UncleBuck
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you're full of shit.
http://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html#1
law is written up and summarized for easy understanding, lawyers explaining it and everything.
"Stand Your Ground" laws, are they a good, or bad idea?
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http://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html#1
law is written up and summarized for easy understanding, lawyers explaining it and everything.
UncleBuck
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UncleBuck
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how do you guys come up with such clever replies?
really, i'm going to have to cry myself to bed tonight, such is the level of my hurt.
Oh OK I get it now
When you do it its OK but when someone else does it its not cool.
Such a double standard with you liberals
UncleBuck
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OMFG what a crybaby.
it's OK to return fire with fire, but at least be creative.
your blathering takes all the mental might that a retarded wombat could muster.
Canna Sylvan
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"1. reasonably believe that you are in imminent danger of being killed, seriously injured, or unlawfully touched,
‪2.‬believe that immediate force is necessary to prevent that danger, and
‪3.‬use no more force than necessary to defend against that danger.1"
Those immediate and imminent danger are on your site. Also, the woman stabbing her rapist over 100 times violates #3.
So how am I full of shit? The "victim" (quotes for liberals) has to prove 1 and 2. Is your life reasonably in danger imminently, meaning now not the maybe future, if a guy is standing 30 feet away in your house with a knife, 15 feet, 5 feet? Those are what the "victim" has to prove against the guy just doing his job stealing your shit.
Why is it no more than necessary force? You need to use more than necessary to make sure the fucker is dead. Knocked unconscious, shot in the leg, etc isn't good enough. The guy is crazy enough to illegally enter my home, I trust this guy to act rationally? I'm unloading the full clip in the dude the moment I see the knife drawn in my house. Doesn't matter if he's 30 yards away. I don't stop shooting until I know 100% he's dead. Dead men can't harm you.
So again how am I full of shit? Anyone illegally in my house goes out in a body bag. Then it's up to me to prove myself of what I did to the douche. That's why we need laws that state you can use any amount of force against these so called bad guys according to liberals. Because liberals are too stupid to know what a threat is and give bullshit requirements like imminent, immediate and necessary only force. Fuck that!
Red1966
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Creative: Call them gay or retard
ginjawarrior
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a guy in you house with a knife would enough for 1 + 2
what is it that gives you a hard on for unloading a clip of bullets into an unconscious body?
without stand your ground you can do anything to defend yourself when necessary.
the bit where you want the right to mutilate unconscious bodies for your own amusement is where the line is on this partisan issue
Illegal Smile
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What libruls really want is for there to be NO guns and for you to have NO defense.
ginjawarrior
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really? got evidence for that?
Illegal Smile
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There are plenty of libruls out there openly admitting just that.
ginjawarrior
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shouldnt be that hard for you to find some quotes then should it?
UncleBuck
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i am fully supportive of the second amendment.
as for no defense, you're talking to a guy on 24 hour greenhouse patrol. i know a little about defense. if my state had SYG laws, one of two things would happen:
1) i'd have gotten ripped anyway. guns are of no use when thieves on your property are stealthy enough.
2) i'd have a dead teenage kid in my greenhouse over vegging plants. do you really think the 14 veg plants i have lost are worth a stupid teenager's life?
defense is security. prevention, determent, vigilance. offense is stand your ground. just look at the cases where it has become a controversy.
"i'm safe in my home, but some guys are robbing my neighbor's house while he is not home and the cops are 30 seconds away. i'm going to grab my rifle, leave my house, shoot them dead, and walk." - joe horn
"i'm safe in my truck, but some kid is walking around in the rain and the cops are on their way. i had better actively pursue him several times, confront him, and shoot him dead if anything escalates. i'll say i was standing my ground when i left my place of security." - george zimmerman
the two men joe horn shot dead posed no threat to his life or property. the kid that george zimmerman shot down was not even stealing anything, he was just walking around.
why people feel that proactive deadly force is a good idea baffle me. that they start threads praising proactive deadly force is beyond me.
i would never employ deadly force unless it was the last option. even then, i would try my best to disable rather than kill. after i told my neighbor about the GH break ins, she let on that she had killed a home invader some years ago, and that it haunted her for a decade. she had nightmares for years on end. imagine if that were just a dumb kid who tried to steal some veg plants worth a total of $100 or so.
by the way, i never hear you SYG people say the same thing about what happened in waco. as fucked up as that was on both sides, you guys say it is better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6. shouldn't that apply to waco as well? shouldn't they have just submitted to the search warrant and tried it rather than fight a suicide battle?
fuck all of you homicidal maniacs. every human life is just as worthy of protection and regard as every other human life. you already have every right to defend your life when necessary without SYG. stop encouraging this vigilantism and psychopathy.
Illegal Smile
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UncleBuck
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name me all of the anti-second amendment actions this administration has taken.
ALL OF THEM.
i will now sit back and enjoy a good laugh. eventually. even if it happens by me rubbing this one in your face.
RawBudzski
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Would not work in California, PPL already Stand there Ground and get killed. Imagine them being promoted too. >.<