Sign and tshirt ideas for the Sept 7th rally in Lansing.

fluffygrrrl said:

How bout using their very own tea party speak..I like this one...KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY HEALTH CARE!!

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Do it. I'm a TEA Party supporter and Bill Schuette is violating all the reasons the TEA Party started. Remind him of that. Here's the TEA PArty mission statement:



Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values
By Scott Boston - Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

Core Values
* Fiscal Responsibility
* Constitutionally Limited Government
* Free Markets

Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject its citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations.

Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law.

Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were indivisible, as do we. Our current government's interference distorts the free market and inhibits the pursuit of individual and economic liberty. Therefore, we support a return to the free market principles on which this nation was founded and oppose government intervention into the operations of private business.

sheapdog420 said:

Do it. I'm a TEA Party supporter and Bill Schuette is violating all the reasons the TEA Party started. Remind him of that. Here's the TEA PArty mission statement:



Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values
By Scott Boston - Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

Core Values
* Fiscal Responsibility
* Constitutionally Limited Government
* Free Markets

Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject its citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations.

Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law.

Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were indivisible, as do we. Our current government's interference distorts the free market and inhibits the pursuit of individual and economic liberty. Therefore, we support a return to the free market principles on which this nation was founded and oppose government intervention into the operations of private business.

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OK this has put me over the edge to the point where I need to say something and if anyone cares or not I no longer care…

This whole ideology is just insane and stonewalls the facts that lay in our own American history. Do you know why our country took the path of success it did even out of our own shortcomings? FEDERAL TAXES. Do you remember the living conditions of people in the industrial revolution era? Well if you don’t things weren’t going so well. Unsafe work conditions and child labor and people going home to cramped low income housing that by todays standards would be condemned. The federal income tax act of 1913 was a huge jump to changing that lifestyle. The ability of the government to be able to reinvest the money that had been taxed into social programs and grants for creating new business and other programs to help the country grow. You know what happened with taxes in the years that lead up to the great depression? Oh yea they were fought against and were made smaller and smaller and next thing you know the great depression… the country cant even supply basic services for its growing society.

“Federal taxes were expanded greatly during World War I. In 1921, wealthy industrialist and then Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon engineered a series of significant income tax cuts under three presidents. Mellon argued that tax cuts would spur growth.[77] The last such cut in 1928 was followed by the Great Depression in 1929. Taxes were raised again in the latter part of the Depression, and during World War II. Income tax rates were reduced significantly during the Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan Presidencies. Significant tax cuts for corporations and upper income individuals were enacted during the second Bush Presidency.” Wiki -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_States

Can you see the picture im trying to paint in your head the only reason we recovered our economies in anytime of distress was increasing taxes. Production in world war one and two would have never gone the way that they did economically without business taxes being reinvested into grants that were given to those businesses in the first place. The only reason that we are in our shoes today is the decrease in taxes once again were made smaller and smaller and next thing you know we have a upswing in the 90’s with a surplus the size of our deficit today. Some people at the top said no I want all of my stuff but you still have to give yours up. Tax decrease and deregulation…… all of it pools at the top never to trickle down the way it was supposed to… ooops corporate America. The only reason this country ever hit its pinnacle or is to ever hit a higher pinnacle then it once did is taxes. Don’t be so selfish be a patriot and pay your taxes because this country gave you the opportunity to be the person you are today in the first place. 1st world problems……the tea party has them. Just count your stars you were lucky enough out of 6.7ish billion people to be born in a country that can actually support itself… or you could be unlucky enough to end up in a napkin never to see life itself. Taxes can be debated and should be debated but a NO MEANS NO approach is only adding ice to this slippery slope that we are flying down so fast.

The end. I feel better.

i totally agree-

i think you should pay more too.

Murfy said:

i totally agree-

i think you should pay more too.

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I have no issue doing that. Its a civil responsibility to do what ever it takes to recover this country ecspecialy since time and time again this is the thing that has worked and the other option can always be at least linked to economic problems. The only thing making it worse is the ideology of dragging and stomping their feet to get a piece of candy at the grocery store.

and so can the companies that paid their ceos more then their taxes (then most of those ceos pay close to nothing on their own taxes). The ideology behind the tea party is straight out of pre industrial America. That didnt even have major inter state businesses it was all mom and pop shops but thats obviously NOT the case today. The interpretation of the constitution is based on the current social situation not when a country was being built at a rate thousands of times slower then today that was the frame workers intentions that is why they gave the constitution the ability to change and adapt in the future. On top of the fact that if you try to get a history lesson from tea party members or even their leaders theres always something inaccurate. When Bachman said that Paul Revere went to warn the British is was taken as gospel among her supporters.... seriously?

No guy, the tea partiers are always right, didn't you know? Paul Revere warned those naughty British soldiers that they weren't gonna take away our arms as he rang his bell, shooting his musket, and riding his horse all at the same time. At least Sarah Palin told me so....and I know she, just like the rest of the tea party supporters, only speaks the truth. Jeez, get your history right guy

I mean isnt taxing pot one of the huge arguments for the MMJ and the Legalizing movements? just sayin.

a just tax-

the fuckin taxes now are stupid. i mean a pack of marlboros cost 87 cents.

that'll be 6.85! wtf.

most of my working life i've paid 30% or better. FOR THIS. i can totally see your point.LOL.

i'd say the argument is against taxes-

let's put it at 10% straight for awhile and see what that does?

