Super Soil Deficiency - Help Needed ASAP

suTraGrow

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Ive gotten it and had no wilting at all, the plant was just all yellow and grew slightly smaller than the others.
Then you did not get pythium, as it block out all the oxygen starting at your roots up which in case block out H2O uptake and oxygen which leads to excessive wilting.
 

Kushfan

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Yea that is why I am 99% sure it is pythium because he seemed to have the basic knowledge of what nutrients to apply and bothered to get beneficial bacteria as well. I doubt he added a lack of any nutrient in his mix especially if he's making compost teas. Pictures would definitely make me 100% sure.
I've been using capulators beneficials since I've started growing organic to ensure healthy plants, and it is mixed in with my soil from the beginning, as well as aerated in a powerful vortex brewer for 24 hours with hi brix molasses, worm castings and Alaskan humisoil. I should've have any kind of fungal problems. I think it is my hard water causing a magnesium lockout or ph related, but most people don't worry about ph in organics as the microbes buffer the ph to their needs. But like I said my dolomite lime is pelletized, so it may not be working to its full potential as its slowly released, maybe causing ph problems.
 
Its near impossible to burn a plant with compost tea. I have beneficials mixed in with my soil and I also brew my compost tea using bennies. I don't measure my ppm with organics.



Will do.

i always remove my plants from direct light spray them and let them dry, then return to the light. sometimes the light will burn it into the leaf
 

Kushfan

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i always remove my plants from direct light spray them and let them dry, then return to the light. sometimes the light will burn it into the leaf
I always spray a couple hours before the lights come on, that way it's absorbed and nearly dry by the time they do.
 

Situation420

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I've been using capulators beneficials since I've started growing organic to ensure healthy plants, and it is mixed in with my soil from the beginning
Hey while you mix your soil that is not the time to add your beneficials. The beneficials should be applied directly to to roots of the plant otherwise you are wasting them.
 

Kushfan

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Hey while you mix your soil that is not the time to add your beneficials. The beneficials should be applied directly to to roots of the plant otherwise you are wasting them.
So Roots Organics, Fox Farm, Biobizz etc are wrong in adding them to their soil? And mycorrhiza is pointless and wasteful and doesn't promote root development? I do appreciate you offering to help and no offense but it sounds like you may need to do some more research before offering organic growing advice.
 

Situation420

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So Roots Organics, Fox Farm, Biobizz etc are wrong in adding them to their soil? And mycorrhiza is pointless and wasteful and doesn't promote root development? I do appreciate you offering to help and no offense but it sounds like you may need to do some more research before offering organic growing advice.
Sorry you feel so strongly about this but they are useless unless they are applied directly to your roots and supported with the right sugars and starches. You should do some research into how beneficial bacteria actually interact with a root zone and then maybe you will be able to describe how your bacteria work rather than just what soil mixes you are using and whats in them.
 

Kushfan

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Sorry you feel so strongly about this but they are useless unless they are applied directly to your roots and supported with the right sugars and starches. You should do some research into how beneficial bacteria actually interact with a root zone and then maybe you will be able to describe how your bacteria work rather than just what soil mixes you are using and whats in them.
I'll agree to disagree. I guess those scientists that produce my beneficials don't know any better and their advice and instructions are all wrong. And I guess it was just a fluke that the same strains in the same conditions grew bigger, faster, healthier, and rooted out of the bottom of my smart pots with my amended soil with bennies and mycos, when the same strains with "out of the bag" un-amended soil took twice as long for the same growth and never once rooted out of the pot so quick like that.
 

Situation420

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I'll agree to disagree. I guess those scientists that produce my beneficials don't know any better and their advice and instructions are all wrong. And I guess it was just a fluke that the same strains in the same conditions grew bigger, faster, healthier, and rooted out of the bottom of my smart pots with my amended soil with bennies and mycos, when the same strains with "out of the bag" un-amended soil took twice as long for the same growth and never once rooted out of the pot so quick like that.
What is with all the people on this site so hung on what other people say and what manufacturers tell you? Read what is actually in the products, and understand how to use them yourself. Kush just relax that was a poor example of how beneficials work. You get excited too easily.

I'm done with this post i already told you what is wrong. The chances of a nutrient deficiency due to a lack of fertilizer is very rare and is typically a result of something else going on in the plants.

You have pythium case closed. reply all you want
 

Kushfan

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What is with all the people on this site so hung on what other people say and what manufacturers tell you? Read what is actually in the products, and understand how to use them yourself. Kush just relax that was a poor example of how beneficials work. You get excited too easily.
1. I don't get my beneficials from a big manufacturer. I get them from a well respected grower on the forums by the name of Capulator, who I deal with directly. They contain many more species and much more concentrated than most anything out there, at a cheaper price.

2. How is my first hand experience a poor example?
 

Kushfan

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Does this look like a magnesium problem? I foliar sprayed them with ro water/Epsom salt and also watered some in.
 

stormtroopa

Active Member
Soil mixed proper.
Water is clean. I would PH it 6.5-6.6 just to be safe.
Means one thing to me brother man...that girl is huuuuungry! Week 6, small window of time, give her something to keep chugging for the finish line.
 

Kushfan

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Soil mixed proper.
Water is clean. I would PH it 6.5-6.6 just to be safe.
Means one thing to me brother man...that girl is huuuuungry! Week 6, small window of time, give her something to keep chugging for the finish line.
Well I loaded her up with some earth juice micronutrients, botanicare bloom, liquid bone meal, hi brix molasses and epsom salt. She's either going to die within a few days at the current rate or hang in there till harvest if I addressed the problem. It's a rare og cut that I wasn't able to get clones to root and the source is gone :( and supposed to go 9 weeks so we'll see.
 

Situation420

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1. I don't get my beneficials from a big manufacturer. I get them from a well respected grower on the forums by the name of Capulator, who I deal with directly. They contain many more species and much more concentrated than most anything out there, at a cheaper price.
Fact: You get what you pay for.
 

Situation420

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I just looked at your pictures and its definitely a mild case of pythium and you have nothing to worry about. Look at how dark all your other leaves are. that means they are getting more than enough nutrients. Something is robbing your plant of its nutrients. The only thing that you can do that will be worth it is pour a slurry of beneficials onto the base of that plant and then water it nicely. Its not even that bad so you should stop foliar feeding right now or your going to get mold or mildew. I had the exact problem. Its basically too late at this point anyway but if your want to do something anyway take my advice. They beneficials you have in there now are what is saving that plant but need to be applied earlier in the plants life.
 

Kushfan

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The dark leaves on each side are two different plants of a different strain that wasn't affected by whatever is going on with my og kush. The middle plant is entirely yellow.
 
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