So, is this what to expect for the future?

indeed, iam using Firefox as well, so i would guess 1-3 are probably being caused by your browser (i would assume your on IE, or possibly a mac os browser? is Netscape or Safari still around anymore? lol).

anyways, i would try moving to firefox, that would clear up the first 3 for sure, and depending on the browser you are using, it may improve things in many other areas as well (dont get me wrong firefox aint what it used to be, but its still generally better than most of its competition).

Uncle Ben said:

Something is fishy. My best guess is someone sold it and the new owner doesn't know shit about programming.

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you know i love how you say "someone sold it"...

does anyone perhaps believe that the people who "bought" RIU could be... the Law?!

i mean that truly would make a LOT of sense. and ESPECIALLY after hearing you say that ALL SIX of the old forums are "defunct" as you said -- what if the Law is getting their hands in this?

just an idea...

I have a suggestion for ya admin

how about extending the same privledges as a paid doner to those of us that generate traffic, folks like myself and uncle ben ???

if there was a way to pay I already would have !!!

as for the script, I use IE8 and am having no problems at all with the site itself, on an older puter with IE6 it looks terrible

The problem is that Internet Explorer sucks, and always has. It is standard practice for web developers to code for web-standards compliant browsers, like Chrome and Firefox, and then go back and fix errors for different versions of IE. My guess is that things got rushed and they didn't go back and recode for IE. Even IE 8 shows this page without a "reply" button, or the multi quote button, just "reply with quote".

It could be that these people that set the site up fast and dipped out. CMS software like vBulletin doesn't usually grant admins, or mods, access to the files that would let you fix some of these issues. It would most likely have to be the original web developers, or some paid maintenance developer that would have to fix them.

You could just save yourself the trouble of having to wait for the site to be fixed by downloading Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox, and then you can view the site as it was meant to be see, plus you get the added benefit of not supporting shitty browsers like IE. I use Chrome because it starts up in less than one second, whereas FF and IE take a few seconds; you get more screen space; and it's lighter on your processor, which means you crash less. *edit - and websites always work on it (though they always worked with FF).

IE is not too bad although I hate all Bill Gates' products, and that includes IE. I'll DL and try FireFox. Did not have any problems with a Mozilla browser, Sea Monkey on the first version.

riddleme said:

I have a suggestion for ya admin

how about extending the same privledges as a paid doner to those of us that generate traffic, folks like myself and uncle ben ???

if there was a way to pay I already would have !!!

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agreed.

YES ME TOO!!! but nooo.

Uncle Ben said:

IE is not too bad although I hate all Bill Gates' products, and that includes IE. I'll DL and try FireFox. Did not have any problems with a Mozilla browser, Sea Monkey on the first version.

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hey hope it works bud, would hate to see simple problems like that make a valuable member like yourself want to leave. let us know how it goes!

KlosetKing said:

so UB, i was curious, what browser are you using? cookies enabled? i mean, not to harsh on your mellow (or lack there of lol), cuz i agree i don't like the site as much after the change, but i noticed you listed problems i do not have. I.E. i am replying to this post with the reply with quote link, not the multiple quote. i don't see the garbage on the right hand side of MyRollitup? and images still show up fine, though if i move my mouse off the image (which seems pretty easy to do) the image will disappear and go back to the thread. in fact, of the four, the only one that occurs for me, is of course the thread editing which is by far the BIGGEST downfall of the site so far (i don't really wanna get into the topic of deleting accounts).

just curious bro, as thinking that these problems just may be an issue with the browser you are using or possibly some setting you have
-KK

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Never had such issues before.

Uncle Ben said:

Never had such issues before.

