Side by Side by Side - help me pick nute #2 & #3

I'm just finishing up my new setup at my new place.
I'm waiting for some stuff from china and waiting for my 3 mom's to be big enough for cuttings.

Shortly after the 1st of the year I should be ready to start vegging the babes.

Water: Well, Filtered, around 200PPM, Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron mostly.

Nute 1 (my default): GH MaxiGro, MaxiBloom, KoolBloom

Nutes 2 and 3: Currently top in my mind: DynaGro, Advanced Nutes (I don't know, don't like them, but have to try some time right?), GH 3 part

Strains: Sour Diesel, Cheese, Heavyweight Fruit Punch

Room will be setup with rows (1 per strain), reservoirs will be staggered (res 1 will have back row on left side of room, middle row in center of room, front row in right side of room, and similar for res 2 and 3), so each nute gets fair light exposure.

Lighting: DIY high power LED (7500 lumen/sqft) + UV (tanning bulbs)

Spacing: 1.33 SQFT per plant.

DWC, 4 gallon square buckets, 9.5" square net pots, hydroton.


Help me pick nutes 2 and 3. I will share pictures once I have it setup and figure out how to anonymize them.

Advanced nutrients is solid. Don't need the whole line. Big bud, b52 and overdrive and the base of your choice.

Cyco is good too. Same thing don't need whole line. B1 boost, potash plus and swell.

I use a additive called Ersa Elixir with both lines , I have never ran them without, so thought I would mention that.

I could also be tempted to just do 2 nutes and have one res be 50/50.

I say dyna-gro. I've done side by sides with sister clones using GH, technaflora, and dyna. I now use only dyna-gro products, nuff said.

polo the don said:

I say dyna-gro. I've done side by sides with sister clones using GH, technaflora, and dyna. I now use only dyna-gro products, nuff said.

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From my reading I was very interested in dyna-gro. That's why it was #1 on my list, we can lock that one in.

I see Grow, Bloom, but nothing similar to KoolBloom (ripening).

Carolina Dream'n said:

Advanced nutrients is solid. Don't need the whole line. Big bud, b52 and overdrive and the base of your choice.

Cyco is good too. Same thing don't need whole line. B1 boost, potash plus and swell.

I use a additive called Ersa Elixir with both lines , I have never ran them without, so thought I would mention that.

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I'm confused looking at AN, and I think it's designed that way.

Base: Everything the plant should need assuming it falls within the norm.
Supplements: Individual parts of the base available to add if your specific pheno demands it
Other: Either brand new, should be in the base soon, or bullshit

If I have to buy 6 or more different overpriced AN products to get what I call a base, we can exclude them. I'm looking for a standard 3, maybe 4 part system. If I'm going to the extent of making my own mix I will start with the pure powders, not a bunch of supplement bottles. If I need a supplement I just call my buddy who thinks every hydro product is awesome and ask him to bring a MiO bottle full of it over.

Mine always looks better than his, I only use the rooting and floralicious supplements the hydro shop guy is always giving handfuls of samples for free..

Anyway, does such a system exist from AN, or can I exclude them now?

Thinking AMhydro or Jack's Pro now.

nomofatum said:

From my reading I was very interested in dyna-gro. That's why it was #1 on my list, we can lock that one in.

I see Grow, Bloom, but nothing similar to KoolBloom (ripening).

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I don't think they have one for ripening. I use the foliage pro, bloom, pro-tekt, and cal-mag. My plants look better with that simple regimen than the multi bottle nutes ever did.

nomofatum said:

I'm confused looking at AN, and I think it's designed that way.

Base: Everything the plant should need assuming it falls within the norm.
Supplements: Individual parts of the base available to add if your specific pheno demands it
Other: Either brand new, should be in the base soon, or bullshit

If I have to buy 6 or more different overpriced AN products to get what I call a base, we can exclude them. I'm looking for a standard 3, maybe 4 part system. If I'm going to the extent of making my own mix I will start with the pure powders, not a bunch of supplement bottles. If I need a supplement I just call my buddy who thinks every hydro product is awesome and ask him to bring a MiO bottle full of it over.

Mine always looks better than his, I only use the rooting and floralicious supplements the hydro shop guy is always giving handfuls of samples for free..

Anyway, does such a system exist from AN, or can I exclude them now?

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By base I meant base nutrients. Advanced gives u some choices. Micro grow bloom is a base for veg or flower.
Sensi is a base for veg or flower.
Conni is a base for flower.

It's either 2, 3 or 4 part.

I use a total of 8 bottles with an.

Sensi a
Sensi b
Connie a
Connie b
Big bud
B52
Overdrive
Ersa elixir (not an advanced product)

AN's marketing makes it very difficult for me to choose any of their products. It's like they are designed to make the buyer think emotionally instead of logically. My logical mind, reviews the package and see's nothing of interest except a bunch of deception.

