The differences between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party
- Thread starter Padawanbater2
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fail.
everything they do is money-centered.
this is the perfect example of rightie in action.
the party of no rules, regs in order to continue the wealth accumulation at any cost; even sacrificing the american people.
people have wised up now are calling them on it and it's not as easy as it used to be to "take us".
it's a sickness they have.
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
Money in Elections and Voting
-Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections (Reverse Citizens United)
For Against
Rep 0 42
Dem 54 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/49906#.VJZTIV4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission
-Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements
For Against
Rep 0 39
Dem 59 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/32154#.VJZTgl4MAAA
-DISCLOSE Act (The Democracy Is Strengthened by Casting Light On Spending in Elections Act)
For Against
Rep 0 53
Dem 45 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/41152#.VJZTuF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISCLOSE_Act
-Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act
For Against
Rep 8 38
Dem 51 3
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll034.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act
-Repeal Taxpayer Financing of Presidential Election Campaigns
For Against
Rep 232 0
Dem 0 189
https://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37426#.VJZUFl4MAAA
-Backup Paper Ballots - Voting Record
For Against
Rep 20 170
Dem 228 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/21011#.VJZUF14MAAA
Environment
-Stop "the War on Coal" Act of 2012
For Against
Rep 214 13
Dem 19 162
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/41688#.VJZUHl4MAAA
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3409/text
-Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations
For Against
Rep 218 2
Dem 4 186
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/46997#.VJZUqV4MAAA
"War on Terror"
-Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8795#.VJZU1V4MAAA
-Patriot Act Reauthorization
For Against
Rep 196 31
Dem 54 122
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/35224#.VJZVAF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act#Reauthorizations
-Repeal Indefinite Military Detention
For Against
Rep 15 214
Dem 176 16
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/48229
-FISA Act Reauthorization of 2008
For Against
Rep 188 1
Dem 105 128
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll437.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act_of_1978_Amendments_Act_of_2008
-FISA Reauthorization of 2012
For Against
Rep 227 7
Dem 74 111
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00236
-House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 2 228
Dem 172 21
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll237.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
-Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 3 32
Dem 52 3
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/46301#.VJZVp14MAAA
-Iraq Withdrawal Amendment
For Against
Rep 2 45
Dem 47 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/12760#.VJZVyF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq
-Time Between Troop Deployments
For Against
Rep 6 43
Dem 50 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/15831#.VJZV6V4MAAA
-Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo
For Against
Rep 44 0
Dem 9 41
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/42002#.VJZWD14MAAA
-Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 50 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/15833#.VJZWwF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
-Habeas Review Amendment
For Against
Rep 3 50
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8730#.VJZW-F4MAAA
-Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 39 12
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37420#.VJZXHF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_detention_without_trial
-Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 9 49
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37433
-Prohibits Prosecution of Enemy Combatants in Civilian Courts
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For Against
Rep 46 2
Dem 1 49
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37095#.VJZXxF4MAAA
-Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8795#.VJZbb14MAAA
The Economy/Jobs
-Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Bureau Act
For Against
Rep 4 39
Dem 55 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30346#.VJZbtV4MAAA
-American Jobs Act of 2011 - $50 billion for infrastructure projects
For Against
Rep 0 48
Dem 50 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/36879#.VJZb414MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jobs_Act
-End the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection
For Against
Rep 39 1
Dem 1 54
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30296#.VJZcLF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau
-Kill Credit Default Swap Regulations
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 18 36
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30364#.VJZcgV4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap
-Revokes tax credits for businesses that move jobs overseas
For Against
Rep 10 32
Dem 53 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/49616#.VJZc514MAAA[/quote]
desert dude
Well-Known Member
In 2007 Citizen's United made a documentary critical of Hillary Clinton, which they tried to air in 2008, shortly before the 2008 presidential election. The documentary was forbidden by the US district court from running. Citizen's United took their case to SCOTUS. SCOTUS decided that free speech is fundamental to the US Republic and a constitutionally protected activity.
No wonder Democrats howl about it. Imagine the nerve of Americans, thinking they have to right to be critical of a Clinton.
Free people have the right to speak their minds, to associate with whomever they please and to spend their money to fund political campaigns as they see fit.
Democrats here on RIU seem to think that opposing the fundamental right to free speech puts them on the moral high ground. It is really pathetic to watch.
