stonesour
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It's all for the community, just trying to help anyone wanting to yield big from CFL. The next grow is going to be pretty ridiculous. Stay tuned!!!!
Stones Journal
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merkstillgrows
Active Member
dude great job this is what i was looking for you just sparked my flame back up i thought about switching to hps but fuck that the greatest cfl grow i have ever read or seen this is a big FUCK YOU to the douche bags who doughted cfls hahahaa i knew some one could pull some thing off like this, i need your help though with a grow cabinet.
billcollector99
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Hey stone, when does the new grow journal start?
stonesour
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Here in a few days, Just waiting on one thing and should be starting by the weekend... Can't freaking wait either!!!!!
stonesour
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Thanks Jed, smoke is pretty freaking good, but I want white widow and super skunk. Should be starting next grow by the weekend!!!
volcomstonerog
Member
nice grow i have a box with metal halide
O btw i just wanted to let you know that you said this grow wouldnt work haha looks like he did prove your wrong.
10jed
Active Member
Hearth, I came back to congratulate the man! You would see I was on his side from the begining if you read what I was saying. I said as he first had it set up I didn't think it would work and ultimately he did make many of the changes I suggested, so I think in the end I was helpful even if I didn't show much tact in the way I said it.
Hey SS, can you give us a rundown of the final system specs? If you already did it I may have just missed it, but it would be great to know how you ended up running when all was said and done. Having it all in a single post would be helpful for someone looking to replicate your box. Linking to that post in your original post would be good for those who read the first page of a thread and then look to the end for what the final yield was without reading the whole thread.
Jed
stonesour
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Thats right guys, jed was a big help on my grow in the beginning, offering all kinds of suggestions. We just didnt see eye to eye on one different thing, which i totally changed anyways (added a/c to the intake) Anyways here is my total grow configuration:
Grow box size: 50" tall x 37" deep x 33" wide for a total of 9 square feet (25 cubic feet)
I built this box with security, max wattage per square foot, and air tight in mind.
Lights used: 30watt 2700K, 85watt 2700K, and 85watt 5000K bulbs
The amount of wattage always fluctuated between 545 watts to 945 because of the positioning of the bulbs throughout the grow. The design of my box helped utilized side lighting during vegging and flowering times, which is critical. Any advice i would give about cfl is dont worry about wattage, but worry about intesity on every postion possible instead.
Soil used: Fox farm planting mix, Seedling mix (generic), Fox farm ocean forrest mix.
I read somewhere that roots need to form in a small container and work your way up to their permanent pots. This gives the plant a solid root ball that is tight and organized, which works better than plants that have roots scattered and root bound. So for the first week i had them in seedling pots (very small plastic pots that are molded together and easy to cut. Then after the second week i had them in slightly larger plastic pots, then just before the third week, I moved them to their permenant pots (the roots definatly liked this system, but i needed to space the time out more).
Nutes used: Fox farm grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom
My wattering system was as follows: Small amounts of water per plant every day. This watering system kept the soil damp enough for perfect growth but not wet enough to cause rot. I checked soil dampness with a meter (which worked great!!!) watering like this kept the plants in constant growth. I dont believe in watering when the plant tells you by drooping. This causes unneeded stress and stunts growth. Just get a cheap 15$ meter and check it every day, if it gets a little dry add some water till the meter reads in the green. My plants grew like freaking crazy like this. Where my problem came was when i started adding nutes. I started adding nutes like the schedule said: every other watering. This was based off of a once a week watering system, not every other day watering like i was doing, so yeah i was feeding them twice to three times a week. Once the 7th week of flowering hit, i started noticing nutrient lockouts. Flushing and testing, flushing and testing.....blah. By week 9 they were ready to come down anyways but the burn really sucked. If i would have just feed them nutes once a week and kept with my same watering system, I know this woulndt have happened and i would have had maximum yield. This is how we learn kiddies!!!
Humidity and temps:
Since its was february and humidity levels were really low (20's) I set up two humidifiers in the beginning to keep levels at around 47-50% RH. During flowering humidifiers where removed and a/c was installed. The a/c cut down the humidity levels ideal for flowering and also dramatically cut down on the temps. Duriing veg temps were steady around 75-77 Degrees but once i added more lights during flowering temps would get in the 80's. Since I was like a hawk and ALWAYS monitored my grow (check my journal, you can see i was streaming my stats to my cell phone all day long!!!!) when there was a problem I was prompt in fixing them.
