Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?

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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Dr Kynes said:
it is obvious you have no desire to be taken seriously, as you repeatedly try to redefine slavery as "volunteerism", insist that well understood and often used words are imaginary, despite their presence in every dictionary, and your inability to read anything from Orwell printed after his breif infatuation with marxism and bolshevism.


you cast ad hominems and derision at anyone who states a concrete position, while cloaking your own stance in chompskyite word salad and evasions.

in all the world, nobody is taken less seriously than you, except possibly Barry Seotoro

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I don't think I have ever used the word volunteerism. Not even once, so I just tldr'd your new manifesto.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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abandonconflict said:
I don't think I have ever used the word volunteerism. Not even once, so I just tldr'd your new manifesto.
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you clearly and repeatedly insisted they were "Volunteers", which makes slavery and serfdom "Mandatory Volunteerism" (the latest leftist buzzword) in your view.

you cant backpedal away from your claims, you made them, you repeated them, you reinforced them, and then doubled down, shortly before going All In.

any attempt to back away from this now will prove you are a fair weather marxist, and a poltroon.

what is most hilarious, you claim employment = slavery, but on the subject of ACTUAL slavery, you consider it "Voluntary"
 
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mainliner

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due to religious beliefs this world will go into mass suicide for many ,before it goes into world peace , the'll just call the suicide's , volentary sacrifice, ,,,,cut there loses and goto the next life
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Dr Kynes said:
you didnt argue the facts, you disnt dispute my assertions
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Like usual, you have no facts, only emotional opinion

Dr Kynes said:
nobody will EVER turn to the Twatter generation for wisdom, sage advice, or sound judgement. your entire generation, just like that of the hippies, is a lost cause.
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I bet you won't be saying that in 3 years when you're hooked up to life support and one of those lost causes are responsible for keeping your useless body alive. LOL!

Dr Kynes said:
your generation may eventually sieze the reigns of power, but only after every previous generation has died off, and only until your children wrest it from your feeble grasp because you are INCOMPETENT.
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I can't wait!

Dr Kynes said:
you have no deep thoughts, no philosophy, no literature, and no education.
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And all you have is emotional opinion. A life fully lived to only amount to a soapbox, how's that feel I wonder..

Dr Kynes said:
you are weak minded parasites feasting on the corpses of your grandparents, and drooling at the prospect of your parent's demise when you will finally get that meager inheritance which will allow you to start up your Blog, or acquire the latest new iGadget.
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Lol, right! Keep telling your senile ass that! Your generation fucked over the future and you're too much of a bitch to admit it while nearly every one of your counterparts does.

You had your chance and you squandered it. Time for you to step aside, pops, it's a young mans game now and you're too old to get behind a steering wheel.

Perhaps you should worry about things more suited towards your demographic, like what minority FOX news is hating this week, likely the Muslims again, but you never know with crazy.. Or what new flavor of Ensure Abbott Labs has planned for the near future, maybe get on that hating marihuana bandwagon because the blacks and their crazy jazz and all that shit..
 
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mainliner

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just thought id post this to see if i could change the way you all think , only for a minute, maybe eternity,,,,,

WHILE YOU LOT HAVE BEEN ON THIS EARTH DOING WHAT EVER YOUR DOING, IV BEEN ASLEEP AND HAD A LUCID DREAM (a dream were the sleeper knows its a dream, and lives in a dream to do what he/she so desires) WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHILE I WAS THERE?
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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mainliner said:
just thought id post this to see if i could change the way you all think , only for a minute, maybe eternity,,,,,

WHILE YOU LOT HAVE BEEN ON THIS EARTH DOING WHAT EVER YOUR DOING, IV BEEN ASLEEP AND HAD A LUCID DREAM (a dream were the sleeper knows its a dream, and lives in a dream to do what he/she so desires) WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHILE I WAS THERE?
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i was reading pada's wacky post and tripping balls on the massive levels of self delusion spraying from it.

shit man, all those colours.