I know most of you don't have the first clue what you are supporting when you criticize the Citizen's United decision by SCOTUS, so I am including the paragraph below. Do you really want the government to regulate political speech? Really?
During the original oral argument, Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm L. Stewart (representing the FEC) argued that under Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce, the government would have the power to ban books if those books contained even one sentence expressly advocating the election or defeat of a candidate and were published or distributed by a corporation or union.[13] In response to this line of questioning, Stewart further argued that under Austin the government could ban the digital distribution of political books over the Amazon Kindle or prevent a union from hiring a writer to author a political book.
No wonder Democrats howl about it. Imagine the nerve of Americans, thinking they have to right to be critical of a Clinton.
Free people have the right to speak their minds, to associate with whomever they please and to spend their money to fund political campaigns as they see fit.
Democrats here on RIU seem to think that opposing the fundamental right to free speech puts them on the moral high ground. It is really pathetic to watch.
I know most of you don't have the first clue what you are supporting when you criticize the Citizen's United decision by SCOTUS, so I am including the paragraph below. Do you really want the government to regulate political speech? Really?
During the original oral argument, Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm L. Stewart (representing the FEC) argued that under Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce, the government would have the power to ban books if those books contained even one sentence expressly advocating the election or defeat of a candidate and were published or distributed by a corporation or union.[13] In response to this line of questioning, Stewart further argued that under Austin the government could ban the digital distribution of political books over the Amazon Kindle or prevent a union from hiring a writer to author a political book.
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ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
Money in Elections and Voting
-Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections (Reverse Citizens United)
For Against
Rep 0 42
Dem 54 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/49906#.VJZTIV4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission
-Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements
For Against
Rep 0 39
Dem 59 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/32154#.VJZTgl4MAAA
-DISCLOSE Act (The Democracy Is Strengthened by Casting Light On Spending in Elections Act)
For Against
Rep 0 53
Dem 45 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/41152#.VJZTuF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISCLOSE_Act
-Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act
For Against
Rep 8 38
Dem 51 3
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll034.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act
-Repeal Taxpayer Financing of Presidential Election Campaigns
For Against
Rep 232 0
Dem 0 189
https://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37426#.VJZUFl4MAAA
-Backup Paper Ballots - Voting Record
For Against
Rep 20 170
Dem 228 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/21011#.VJZUF14MAAA
Environment
-Stop "the War on Coal" Act of 2012
For Against
Rep 214 13
Dem 19 162
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/41688#.VJZUHl4MAAA
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3409/text
-Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations
For Against
Rep 218 2
Dem 4 186
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/46997#.VJZUqV4MAAA
"War on Terror"
-Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8795#.VJZU1V4MAAA
-Patriot Act Reauthorization
For Against
Rep 196 31
Dem 54 122
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/35224#.VJZVAF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act#Reauthorizations
-Repeal Indefinite Military Detention
For Against
Rep 15 214
Dem 176 16
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/48229
-FISA Act Reauthorization of 2008
For Against
Rep 188 1
Dem 105 128
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll437.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act_of_1978_Amendments_Act_of_2008
-FISA Reauthorization of 2012
For Against
Rep 227 7
Dem 74 111
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00236
-House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 2 228
Dem 172 21
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll237.xml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
-Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison
For Against
Rep 3 32
Dem 52 3
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/46301#.VJZVp14MAAA
-Iraq Withdrawal Amendment
For Against
Rep 2 45
Dem 47 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/12760#.VJZVyF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq
-Time Between Troop Deployments
For Against
Rep 6 43
Dem 50 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/15831#.VJZV6V4MAAA
-Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo
For Against
Rep 44 0
Dem 9 41
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/42002#.VJZWD14MAAA
-Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 50 0
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/15833#.VJZWwF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
-Habeas Review Amendment
For Against
Rep 3 50
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8730#.VJZW-F4MAAA
-Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial
For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 39 12
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37420#.VJZXHF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_detention_without_trial
-Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 9 49
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37433
-Prohibits Prosecution of Enemy Combatants in Civilian Courts
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For Against
Rep 46 2
Dem 1 49
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/37095#.VJZXxF4MAAA
-Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention
For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/8795#.VJZbb14MAAA
The Economy/Jobs
-Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Bureau Act
For Against
Rep 4 39
Dem 55 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30346#.VJZbtV4MAAA
-American Jobs Act of 2011 - $50 billion for infrastructure projects
For Against
Rep 0 48
Dem 50 2
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/36879#.VJZb414MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jobs_Act
-End the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection
For Against
Rep 39 1
Dem 1 54
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30296#.VJZcLF4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau
-Kill Credit Default Swap Regulations
For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 18 36
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/30364#.VJZcgV4MAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap
-Revokes tax credits for businesses that move jobs overseas
For Against
Rep 10 32
Dem 53 1
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/49616#.VJZc514MAAA[/quote]
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
desert dude
Well-Known Member
Have any of you progressives ever had your own original thought?