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dont take this as a flame. i accept you as a ganja god.... but iam a bit of an IT junkie (i have a BA in information tech and design, minor in networking tech), and i know first hand that these things dont stay stable. in fact far from it. just because the browser has been fine until now, doesnt mean it isnt the browser now. all it takes is a hotfix, a change in RIU, hell even malicious software or corrupt files, to break something. and those are just tip of the iceberg scenarios, it could be something much deeper (even something like a video driver corruption can cause that 'junk' your referring to, depending on where in the code it is occurring). The only reason i think it is on your end, is because 3/4 of your problems are specific to you, and not everyone or even most people on the forum itself.

again, iam not trying to incite any anger in ya. far from it, i want to help ya so we (or at least I) dont lose a valuable source on my now favorite forum. Hope things start workin better for ya. On a personal note, ty for all your contributions to the site, youve been a fountain of information and inspiration for me, and i only hope that someday i grow half as well as you do.

-KK

KK maybe you could suggest some steps UB could take to resolve some of his issues ...rob

It is what it is, si'.

robert 14617 said:

KK maybe you could suggest some steps UB could take to resolve some of his issues ...rob

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i did but he didnt get back to me about how the other browsers worked. if they didnt, i would start with the basics of pc maintenance. i start with a good sweep of both AdAware and Spybot S&D (between the 2 they pick just about anything up) then clean up disks, defrags, check driver updates for all hardware, NIC, video card, any peripherals I.E. if you happen to be using sata cards (for going from PCI > SATA). if none of this works, i would reformat, reinstall OS, then start fresh with all newest drivers as stated above. Also, make sure you have the latest versions of things like Flash, .NET Framework, and hell even DirectX. best to just cover all bases at once.

honestly i think this is overboard though, in my professional experience, i would say it is almost 90% guaranteed to be the browser or a setting in the browser (though it is probably not cookies since you dont seem to be having a problem staying logged in or anything?). If you truly are curious and want some personal assistance with it, go ahead and PM me UB. I would be more than happy to do anything i could to help. keep in mind though, i am not TERRIBLY familiar with macs, though they aren't a stranger either, and from how it sounds, you very well may be on a mac?

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i did but he didnt get back to me about how the other browsers worked. if they didnt, i would start with the basics of pc maintenance. i start with a good sweep of both AdAware and Spybot S&D (between the 2 they pick just about anything up) then clean up disks, defrags, check driver updates for all hardware, NIC, video card, any peripherals I.E. if you happen to be using sata cards (for going from PCI > SATA). if none of this works, i would reformat, reinstall OS, then start fresh with all newest drivers as stated above. Also, make sure you have the latest versions of things like Flash, .NET Framework, and hell even DirectX. best to just cover all bases at once.

honestly i think this is overboard though, in my professional experience, i would say it is almost 90% guaranteed to be the browser or a setting in the browser (though it is probably not cookies since you dont seem to be having a problem staying logged in or anything?). If you truly are curious and want some personal assistance with it, go ahead and PM me UB. I would be more than happy to do anything i could to help. keep in mind though, i am not TERRIBLY familiar with macs, though they aren't a stranger either, and from how it sounds, you very well may be on a mac?

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IE works fine. I hate MS products, but it looks like I'm stuck to using IE with this "update". Still, compared to the original version which worked very well browsing with SeaMonkey, a Mozilla suite, this is pretty lame. BTW, I've been doing computers including building them while most of you fellers were messin' in your drawers. I started with IBM PC back in the days when 64K of RAM was a bunch.

Thanks,
UB

Tio i'll be hitting you up for comp advice in the future along with the grow ....rob

Uncle Ben said:

IE works fine. I hate MS products, but it looks like I'm stuck to using IE with this "update". Still, compared to the original version which worked very well browsing with SeaMonkey, a Mozilla suite, this is pretty lame. BTW, I've been doing computers including building them while most of you fellers were messin' in your drawers. I started with IBM PC back in the days when 64K of RAM was a bunch.