i would respond to his lunacy but if i get to close to that shit again i might never come down.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Jimdamick said:
The AP reported today that it cost $1,000,000 to shoot down a drone that was flying over Israel yesterday with a Patriot missile supplied by the US. I think it should have stated that it cost the American taxpayer that sum. So far, in the confrontation between Israel and Hamas, there have been over 180 fatalities on the Palestinian side, plus thousands of wounded, and zero on the Israeli side, beside one wounded This is sure to increase, as it seems that a ground assault will be next. This major conflict is due to the response by Israel to the murder of 3 Israeli teenagers, supposedly by someone affiliated with Hamas. Rockets fired by Hamas in response, using the excuse of the arrest of over 500+ people, plus 5 deaths during the search for the missing teens, has only intensified the situation. I personally feel that the US should stop financing the death and destruction that seems to be a perpetual cycle in Israel and the occupied territories in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It seems to me that our unequivocal support for Israel is a major cause of the ongoing carnage in that area, and if it was halted, or at least given under conditions, it might just make Israel think twice when confronted by the economic consequences of their actions. What do you think? Keep forking over the cash, no questions asked, or make Israel pay it's own way in their war against the mighty Palestinians.
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Sort of a loaded question, OP.

The U.S. sends support all over the globe in just about every form imaginable.

Meaning that if we pull it for Israel, we should pull it for everyone else. Everyone.

Based on that perspective, your question answers itself.

Speaking for myself: Israel has the right to exist.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Dr Kynes said:
i was reading pada's wacky post and tripping balls on the massive levels of self delusion spraying from it.

shit man, all those colours.

i would respond to his lunacy but if i get to close to that shit again i might never come down.
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That's your MO, man.. I make a post way too far out of your range of understanding, you claim some wacky sort of persecution because you can't seem to understand it, then expect everyone else to agree with you. When nobody else does, you revert to absurdism, and go into hybernation mode, never having responded to the legitimate claims and accusations made against you. A week later, you emerge as if nothing ever happened and expect people not to see through it..

You're like a crackhead with a family, one week you're on good behavior, everyone loves you, then you say some insane bullshit people are embarrassed about, hide for a week, then return claiming superiority expecting everything previously to be swept under the rug. Again, your generation isn't familiar with this concept, but today, we have the ability to go back in time and re-read what your idiotic self said. You can't hide from yourself, no matter how much you want. Own up to the idiotic shit you say, if not, stop saying it because it's so goddam idiotic that when asked to defend it, its indefensible. Seems pretty straightforward to me..
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Israel has a right to exist. Something Hamas refuses to acknowledge.
Padawanbater2 said:
How does that statement translate to Israel murdering civilians?
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Before retaliating against rockets being fired into Israel from Gaza, the IDF warns civilians to GTFO.

Which means that your characterization of "Israel murdering civilians" is not entirely accurate.
Padawanbater2 said:
If Israel were "defending" itself, why would there be such a disproportionate amount of civilian casualties?
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Hamas encourages civilians to be human shields.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/13/world/meast/mideast-tensions/index.html
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Johnnyorganic said:
Israel has a right to exist. Something Hamas refuses to acknowledge.

Before retaliating against rockets being fired into Israel from Gaza, the IDF warns civilians to GTFO.

Which means that your characterization of "Israel murdering civilians" is not entirely accurate.

Hamas encourages civilians to be human shields.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/13/world/meast/mideast-tensions/index.html
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"GTFO" to.. where exactly?

Why does IDF bomb identified UN refugee camps?
 
ErieR33FER

ErieR33FER

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mainliner said:
just thought id post this to see if i could change the way you all think , only for a minute, maybe eternity,,,,,

WHILE YOU LOT HAVE BEEN ON THIS EARTH DOING WHAT EVER YOUR DOING, IV BEEN ASLEEP AND HAD A LUCID DREAM (a dream were the sleeper knows its a dream, and lives in a dream to do what he/she so desires) WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHILE I WAS THERE?
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fuck you
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's your MO, man.. I make a post way too far out of your range of understanding, you claim some wacky sort of persecution because you can't seem to understand it, then expect everyone else to agree with you. When nobody else does, you revert to absurdism, and go into hybernation mode, never having responded to the legitimate claims and accusations made against you. A week later, you emerge as if nothing ever happened and expect people not to see through it..