Murfy said:

posing-

is what that would be called.

unless of course you regularly wear a suit.

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That's not called posing, it's called being a man. If you don't have a single dress shirt and tie in your closet, you're a chick. Every man on the planet has a shirt and tie. The only people who would call dressing appropriate for an event posing is a high-school age 'non-conformist', hot-topic type. Would you wear overalls to funeral? No. Why not? Because it's disrespectful to the deceased. Coming to the rally dressed as a bum is equally disrespectful to our cause.

The whole tea party concept is flawed with hypocrisy and double speak. When it comes down to it, they're just another radical faction of the republican party with even worse ideas. If I remember correctly they want to dissolve the department of education, social security, medicare, and just about every government program without even considering the repercussions of such actions simply out of blind stupid ideology. I won't even get started on health care reform....some people just can't be helped and those are the sorry individuals that comprise the tea party. Honestly, who in their right mind would want to be represented by michelle bachman and sarah palin?

Murfy said:

a just tax-

the fuckin taxes now are stupid. i mean a pack of marlboros cost 87 cents.

that'll be 6.85! wtf.

most of my working life i've paid 30% or better. FOR THIS. i can totally see your point.LOL.

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Thats not the taxes fault that is tax cuts at the top that effect you and me cause guess who picks up the burden we do! There needs to be more distribution of taxes due at the top cause that's how this country was back then when the country that Sarah Palin calls the good ol days.... you know when she was a child and had no understanding of how the world actually worked at that point in time from her viewpoint. I agree we shouldnt have to pay 30% but the tea partiers and republicans are cutting taxes on the corporations that could take the tax hike and have virtually no ill effect to the company. Profits would be down slightly and temporarily if every major corporation has to pick up the same amount of taxes as the other corporation around the country every one is back on a even playing field... NOW THAT IS FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY REALIZING THE THINGS EVERYONE has to SACRIFICE for OUR country not just the FEW. Do families NEED to eat? Yes Do Billionaires and Huge corporations really need the extra money that get paid by the government instead of paying taxes? No they would actually be a business that supports itself and doesn't welch off the government just like the conservatives see the poor as money suckers.

This me me me stuff has to get the f out of peoples heads its greed and greed is what brings down empires the bubble has to burst at some point if it keeps getting filled with greed.

When you think of why people hate huge corporations on every side of the spectrum what do you think... oh their greedy

The tea partiers want to what? oh yea deregulate and decrease taxes on huge corporations... how and why does that make sense. That is like giving a ungodly amount of crack to a crack head it will last for a long time but once its gone its gone and thats when all of the money sits at the top and living standards lower at ever increasing rates for 99% of the population.

Damn if I didn't have plans on Sept 7 I would drive there and take pics.

The difference from what everyone praises and says they are going to do and what actually goes down are two completely different worlds. I would suspect that if they did what they intended to do they might make some sort of minor statement, instead they usually end up like morons, hippies and space cadets chanting 4:20 (or better yet lining up leads on illegal cannabis activity *gasp*) or something as stupid.

The statements and planning is commended, but the execution (which really is the most important part) well not so much...

so you're saying the representatives- deserve the same respect as your dead grandmother-

sorry smurffette. acting out of character, i9ntentionally to seem like something you're not, is posing.

I think there's a fungus among us

r1tony said:

Damn if I didn't have plans on Sept 7 I would drive there and take pics.

The difference from what everyone praises and says they are going to do and what actually goes down are two completely different worlds. I would suspect that if they did what they intended to do they might make some sort of minor statement, instead they usually end up like morons, hippies and space cadets chanting 4:20 (or better yet lining up leads on illegal cannabis activity *gasp*) or something as stupid.

The statements and planning is commended, but the execution (which really is the most important part) well not so much...

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i stopped reading when you said you "had plans" -i planned to protest.

If you vote against the WILL of the PEOPLE
The PEOPLE WILL vote against YOU!

stumpjumper said:

I was joking.... lol

I'm proibably going to wear shorts and a t-shirt. Sorry guys. It'll probably be 95' with 80 humidity. Have fun in your suits.

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I know that!!

jesus of Cannabis said:

De-criminalize before legalization (or legalize)

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r1tony said:

Damn if I didn't have plans on Sept 7 I would drive there and take pics.

The difference from what everyone praises and says they are going to do and what actually goes down are two completely different worlds. I would suspect that if they did what they intended to do they might make some sort of minor statement, instead they usually end up like morons, hippies and space cadets chanting 4:20 (or better yet lining up leads on illegal cannabis activity *gasp*) or something as stupid.

The statements and planning is commended, but the execution (which really is the most important part) well not so much...

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as a person with migraine issues I can understand what its like but I think that maybe you confuse a headache with a migraine. Anyone i know that has real migraines couldnt, wouldnt and shouldnt go out in the sunlight even for the 2nd coming of Christ. But I admire your modesty as you admire tonys positive attitude.