Ventilation:
During the first couple of weeks I was stumped on what to used for the best ventilation and maximum stealth. I have two four inch intakes on the bottom of my grow box and two on the top, bottom was intake (hot air rises, cold air falls) and top was exhaust. Since this was in my basement, my grow box was set right next to my hot water heater which vented out the roof (35 foot to the roof). I installed a 158 CFM variable speed exhaust blower for hot water heaters just above my box and above my hot water heater. (So when the box was not in use, the hot water heater can naturally vent without the motor being on.) This exhaust motor worked awsome!! very quite and moved a ton of air. The intakes at first worked fine naturally drafting until i started adding more lights. Then the a/c was piped into one four inch intake at the bottom and the other was plugged.
Just to let you guys know, I used timers on everything. This grow was 80% automated. All I did was watch and water.
I made a few mistakes along the way but four bag seed plants yielded me over 6 ounces dried in less than 12 weeks total which was kick ass!!! plenty more than i expected. I have 3 ounces left and sold 3 ounces for 350 each. not too shabby!!!
Now the room is prepped im waiting to get down there and start a new grow soon!!!! If there is anything i left out please remind me and ill edit this post. Thanks for following guys.
Grow box size: 50" tall x 37" deep x 33" wide for a total of 9 square feet (25 cubic feet)
I built this box with security, max wattage per square foot, and air tight in mind.
Lights used: 30watt 2700K, 85watt 2700K, and 85watt 5000K bulbs
The amount of wattage always fluctuated between 545 watts to 945 because of the positioning of the bulbs throughout the grow. The design of my box helped utilized side lighting during vegging and flowering times, which is critical. Any advice i would give about cfl is dont worry about wattage, but worry about intesity on every postion possible instead.
Soil used: Fox farm planting mix, Seedling mix (generic), Fox farm ocean forrest mix.
I read somewhere that roots need to form in a small container and work your way up to their permanent pots. This gives the plant a solid root ball that is tight and organized, which works better than plants that have roots scattered and root bound. So for the first week i had them in seedling pots (very small plastic pots that are molded together and easy to cut. Then after the second week i had them in slightly larger plastic pots, then just before the third week, I moved them to their permenant pots (the roots definatly liked this system, but i needed to space the time out more).
Nutes used: Fox farm grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom
My wattering system was as follows: Small amounts of water per plant every day. This watering system kept the soil damp enough for perfect growth but not wet enough to cause rot. I checked soil dampness with a meter (which worked great!!!) watering like this kept the plants in constant growth. I dont believe in watering when the plant tells you by drooping. This causes unneeded stress and stunts growth. Just get a cheap 15$ meter and check it every day, if it gets a little dry add some water till the meter reads in the green. My plants grew like freaking crazy like this. Where my problem came was when i started adding nutes. I started adding nutes like the schedule said: every other watering. This was based off of a once a week watering system, not every other day watering like i was doing, so yeah i was feeding them twice to three times a week. Once the 7th week of flowering hit, i started noticing nutrient lockouts. Flushing and testing, flushing and testing.....blah. By week 9 they were ready to come down anyways but the burn really sucked. If i would have just feed them nutes once a week and kept with my same watering system, I know this woulndt have happened and i would have had maximum yield. This is how we learn kiddies!!!
Humidity and temps:
Since its was february and humidity levels were really low (20's) I set up two humidifiers in the beginning to keep levels at around 47-50% RH. During flowering humidifiers where removed and a/c was installed. The a/c cut down the humidity levels ideal for flowering and also dramatically cut down on the temps. Duriing veg temps were steady around 75-77 Degrees but once i added more lights during flowering temps would get in the 80's. Since I was like a hawk and ALWAYS monitored my grow (check my journal, you can see i was streaming my stats to my cell phone all day long!!!!) when there was a problem I was prompt in fixing them.