You're like a crackhead with a family, one week you're on good behavior, everyone loves you, then you say some insane bullshit people are embarrassed about, hide for a week, then return claiming superiority expecting everything previously to be swept under the rug. Again, your generation isn't familiar with this concept, but today, we have the ability to go back in time and re-read what your idiotic self said. You can't hide from yourself, no matter how much you want. Own up to the idiotic shit you say, if not, stop saying it because it's so goddam idiotic that when asked to defend it, its indefensible. Seems pretty straightforward to me..
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ohh my, such delusions of adequacy

you havent ever said ANYTHING which was "out of my range of understanding" because quite frankly, you are a simpleton.

you spout mindless opinions, get butthurt and demand shit, but i am under no obligation to provide the attention you crave.

i am also not bound by any responsibility to respond to any of your worthless gibberings,

you have made no "Legitimate Cllaims" against me, as , there are no claims you could make against me which are legitimate.

you have made no "Legitimate Accusations" against me , because you have no power to lay such accusations, and no authority to prosecute them.

if, from time to time, i find my schedule a little too hectic to check in on this forum, well thats because i have a job, obligations, and responsibilities (but NONE of them are to you) which often require my attention.

every statement i have ever made remains extant, undeleted (unless the mods did it) and i stand behind them.

when i make a statement, i MEAN IT, which must be perplexing to you.

on occasion i am in error on some point of fact, law or math, and when demonstrated by competent opinions or reliable evidence, that i am in error, i accept that criticism, which im sure drives you mad, since you cannot accept any criticism, not even a joke, without unleashing your Wall O' Greentext tirades and flying into a tantrum.

i didnt make you start nearly a dozen threads on rape, i didnt make you pop up like a mushroom after a rainstorm whenever anybody mentions rape, and it's not my fault somebody has noticed your fixation with sexual assault and rape fantasy. you did all that shit all by yourself.

that such a minor barb bothers you so greatly is pure comedy, while i am constantly accused of being both a nazi sympathizer AND a tool for das juden, as well as a white supremacist AND a stooge for israel, a servant of Monsanto AND a minimum wage stockboy at walmart, a paid shill for the Koch Brothers AND an unemployed loser, and so on and so on and so on (i do have a Very busy schedule, as i already stated)

sometimes i fail to satisfy your desperate craving for attention, which i suppose is an oversight, or is it all just a part of my sinister scheme to drive you over the edge, until you go mad...

Mad I Say!!!


Muahhahhahahhahhhahahah!!

 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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Padawanbater2 said:
you're too much of a bitch to admit it while nearly every one of your counterparts does.
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Really? I can't think of even one of his counterparts that would agree with that bullshit.


Padawanbater2 said:
I make a post way too far out of your range of understanding
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Holy shit, you are one deluded halfwit. You poor bastards just don't understand how fucking stupid you appear when you square off against Kynes.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Padawanbater2 said:
"GTFO" to.. where exactly?
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Anywhere not specifically listed in the ample warning provided prior to an attack.

From the article I linked in my previous posting:

"In leaflets dropped Sunday, the IDF warned residents that it intends "to attack terrorists and terror infrastructures." The leaflets list areas that will be targeted. "Israel is currently attacking, and will continue to attack, every area from which rockets are being launched at its territory."

The leaflets told residents which roads were safe to take and gave a time frame. "The IDF is not interested in hurting you or your family members. These operations are limited and short. Whoever does not adhere to these instructions and does not vacate their house immediately is subjecting their lives and the lives of their children and family to danger," the leaflet said."
Padawanbater2 said:
Why does IDF bomb identified UN refugee camps?
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The IDF is going after concealed rocket launchers, rocket cache locations, and Hamas military leaders. Hamas chooses to use schools, hospitals, and even mosques to hide these.

You did not provide me a link to any story showing the IDF deliberately targeted a UN refugee camp. In the absence of any additional information, my response is that Hamas was hiding something there. Knowing the IDF would strike. Knowing that civilians would be collateral damage.

Why does the UN allow Hamas to use it's facilities to conceal weapons of war?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/
 
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