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ProfessorPotSnob

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Just look and see how Green Passion wound up thanks to good old Sub and his antics . I was a mod for a while there and I can tell you all some really dirty shit about Sub and his karma so to say but in the end I do not enjoy shit talking so I ll leave again with a positive note : His Jacks Cleaner cut is a fucking freak of nature and this is the one accidental cross he made that I do love , no not the bx bullshit jc2 as I am talking about the one and only real deal :? !
 
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Mithrandir420

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Mr.Vega said:
My seeds got jckd a few times n I shared it in a couple threads....he deleted two and him n his cronies dogged the shit out of me on another then he locked it so I cldnt respond.....and I had ordered tga seeds.
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Well Vega, in all fairness you did go into his sub forum like gang busters and got upset pretty quick. If it was my forum would have probably deleted your threads too. I am not sure why you won't accept that your issue was with Attitude, not TGA. Like any business that makes and sells wholesale... they sell to the stores, not to you. The stores sell to you. Shipping, delivery, etc are the responsibility of the store, not the manufacturer. Not that it matters...

We all know that super soil is just a reworking of Vic High's soil recipe. And yes, he's a marketing machine, but that doesn't mean he can't grow.
 
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Mithrandir420 said:
Well Vega, in all fairness you did go into his sub forum like gang busters and got upset pretty quick. If it was my forum would have probably deleted your threads too. I am not sure why you won't accept that your issue was with Attitude, not TGA. Like any business that makes and sells wholesale... they sell to the stores, not to you. The stores sell to you. Shipping, delivery, etc are the responsibility of the store, not the manufacturer. Not that it matters...

We all know that super soil is just a reworking of Vic High's soil recipe. And yes, he's a marketing machine, but that doesn't mean he can't grow.
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What better place to bring it up I thought...I was testin the dudes character to see if he was the cool ass dude he claims to be...boy was I disappointed...im not gonna lie my motives were "he'll see this n hook me up...hes cool right n whats it to him but good business".....haha......he reponded to my personal email..."go piss up a rope"...exact words....I started off cool over there...when I started seeing the bullshit I reacted accordingly. ..I pm'd and emailed him first...several times...he nvr responded til he saw the thread n that was only to protect his own interests.
 
abe supercro

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he built that company w that space queen "space-dude". didn't sub 'borrow' the initial cut from somebody, Haaa! ..................>((JC p1))< one of subs semi-original built strains.
 
Mr.Vega

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I dont believe he breeds any of that shit....I think he has ppl that do it...hes the front man...the connect. ..odie n mush n dirt diggler....those are the breeders...id say sub uses others shit to step up on.
 
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abe supercro said:
he built that company w that space queen "space-dude". didn't sub 'borrow' the initial cut from somebody, Haaa! ..................>((JC p1))< one of subs semi-original built strains.
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Hehe I Cant really use the term P1 as he probably still has not ever gotten it back after loosing it down in Florida . I am glad Ae77 brought it back to us in Michigan though as it is a really fucking good old school sat dom f1 accidental pollination in a garage lmfao .. The truth is the cleaner is so fucking freaky he probably never needed the damn male in the first place bahaha .. No matter and setting all jokes aside , skoosh was the man responsible for this in the end and I salute this man all the way for creating the cleaner . There are many random lines out there from the cleaner as it throws its own pollen when pissed off lol
 
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Mithrandir420

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Mr.Vega said:
I dont believe he breeds any of that shit....I think he has ppl that do it...hes the front man...the connect. ..odie n mush n dirt diggler....those are the breeders...id say sub uses others shit to step up on.
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I hope he pays Dioxide very well. As you saidm, he's the connect. And that's the only thing about Subcool that worries me. That he is in a position to become a gatekeeper of sorts to those who want to get into the seed biz and possibly his local MMJ market, too.
 
Mr.Vega

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Mithrandir420 said:
I hope he pays Dioxide very well. As you saidm, he's the connect. And that's the only thing about Subcool that worries me. That he is in a position to become a gatekeeper of sorts to those who want to get into the seed biz and possibly his local MMJ market, too.
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He already is that...until someone whos for real "cool" and genuine steps on the scene to give him some competition im afraid the scene will b tainted w bullshit....if u dont play up to sub u dont get ur foot in the door kinda deal...its already that way...he has some cool ppl around him that I guarantee roll their eyes n shake their head when he turns his back...."yeah yeah when subcools around ill b quiet...when he leaves ill be talkin again"...haha...smokey from friday.
 
abe supercro

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I would have never guessed starting an innocent thread would have gone to this point. lmao. light the fuse, step back and watch the timewreck.
 
buckaroo bonzai

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his name is 'sub' cool for a reason many are finding out-
he is a good grower...sort of

has anything of his won any cups?
-i dont follow him that much but his strains sure keep pooping up an cock blocking good shit

and the vics highsuper soil mix was just an old hippie mix for planting veggies....like in the old days
-before 'bottled' synthesized chemical nutes

who is 'zero' cool...? --his cousin?
"icy cool" would be a good name-or 'iceberg slim'

or 'vanilla ice'.....that means cool white guy right?