Ventilation:
During the first couple of weeks I was stumped on what to used for the best ventilation and maximum stealth. I have two four inch intakes on the bottom of my grow box and two on the top, bottom was intake (hot air rises, cold air falls) and top was exhaust. Since this was in my basement, my grow box was set right next to my hot water heater which vented out the roof (35 foot to the roof). I installed a 158 CFM variable speed exhaust blower for hot water heaters just above my box and above my hot water heater. (So when the box was not in use, the hot water heater can naturally vent without the motor being on.) This exhaust motor worked awsome!! very quite and moved a ton of air. The intakes at first worked fine naturally drafting until i started adding more lights. Then the a/c was piped into one four inch intake at the bottom and the other was plugged.
Just to let you guys know, I used timers on everything. This grow was 80% automated. All I did was watch and water.
I made a few mistakes along the way but four bag seed plants yielded me over 6 ounces dried in less than 12 weeks total which was kick ass!!! plenty more than i expected. I have 3 ounces left and sold 3 ounces for 350 each. not too shabby!!!
Now the room is prepped im waiting to get down there and start a new grow soon!!!! If there is anything i left out please remind me and ill edit this post. Thanks for following guys.
stonesour
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Second grow journal started!!!!
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/348089-stones-journal-round-2-a.html#post4387921
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/348089-stones-journal-round-2-a.html#post4387921
icantseemyface
Active Member
i like ur grow box its the best thing ive seen. how did u make that mate??
Hefty
Member
Hey Stone
This is my first post and figured I would give it in this thread..I stumpled upon your journal when looking at a more recent post about a CFL question. I just want to thank you so very much for showing me what CFLs can do in a small box like that...I plan to use a box like urs with CFLs untill i get some more money for HPS (parents have a bunch of CFL lights in basement so i dont spend anything) Now that I was lucky enough to have found your thread I will be following exactly what you did and am very excited about getting good results..This is my first grow and have no idea really what to expect just did a lot of reasearch and now gonna try but the point im trying to make is You and Jed have saved me so much time and money by posting this that I can never truly thank you
Thanks again Bro
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This is my first post and figured I would give it in this thread..I stumpled upon your journal when looking at a more recent post about a CFL question. I just want to thank you so very much for showing me what CFLs can do in a small box like that...I plan to use a box like urs with CFLs untill i get some more money for HPS (parents have a bunch of CFL lights in basement so i dont spend anything) Now that I was lucky enough to have found your thread I will be following exactly what you did and am very excited about getting good results..This is my first grow and have no idea really what to expect just did a lot of reasearch and now gonna try but the point im trying to make is You and Jed have saved me so much time and money by posting this that I can never truly thank you
Thanks again Bro
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stonesour
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wow, this is exactly why I have journals and putting my grows online!! Thanks man, that mean alot to me. If you have any questions or need any advice feel free to shoot me a message and ill be more than happy to help as much as I can. Happy growing!!!Hey Stone
This is my first post and figured I would give it in this thread..I stumpled upon your journal when looking at a more recent post about a CFL question. I just want to thank you so very much for showing me what CFLs can do in a small box like that...I plan to use a box like urs with CFLs untill i get some more money for HPS (parents have a bunch of CFL lights in basement so i dont spend anything) Now that I was lucky enough to have found your thread I will be following exactly what you did and am very excited about getting good results..This is my first grow and have no idea really what to expect just did a lot of reasearch and now gonna try but the point im trying to make is You and Jed have saved me so much time and money by posting this that I can never truly thank you
Thanks again Bro
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stonesour
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wood, screws, 12/2 wire and a shit load of sockets....oh and white paint too!!! lol. If you need a material list and a breakdown of how to fabricate this box, I can get it together for ya. I mean it took some time and it wasnt that cheap so if your interested in building it and not on a strict budget let me know!!! Thanks for stopping by.
Hashbob Potpants
Member
Hey man niceeeee grow! What kind of nutes did you roll with on these ladies?
stonesour
Well-Known Member
I used the fox farm nutes and schedule, Worked pretty good. I made a few mistakes and ended up locking the plants out of calcium and magnesium because I was over feeding them. They turned out alright though so Im happy!! Thanks for the comment!!!
Hashbob Potpants
Member
Yeah man for sure! Its really nice seeing a dank ass cfl grow go on. Way more cost efficient. Also i have a little grow of my own going on and i was worried cfls wouldnt yield the best but i guess not! Where did you order your beans? This is my first indoor grow and i want to do it the best i can. By looking at yours, you know whats going so any info is much appreciated!