Thanks,
UB

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did not mean to imply you didn't understand them. only meant to imply that it is my business to know them in and out. far too often you find people who say 'it doesn't work' over and over again, but really don't understand why, have little understanding of what they are using, and often times get to angry in their own confusion to ever find the solution. we call it 'old man syndrome' at my work, and we see it everyday. just last week i was doing a house call for a guy in his mid forties who couldn't figure out why his internet didn't work. well he yelled and screamed on the phone about how hes tried it all and it isn't working. we make the house call (at around 70 bucks an hour). i walk in, boot up his pc and router, log in using the factory defaults, enable DHCP, and all is fine. he paid us 70 dollars for less than 5 minutes of work. of course, this only made him angrier, and as i am walking out of the house hes screaming 'iam not paying you guys a full hour for this horseshit! that's bullshit! fuck you..." etc etc. i could only laugh. he very much will pay us for that 5 minutes, because he couldn't control his anger on the phone long enough to actually listen to the steps we were giving him to resolve the issue (we knew 2 days prior exactly what the problem was, but when we tried to talk him through it on the phone, he would get angry and hang up on us. then call us around 5 hours later asking for more help, get angry, hang up....

so no, i did not mean to imply you didn't know what was going on, but i did mean to imply that you are experiencing issues that no one else is, on top of issues other people are. and this points to something on your end. i don't mean to direct any of this at you in particular, but as someone who has a degree in this field, and VERY MUCH knows what hes doing, it irks me in a way that i cannot even begin to describe when i hear things like 'ive been messing with computers since you were in diapers'. computers are not what they were then, in fact, they are much more complicated now.iam sure you would feel the same way if someone came to you and told you that they had been growing since you were in diapers, and no matter what your experience was, they had been on earth longer than you and that was somehow relevant to the situation. ive built/maintained thousands of computers over the last decade, and i was only trying to be nice and help.

good luck UB....
-KK

Uncle Ben said:

IE works fine. I hate MS products, but it looks like I'm stuck to using IE with this "update".

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I'm not sure what you mean by being stuck with IE because of an update. I have IE on my computer, but I never use it. If I do use it I have all sorts of problems on different website. I also have Firefox. That is the browser I use all the time, especially on websites with lots of options like forums. Have you tried Firefox yet? How can you say IE works fine if you are having all these troubles and everyone running firefox doesn't?

Firefox is a very easy download
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/upgrade.html

iam sure he knows whats going on, hes been 'doing' computers since we were in diapers =P

I've been using GOOGLE 'CHROME' it looks fine, things are going ok now but I don't like the way if you type in the search bar for a specific or for that matter un-specific searche ie/ :- Led grow, or 600w MH, nothing is returned??? In the old version keywords would easily bring up a whole list of threads with no problem at all! Another point is How about having DATE AND TIME on messages as to when they were added to a thread etc... And here's an idea maybe all the points we earn could count towards different skins as a reward for our thread pages etc... instead of stating how stoned we could potentially be nothing wrong with the 'stoner' type headings but a reward for being 'clued up' such as new skins and art work would not only visually make a difference but also make each viewers thread etc more personal, possibly even an option to upload your own................If you have earned thousands of points etc ??? -Just some idea's to improve! hope this helps - STELTHY

well, I have old man syndrome, like UB I have been messing with puters forever, I ran BBS's before the internet started, I do componet level repair on motherboards (yes I change chips, not boards) in my current job, fluent in dos, unix, linx and all of the windows (don't do mac)

Just want to point out that not all of us old farts are computer stupid

riddleme said:

well, I have old man syndrome, like UB I have been messing with puters forever, I ran BBS's before the internet started, I do componet level repair on motherboards (yes I change chips, not boards) in my current job, fluent in dos, unix, linx and all of the windows (don't do mac)

Just want to point out that not all of us old farts are computer stupid

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and i do apologize, as i do not find or think that either of you are stupid, and did not mean to imply it. to do that in my eyes would be just as bad as the statement that drew such a response from me. i was merely using an example as to how age doesn't necessarily mean anything, albeit i may have been better off to not take the comment so personally. again, sorry if it sounded like i was stereotyping or personally attacking anyone, it was not my intent.