The Great Debate.

Murfy said:

medical hash bash?-

sounds good.

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Me likes the sound of that.

Why we sure as hell can have a huge medical hash bash in the south 20. No one under 21 allowed though. Call the radio stations and lets have us a hash bash outside them city limits.

Murf you would have been proud of me bro....i took the died 3 zips that i got off those plants and sold them for only $150 each. I could have charged more....i saw it in their eyes, but I hope they do the right thing. I told them I was going to send a random buddy in to check and see if they were selling my medicine for $20 a gram....we shall see. If they do they will get no more meds from me.

hic said:

Why we sure as hell can have a huge medical hash bash in the south 20. No one under 21 allowed though. Call the radio stations and lets have us a hash bash outside them city limits.

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might be a good time for a get together in the fall...??

Dr.Daehtop said:

Murf you would have been proud of me bro....i took the died 3 zips that i got off those plants and sold them for only $150 each. I could have charged more....i saw it in their eyes, but I hope they do the right thing. I told them I was going to send a random buddy in to check and see if they were selling my medicine for $20 a gram....we shall see. If they do they will get no more meds from me.

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Yes!!! This is the power we growers have. Finally I see someone using their authority!

Dr.Daehtop said:

Murf you would have been proud of me bro....i took the died 3 zips that i got off those plants and sold them for only $150 each. I could have charged more....i saw it in their eyes, but I hope they do the right thing. I told them I was going to send a random buddy in to check and see if they were selling my medicine for $20 a gram....we shall see. If they do they will get no more meds from me.

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Damn a zip for $150 sounds like a dream to me.

Thats legit though. Patients should be able to get affordable buds. Dispensaries are kind of a rip off. Not even highschoolers pay 20 a gram these days.

and there it is-

a patient saying "WOW".
it happens every time.

local growers should be teaming up to dictate price. everyone wins. if us growers choose to be the suppliers ourselves until the disp's start using a little more compassion in their business model.
once patients learn that you're a cool guy they will come to you next time, and tell 15 of their friends.

i dont want 15 people knowing I grow.

Sticking your neck out is how you get it cut off

and if you get caught dictating price that means you are selling for profit, thats illegal.

the law says caregivers are allowed to charge for reimbursement.. Thats to make back what you put in to it, not to make profits.. but, dispensaries are making profits, why shouldnt the grower? How are dispensaries doing it anyways? They must have more than their limit of 2.5 per patient? Are they even caregivers?

You speak the truth

stumpjumper said:

the law says caregivers are allowed to charge for reimbursement.. Thats to make back what you put in to it, not to make profits.. but, dispensaries are making profits, why shouldnt the grower? How are dispensaries doing it anyways? They must have more than their limit of 2.5 per patient? Are they even caregivers?

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Yes, most dispensaries are connected to a collective of growers, and are allowed to have a lot of weight. Plus I know that most dispensaries only keep limited quantities on sight for security reasons.

Also, I went in to the dispensary that took my overages and sure enough...he kept his word. He was asking $10 a gram for my meds which is really a great deal compared to all of the others that I have checked out. He paid me $6 a gram and only marked up $4....more than fair for a business. He also gives quantity discounts for patients that buy ounces or more...also a first in this area. The most expensive strain that he has is $19 a gram...Green Crack I believe. He says that he will "NEVER" go over $19 a gram and I hope that he keeps his word.

That crazy shit to be involved in.... no wonder they charge $20 a gram, hopefully they are saving some back for attorney fees. I'm half assed changing my mind aboit even getting my card, no way in hell would I be running or supplying a dispensarie.

is being compensated for many loving hours in the garden-

profit?

i don't think so.
is your wage profit. lets look.

courtesy of webster;
1prof·it

noun, often attributive \ˈprä-fət\


Definition of PROFIT

1
: a valuable return : gain

2
: the excess of returns over expenditure in a transaction or series of transactions; especially : the excess of the selling price of goods over their cost

3
: net income usually for a given period of time

4
: the ratio of profit for a given year to the amount of capital invested or to the value of sales

5
: the compensation accruing to entrepreneurs for the assumption of risk in business enterprise as distinguished from wages or rent
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1wage

noun \ˈwāj\


Definition of WAGE

1
a : a payment usually of money for labor or services usually according to contract and on an hourly, daily, or piecework basis —often used in plural b plural : the share of the national product attributable to labor as a factor in production

2
: recompense, reward —usually used in plural but singular or plural in construction <the wages of sin is death — Romans 6:23 (Revised Standard Version)>


now. back in the real world, making 1500 a week was pretty common. depending on site conditions and easy sales, sometimes as much as 3-4K.
in this flip side, i am laso a good worker. my quality is sufficient for me, which is rather close to perfect normally. the amount of hours that i spend in the garden, advocating, meeting with patients, giving advice, etc., are about the same as in the real world also. read; full time job.

then of course the nutes, power, expendables, etc..

at the prices i suggested , aperson is NOT profiting. they are simply getting back their time, in the form of tender. the profit is realized form selling the good at market above the production cost. so the children that make nikes don't realize profit, just nike.

so, it would seem , the only ones profiting are the ones selling for outlandish prices. the schedule i laid out before, allows for a grower of relatively decent skill to earn about a thousand a week, after taxes.
that's not profit, its the cost of producing the good.

above that reasonable wage(by reasonable i mean REAL. that's about what most mechanics, electricians, nurses, postpeople, etc. would earn.) threshold is profit.

it's an amount above the reasonable current market value for production of that commodity.

thanks.
murf

ahh, get you card stumpjumper so that we may play.lol

I do not believe we are the government. The people serve who they serve. It is black and white. For every angel there is a demon and in america EVERYONE has a voice the ones that serve the Father and the ones that serve the devil.

Have you ever thought of the root of the words? do you see God in Good? Do you see the devil in the word evil? If you cannot see it then you will fall.

You would like the worlds greatest debate? Give me more to talk about then pot.

ok-

know any good accountants? think cpa.
and another thing

imagine if you could grow. 500 lbs cannabis.
what would you do with the money.

3200*500=1.6 million.

you could lets say, build a homeless shelter. it would be easy for that type of money. especially with all my construction buddies hurting for work.
but how would you pay the bills? i guess you could grow another 500 ounds and that finance another year of operation, but you would be closed for the initial year. waitin for your money to ripen.

been thinking and talking about abetter way.

WE are the government. it was given us by God. it is UNALIENABLE. they couldn't take it if they wanted too, and , never have been able to.
that's why we must do the right thing. standing still is an afront to God. he has given us the the miracle of freedom and individual choice.

don't use it to be a dud.

I will try my hardest not to murfy. I do not wanna be a dud but I do not know if I were to do anything would it change something? If I yell foul some sorry son of a gun is there to say fair.

This country needs a big reminder of who it belongs to.. So after we repay China we should all have a revolution.

stumpjumper said:

So after we repay China

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repay China with what?
Obama spends 101% of what we take in.
Negative cash flow.

I heard they were making pills out of ground up dead babies, maybe we can sell them some dead politicians?