The Latest Study in the 'Anti-Cannabis Campaign'

Xiu

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place and relationship problems, the authors found that those dependent on cannabis experienced more financial difficulties, such as paying for basic living expenses and food, than those who were alcohol dependent.

How about you guys? What kind of jobs do you have--or social standing of any kind? Are you as indigent and stressed as the article wants us to believe? I'd be interested in hearing input from easy-to-reach stoners and maybe compare some anecdotal evidence to the presented empirical data at hand.
I do not have a criminal record, nor do I use marijuana or alcohol daily. Sometimes not even weekly. Gainfully employed in the private sector. Weed would be my "drug" of choice over alcohol. I volunteer and sit on a couple boards. Never been drug tested at work although I have been lucky to stay with the same company for a long time.

How about yourself? Same questions back at you. If you answered already I apologize, must have missed that.
 

hyphyjoose

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LOL deja vu all over again, from 2011 no less, you seem to really enjoy this topic.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-association-between-early-marijuana-use-and-health-problems-a-longitudinal-study.496899/

How was that three year hiatus?
Yes I find the topic very interesting when anything related to medical marijuana is released in publications of high report in the scientific community, whether it's positive or negative. So what exactly is the issue with that?

You and the couple of users that keep liking your posts have yet to actually dismantle the argument but instead keep focusing the argument on me and not the facts presented. I am still waiting for a rigorous dismantle of the statistics from Singlemalt and an enlightened individual such as yourself, using your methodologies and data.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yes I find the topic very interesting when anything related to medical marijuana is released in publications of high report in the scientific community, whether it's positive or negative. So what exactly is the issue with that?

You and the couple of users that keep liking your posts have yet to actually dismantle the argument but instead keep focusing the argument on me and not the facts presented. I am still waiting for a rigorous dismantle of the statistics from Singlemalt and an enlightened individual such as yourself, using your methodologies and data.
In reverse rainbow order:

He already did
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We already did
 

hyphyjoose

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I do not have a criminal record, nor do I use marijuana or alcohol daily. Sometimes not even weekly. Gainfully employed in the private sector. Weed would be my "drug" of choice over alcohol. I volunteer and sit on a couple boards. Never been drug tested at work although I have been lucky to stay with the same company for a long time.

How about yourself? Same questions back at you. If you answered already I apologize, must have missed that.
No worries, you didn't miss it, I didn't answer because the post got sidetracked really fast.

I'm 27 in a couple of months, employed as a webmaster for a statewide newspaper in California (but I wouldn't call it very gainful employment), smoke periodically throughout the week but not as frequently as the report touts as being "cannabis dependent."--I have my MMJ card for DDD and Arthritis so I use it for both recreation and medicine
 
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Singlemalt

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Yes I find the topic very interesting when anything related to medical marijuana is released in publications of high report in the scientific community, whether it's positive or negative. So what exactly is the issue with that?

You and the couple of users that keep liking your posts have yet to actually dismantle the argument but instead keep focusing the argument on me and not the facts presented. I am still waiting for a rigorous dismantle of the statistics from Singlemalt and an enlightened individual such as yourself, using your methodologies and data.
I'm retired ; I don't teach any longer, I don't do research any longer; I don't review papers any longer; however I'll give you a partial anecdote in support of your paper:
I've smoked weed on and off since 1967. I make less money now than I did a few years ago. Draw your own conclusions and maybe write an abstract :)
 

tangerinegreen555

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You and the couple of users that keep liking your posts have yet to actually dismantle the argument but instead keep focusing the argument on me and not the facts presented.
Your "facts" sound more like someone's opinion to me. Perhaps politically influenced. General common sense would indicate alcohol is far worse than cannabis. Let's compare annual death totals, want to?
 

hyphyjoose

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Your "facts" sound more like someone's opinion to me. Perhaps politically influenced. General common sense would indicate alcohol is far worse than cannabis. Let's compare annual death totals, want to?
These aren't my facts, they are facts being espoused by UC Davis's funded research on the issue, the things about alcohol were directly copied from their article with a link to the original. I didn't write anything about it except for a paraphrase above the original paragraphs.
 

Singlemalt

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These aren't my facts, they are facts being espoused by UC Davis's funded research on the issue, the things about alcohol were directly copied from their article with a link to the original. I didn't write anything about it except for a paraphrase above the original paragraphs.
UC Davis didn't fund the research. The principle author merely works there now.
 

hyphyjoose

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UC Davis didn't fund the research. The principle author merely works there now.
I understand they didn't fund the research. Their research was funded to take part in a cohort study of data culminated from multiple agencies and institutions.
 

Singlemalt

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Here is a tip-off: The principle author has no citations in the reference citations of the study; only 3 of the eight authors have any relation to Dunedin where the original study was performed. The principle author has not yet been employed at UC Davis for a year yet.
Again, draw your own conclusions

Edit: Principle author holds the Vice Chancellor chair in and is associate director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at Davis. Look for future as well as past anti-firearm articles. That's pretty agenda driven
 
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WeedFreak78

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No worries, you didn't miss it, I didn't answer because the post got sidetracked really fast.

I'm 27 in a couple of months, employed as a webmaster for a statewide newspaper in California (but I wouldn't call it very gainful employment), smoke periodically throughout the week but not as frequently as the report touts as being "cannabis dependent."--I have my MMJ card for DDD and Arthritis so I use it for both recreation and medicine
Is this research for a story for said news agency? Are they affiliated with this study or any of its benefactors?
 

hyphyjoose

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Is this research for a story for said news agency? Are they affiliated with this study or any of its benefactors?
No, the newspaper I work for deals primarily with local electoral politics and some beltway issues that tie into my state's issues. I posted this article out of sheer personal interest, because I believe the article's headline to be completely misrepresenting the statistical data (the headline says it is more fiscally destructive than alcohol for you and inhibits social mobility towards users even though these effects seemed to only affect 15% of habitual users[whom they deem chronically dependent or smoking 4x or more a week]) I wouldn't really be able to gain anything good for a newspaper through a forum like this, I would have to be out actually interviewing people or conversing with them through email or phone
 

curious2garden

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These aren't my facts, they are facts being espoused by UC Davis's funded research on the issue, the things about alcohol were directly copied from their article with a link to the original. I didn't write anything about it except for a paraphrase above the original paragraphs.
I understand they didn't fund the research. Their research was funded to take part in a cohort study of data culminated from multiple agencies and institutions.
Ok can you choose one and get back to us.
 

hyphyjoose

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Ok can you choose one and get back to us.
Really bro? The part in the first quote you highlight indicates a possessive. The research, which was funded(by supporters like Jacobs Foundation), belonged to UC Davis/parties involved. My 2nd quote enforces that (Singlemalt understood it, why can't you?)

Can you stop this impudent stupidity now?
 
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