This ruling was frequently characterized as permitting corporations and unions to donate to political campaigns,[24] or as removing limits on how much a donor can contribute to a campaign.[25] However, these claims are incorrect, as the ruling did not affect the 1907 Tillman Act's ban on corporate campaign donations (as the Court noted explicitly in its decision[26]), nor the prohibition on foreign corporate donations to American campaigns,[27] nor did it concern campaign contribution limits.[28] The Citizens United decision did not disturb prohibitions on corporate contributions to candidates, and it did not address whether the government could regulate contributions to groups that make independent expenditures.[22] The Citizens United ruling did however remove the previous ban on corporations and organizations using their treasury funds for direct advocacy.
This ruling was frequently characterized as permitting corporations and unions to donate to political campaigns,[24] or as removing limits on how much a donor can contribute to a campaign.[25] However, these claims are incorrect, as the ruling did not affect the 1907 Tillman Act's ban on corporate campaign donations (as the Court noted explicitly in its decision[26]), nor the prohibition on foreign corporate donations to American campaigns,[27] nor did it concern campaign contribution limits.[28] The Citizens United decision did not disturb prohibitions on corporate contributions to candidates, and it did not address whether the government could regulate contributions to groups that make independent expenditures.[22] The Citizens United ruling did however remove the previous ban on corporations and organizations using their treasury funds for direct advocacy.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
so it's cool if i hang 12 foot posters of gay male on male anal fisting all over your neighborhood then?
Padawanbater2
Well-Known Member
Are there any conservatives on this forum who can defend any of these votes?
Indefinite detention of American citizens without trial? Approval of CIA torture? Patriot Act? FISA act? No time between troop deployments? Eliminating Habeas Corpus for American citizens? Kill credit default swap regulations? Subsidies for American businesses that offshore jobs?
You say you're against this stuff pretty often here in the politics section and yet you still support the people who vote on it and implement it
This is further evidence how vapid and uninformed republicans actually are in this country
Indefinite detention of American citizens without trial? Approval of CIA torture? Patriot Act? FISA act? No time between troop deployments? Eliminating Habeas Corpus for American citizens? Kill credit default swap regulations? Subsidies for American businesses that offshore jobs?
You say you're against this stuff pretty often here in the politics section and yet you still support the people who vote on it and implement it
This is further evidence how vapid and uninformed republicans actually are in this country
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
gee, what a fucking distinction to be had there!
no wonder you had to copy and paste paragraphs of bullshit to put in between, all the while you accuse progressives of not having any original thought.
that unattributed, uncited, copy and paste you posted really showed how orginal a thinker you are.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
not even close, short stuff.
so let me get this straight..you're comparing a documentary on a public personality to laws that are voted on in our nation?
this has nothing to do with free speech and has everything to do with outspending a competitor..just like they do in business.
the little guy should have the same opportunity as mr. money bags.
talk about a failure of a post!
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
I dont care how much money is spent on elections
I just want to know where it came from
I just want to know where it came from
desert dude
Well-Known Member
Not "laws that are voted on in our nation". It is the first amendment, the supreme law of the land.
Do you really want the government to censor what you can read, view, talk about, and proselytize for?
Everybody has the same opportunity.
The Citizen's United decision was the right decision and, frankly, was a no-brainer. Of course we have the right to political speech!
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
the best part was where he asked if progressives ever had an original thought, followed by yet another uncited, unattributed copy and paste.
nothing says original like a copy and paste!
Red1966
Well-Known Member
Wrong? You mean they disagreed with you, don't you? I see Democrats in substantial numbers disagreed with you also. Perhaps your idea of what is in "the American peoples interests' isn't as cut and dried as you think?
Red1966
Well-Known Member
A poll of one - Pada