I think it may be the same issue I was dealing with...
ganicsarebetter
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thanks for the replies...
1. there are no other symptoms
2. the leaves are a beautiful green except where afected
3. there is some on the leaf edges
4. slight curl down at tips, but not all....just a few
5. they are more bltchy shaped, and within the veinds of the leaf.
about 7 weeks veg right now, already showing sex and all...using the correct ph everytime, i check ph before each feed.
gotta get them pics up for u all!!
thanks check later on for pics
1. there are no other symptoms
2. the leaves are a beautiful green except where afected
3. there is some on the leaf edges
4. slight curl down at tips, but not all....just a few
5. they are more bltchy shaped, and within the veinds of the leaf.
about 7 weeks veg right now, already showing sex and all...using the correct ph everytime, i check ph before each feed.
gotta get them pics up for u all!!
thanks check later on for pics
MEG29
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Hello everyone hope everything is good with y'all me I'm not doing so hot I'm starting to get once again what appears to be mag deficiency I'm using tap water with a ppm of 100 then I add 1ml of cal-mag,5ml of Coco A&B,1ml of Roots ex,1ml of Algen extract,and 0.4 of Drip clean for my clones and the same for my mother plant but with 7ml of coco A&B so before I do anything and mess it up more I would like to know what you good people think,any help is much appreciated cause if I can't get this batch right I give up
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Roots Excel is awesome. I mean that is actually something special. It cured a crop wide case of pythium in one week. I couldnt beleive it. The rest of their line is no better and no worse than the other big hobbyist nutrient companies (advanced, GH etc etc). They have over lappping products just like the rest of them. I found a post on H&G's usa site with a sales rep explaining all the overlapping products and how they are really just the same. All the big nutrient companies have overlapping products in order to open up more revenue streams. I'll see if I can find that post. he talks about shooting powder and Bud XL being exactly the same in every way except one is a powder, one a liquid. All the hobbyist companies do this.
ilove2sell
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I would really like to see this.... H&G has a quarter of our friends at A&N.... Please post er up!
H and G's site said that algen extract can be used as a foliar spray but it didn't list a recommended dosage or solution strength. Anyone tried this or know how to go about trying it out? What ppm's are other foliar sprays? I'm a first timer who's running aero but started from seed in rockwool. NOW I know this is no-no. So I'm just tryin to keep the roots healthy enough to get em large enough to take some decent clones. Is it possible to use roots excel too often or add it to the res too often? Any help or input's appreciated. thanks
matt02222222
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Hello all, looking for some advice! Im using H and G's full coco line with Atami Coco in 3 gallon pots. I have clones in veg right now that are not looking good, from what I can tell it looks like a nitrogen deff. The plants are yellowing and the stems are red. I use tap water with a ppm of 150 and nute strength of about 2.5ml a+b, 2.5 ml cal mag, 2.5ml multizyme, roots excelurator. I water every few days when the coco gets to half its wet weight. Do you guys see anything I could be doing wrong? Anything to counteract this problem?