Single HSO Fem Blue Dream in Coco Coir - Photon 180V LED

714steadyeddie

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Yea droopy plants is not ok.. even after you water they shouldn't get too droopy. With coco at least, they like more frequent waterings but with less amount. That's why they thrive in drip systems.

Coco coir is a medium that has NO nutes in it. The grower is in complete charge of what goes in (and what goes out) so with every plain watering you are throwing out all the nutes you feed her last watering that the roots didn't get too. Coco coir is a bank, when you deposit nutes it stores what's leftover. When you plain water you clean it out. Took me one whole run to figure a little system out.

I water my 3 gal pot let's say maybe 3 times a week. I go by weight usually when they weigh at least 50% lighter then when I feed them I will feed her. But when I water its about a 1 gallon feed at 850 PPM. And I have some light run off. Maybe 10-15%

That's with cal mag already in and ph up. My Ph is usually at 5.8 sometimes 6.2 max. Here's the trick tho when I water I split that one gallon into two feeds in the same day. First feed is 30mins when the light goes on, second is 30mins before the lights turn off. I am religious with this schedule. With coco these small details Matter. All those PPms matter.

Every time I water she never drops I always aim to keep her in the "praying leaves" position. I think thats when the ladies are saying they are the healthiest.

Just my two cents, it's better to really understand coco , that way next time you know exactly where to pin point the problem hope this helps.
 

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714steadyeddie

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Day 35, I watered her yesterday, after realizing how terrible she looked.. With the manufacturers dosages (From the back of the different nutes) instead of the guide I've been following all along, and it looks like it helped..

Thanks to everyone who chimed in! :) Much appreciated!

But just keep feeding her steady, they show results fast. If she's hungry keep feeding her but try less waterings more frequently. Small doses small run off.
 

Trippyness

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Coco is a learning process.
I used to feed when they would get dryer every 3rd day in veg and every other in flower. Now I feed 3 x a day but small amounts per feed. Example, if I would feed a 3 gallon 1/2 gallon a day I would section thos e feedings into 3 parts throughout the day.
Seeds an incredible increase in growth.
As for directions of nutrients, always half it and go from there or 1/4 for seedlings etc.
 

HandyGringo

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Yea droopy plants is not ok.. even after you water they shouldn't get too droopy. With coco at least, they like more frequent waterings but with less amount. That's why they thrive in drip systems.

Coco coir is a medium that has NO nutes in it. The grower is in complete charge of what goes in (and what goes out) so with every plain watering you are throwing out all the nutes you feed her last watering that the roots didn't get too. Coco coir is a bank, when you deposit nutes it stores what's leftover. When you plain water you clean it out. Took me one whole run to figure a little system out.

I water my 3 gal pot let's say maybe 3 times a week. I go by weight usually when they weigh at least 50% lighter then when I feed them I will feed her. But when I water its about a 1 gallon feed at 850 PPM. And I have some light run off. Maybe 10-15%

That's with cal mag already in and ph up. My Ph is usually at 5.8 sometimes 6.2 max. Here's the trick tho when I water I split that one gallon into two feeds in the same day. First feed is 30mins when the light goes on, second is 30mins before the lights turn off. I am religious with this schedule. With coco these small details Matter. All those PPms matter.

Every time I water she never drops I always aim to keep her in the "praying leaves" position. I think thats when the ladies are saying they are the healthiest.

Just my two cents, it's better to really understand coco , that way next time you know exactly where to pin point the problem hope this helps.
Thanks for the tip man, I'm going to change up my waterings and start watering like you recommend. I'm not sure if I'm going to be doing the twice a day watering, simply because I don't have the time, maybe some day!

And I'm really trying to avoid investing in a ppm meter, I hear so many people growing successfully without.. I'll probably end up doing it.

But just keep feeding her steady, they show results fast. If she's hungry keep feeding her but try less waterings more frequently. Small doses small run off.
Will do! Thanks.. I'm just afraid to overfeed. I'd rather underfeed a bit than overfeeding, but I guess I have been underfeeding a bit too much..