YT and the interweb has made many egos out of folks and drs that lead lives of quite desperation....even here in the 10tHd

funny in a couple years how the guys 'strains' went from top of the pile to the bottom....
-not new to me

i would say from now on anyone ordering TGA seeds should not include the word 'michigan' in the return address-


EDIT: aBe ....when have you been on an 'innocent' thread?
your as complex as a rubics cube-:mrgreen:

ahhh there goes my post count up to 800-
 
abe supercro

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remember chili palmer? see Be Cool, Elmore Leonards novel. Get Shorty(?) movie. Elmore is a michigan native recovering from last weeks heart attack.
 
Someguy15

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Mr.Vega said:
I dont believe he breeds any of that shit....I think he has ppl that do it...hes the front man...the connect. ..odie n mush n dirt diggler....those are the breeders...id say sub uses others shit to step up on.
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He's building a group of breeders, he does not try to make any secret of that. A smaller guy could always use a hand from a bigger guy...you scratch my back I scratch yours. No one can deny there are gems to be found in the gear, subs work or not, he's the marketing guy that brings all this product to us. As long as information is presented up front (plenty of testing, get to watch things grow on journals, youtube ect) I see no problem with the way TGA is headed. Is sub the "Ganja king", no, and if you've watched any of the weed nerds you'd know that he doesn't claim to be. Subs just another guy bringing us gear, like it and grow it, or move on. I'd recommend we all spend a little more time pheno hunting and a little less time bitching on the forums.
 
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racerboy71 said:
lol at this entire thread..
racerboy, so not a sub fan.. and omg, how anybody can watch those weed nerd video's is so beyond me.. i've tried, several times, and get about two minutes in, and that voice, omfg, that voice.. it's like fingernails on a chalkboard..
the only weed nerd episode i liked was the one he was at some outdoors grow and fell over the built up planter. lmao over that one, but i only saw like the minute clip of that back in the day on the seed collector's thread..
oh, and another clip i saw where it looked like he shaved while riding a mechanical bull.. one side of his stache looked like hitler, and the other side looked like paul sr from american chopper.. how he went on camera like that was too funny.. again, only watched the clip on that one as well.. but i couldn't stop pissing myself. wish i knew episode numbers so i could share the laughter..

and i agree, if you want flavor, go with tga.. if you want potency and anything resembling stability, well, not so much.. idk how many pheno's i've heard from that plushberry.. the pink pheno, the purple pheno, the green pheno, the this, the that.. christ.. it's no wonder when everything you make is polyhybrid x polyhybrid from hell..

he sure does have a strong fan base though, i'll give the man that.. sometimes on here i feel like it's people who don't visit other sites and never get to talk to any other breeders, so for them, seeing and being able to talk to a breeder is like talking to rock star.. idk, that's my theory and i'm sticking to it, lol..
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his fan base is a close knit small minded group that falls for his shit like some dummies at a bogus cult...I promise if subcool sd drink the koolaid half of those dumbasses would...weak minded ppl who need and are lookin for a leader/head figure...someone in that position to fill whatever weird needs they may have...I bet most are very new to the weed scene n very active on you tube...ha
 
Mr.Vega

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Someguy15 said:
He's building a group of breeders, he does not try to make any secret of that. A smaller guy could always use a hand from a bigger guy...you scratch my back I scratch yours. No one can deny there are gems to be found in the gear, subs work or not, he's the marketing guy that brings all this product to us. As long as information is presented up front (plenty of testing, get to watch things grow on journals, youtube ect) I see no problem with the way TGA is headed. Is sub the "Ganja king", no, and if you've watched any of the weed nerds you'd know that he doesn't claim to be. Subs just another guy bringing us gear, like it and grow it, or move on. I'd recommend we all spend a little more time pheno hunting and a little less time bitching on the forums.
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Thats what forums are for....I use this site for entertainment....what else would it b for?...
 
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