I'm going to try AN, but it's going against the winner of the three from this group, and it will get 1/3rd of my space to 2/3rds for the winner (mostly because I don't want to buy any more AN than I need.)

I'm going with a commercial hydro option for #3.
Jack's: http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Hydroponics/Buy-Hydroponics.html
AmHydro: http://americanhydroponics.com/products/nutrients.html

Help me pick from these two companies or from another commercial supplier.

nomofatum said:

I'm just finishing up my new setup at my new place.
I'm waiting for some stuff from china and waiting for my 3 mom's to be big enough for cuttings.

Shortly after the 1st of the year I should be ready to start vegging the babes.

Water: Well, Filtered, around 200PPM, Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron mostly.

Nute 1 (my default): GH MaxiGro, MaxiBloom, KoolBloom

Nutes 2 and 3: Currently top in my mind: DynaGro, Advanced Nutes (I don't know, don't like them, but have to try some time right?), GH 3 part

Strains: Sour Diesel, Cheese, Heavyweight Fruit Punch

Room will be setup with rows (1 per strain), reservoirs will be staggered (res 1 will have back row on left side of room, middle row in center of room, front row in right side of room, and similar for res 2 and 3), so each nute gets fair light exposure.

Lighting: DIY high power LED (7500 lumen/sqft) + UV (tanning bulbs)

Spacing: 1.33 SQFT per plant.

DWC, 4 gallon square buckets, 9.5" square net pots, hydroton.


Help me pick nutes 2 and 3. I will share pictures once I have it setup and figure out how to anonymize them.

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This is what I would love to see you do:

#1. Just maxibloom. Absolutely nothing else accept ph adjustment. This will act as a control for #2.

#2. Maxibloom with powder koolbloom during the last 3 weeks.

#3. Might as well go with another 1 part. I would go with DG foliagepro. I have been wanting to try it myself.

Aeroknow said:

This is what I would love to see you do:

#1. Just maxibloom. Absolutely nothing else accept ph adjustment. This will act as a control for #2.

#2. Maxibloom with powder koolbloom during the last 3 weeks.

#3. Might as well go with another 1 part. I would go with DG foliagepro. I have been wanting to try it myself.

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#1-2 Been there tried that. Just a bit slower growth in veg. You could do it I guess, but why waste time? Since they are both the same price I will stick with each when they are best suited for the job.


I know we can get away with using the same nute the whole way through, but it clearly won't be near optimal. At a minimum a N supplement would be helpful.

I know my maxi series well enough, that is my control/baseline.

nomofatum said:

#1-2 Been there tried that. Just a bit slower growth in veg. You could do it I guess, but why waste time? Since they are both the same price I will stick with each when they are best suited for the job.


I know we can get away with using the same nute the whole way through, but it clearly won't be near optimal. At a minimum a N supplement would be helpful.

I know my maxi series well enough, that is my control/baseline.

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Oh yeah, I prob should have said maxi-series, instead of just saying maxibloom. My bad, sorry for the confusion. I never wanted to rock a bloom formula in veg like others have either. Never done it myself.

But I do know the maxi-series well myself. I've been dabbling with it since the day it came out.

So basically what I meant with #1-2 is maxiseries alone in one, and
Maxiseries with a pk boost in the other.

Dyna-Gro

Veg = Foliage Pro vs Grow vs HI N Pro?
Flower = Bloom
Finish = None? Reuse KoolBloom?

nomofatum said:

Dyna-Gro

Veg = Foliage Pro vs Grow vs HI N Pro
Flower = Bloom
Finish = None? Reuse KoolBloom?

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I would love to see the DG foliagepro used all the way through, as a lot of people are claiming they do here. Compared next to flowering with a bloom formula like maxibloom.

Can you be my guinea pig? Lol

#3 House & Garden, just AB base nutes.

Sativied said:

#3 House & Garden, just AB base nutes.

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Hum, that one is interesting too, but I can't find much about WTF is in them, lol.

Aeroknow said:

I would love to see the DG foliagepro used all the way through, as a lot of people are claiming they do here. Compared next to flowering with a bloom formula like maxibloom.

Can you be my guinea pig? Lol

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Sounds like something to try with just 1-3 plants, not this run, too many experiments lead to herms and the whole room being crap.

nomofatum said:

Sounds like something to try with just 1-3 plants, not this run, too many experiments lead to herms and the whole room being crap.

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Herms? Why herms?

Anyways, it would basically be comparing your maxi-series with the foliagepro(or whatever is used)
But I don't feel it would be a real comparison if the only maxiseries plant/s had koolbloom added. It is why I recommend a control, with JUST the maxi also