Coco is a learning process.
I used to feed when they would get dryer every 3rd day in veg and every other in flower. Now I feed 3 x a day but small amounts per feed. Example, if I would feed a 3 gallon 1/2 gallon a day I would section thos e feedings into 3 parts throughout the day.
Seeds an incredible increase in growth.
As for directions of nutrients, always half it and go from there or 1/4 for seedlings etc.
Another vouch for the frequent small waterings.. Guess I'll have to give it a go..

But why half nutes? I hear everyone say this..
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I could be wrong on the plain water throwing off coco but I'm pretty sure I came across that while researching coco before I made the switch to it. And I suggested 50% strength because the plants were stressed so no need for full strength. Cheers and hope she finishes well for you
 

Afgan King

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I could be wrong on the plain water throwing off coco but I'm pretty sure I came across that while researching coco before I made the switch to it. And I suggested 50% strength because the plants were stressed so no need for full strength. Cheers and hope she finishes well for you
I use tap water granted it's pretty damn good tho for tap water like 70-80ppm year round so not bad by any means
 

HandyGringo

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Check out Green Genes grows on youtube, he's in coco, and I believe he only flushes like twice per cycle. I know @Afgan King uses coco, and kills it every time. Maybe he will chime in.
Checking it out, cheers! And thanks!

I could be wrong on the plain water throwing off coco but I'm pretty sure I came across that while researching coco before I made the switch to it. And I suggested 50% strength because the plants were stressed so no need for full strength. Cheers and hope she finishes well for you
I fed them full strength just when they went droopy, I hope I didn't overfeed. Would suck getting a nuteburn now.. And thanks man, I'm almost sure she will.

I use tap water granted it's pretty damn good tho for tap water like 70-80ppm year round so not bad by any means
Do you do plain waterings though? Like every second watering or something? Just to avoid salt buildups? Or do you use nutrients every time?
 

HandyGringo

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Update day 36, still recovering. Plucked a lot of dead leaves, only tiny ones. Most of the leaves are yellow, but after the big feed yesterday I'm sure she'll recover. From now on I'll feed with nutes every time, after so many people recommended it, over plain waterings.

I promise it's a new picture, even though it's the exact same angle etc!



I feed every 3rd day normally no waterings all feeds

Ice will bring out all the fall colors in your plants
That's what I was doing, but with a watering every other day. Do you have any idea why my plant was showing symptoms of overwatering?
 

Yodaweed

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Update day 36, still recovering. Plucked a lot of dead leaves, only tiny ones. Most of the leaves are yellow, but after the big feed yesterday I'm sure she'll recover. From now on I'll feed with nutes every time, after so many people recommended it, over plain waterings.

I promise it's a new picture, even though it's the exact same angle etc!





That's what I was doing, but with a watering every other day. Do you have any idea why my plant was showing symptoms of overwatering?
Did you cut your coco with perlite? I always did 50/50 coco/ perlite , even in coco roots need oxygen.
 

HandyGringo

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Update day 37 - Watered her again with 50% nutes, loads of runoff.. So maybe too early for a watering? I'm kinda conflicted about it now, I don't want to under or overwater again..

Also, plucked all the leaves that were "dead" or dangling. created a lollypop effect. I don't mind, but I hope she can thrive with so few leaves..The buds look fine.

Also, question.. The pistils are getting a very light brown hue.. Is that a good or a bad thing?



 

Jubilant

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Grow is looking great friend! I wouldn't worry about the pistils my strain is only a 3rd the way through flowering and I have many more orange/brown pistils. You gunna leave those little girls in the shade, or pluck them too?
 

HandyGringo

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Grow is looking great friend! I wouldn't worry about the pistils my strain is only a 3rd the way through flowering and I have many more orange/brown pistils. You gunna leave those little girls in the shade, or pluck them too?
Thanks man, and what little girls are you thinking of? ^^
 

Jubilant

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Thanks man, and what little girls are you thinking of? ^^
Those little buds around where you "lollipopped" under your canopy doesn't look like they get too much light. With how far along the top buds are I would assume those aren't amounting to much, I may be totally wrong though :rolleyes:
 

HandyGringo

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Those little buds around where you "lollipopped" under your canopy doesn't look like they get too much light. With how far along the top buds are I would assume those aren't amounting to much, I may be totally wrong though :rolleyes:
Those tiny ones? Or the big one?



I don't think it would many any difference removing any of it tbh. Do you?
 
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