should prisoners be paid minimum wage?

If it competes with other companies then yes, i believe that minimum wage and associated costs should be paid, like any other company would be forced to do. Not having to pay your workforce a minimum wage means that they have the ability to easily outprice the competition without risk to the "business", while other businesses often sell at a price because their overheads mean that that is as cheap as they are viably able to go. Taxes are also paid on net profit are they not. So if a company can make far greater profit due to much lower overheads, then more tax is paid, which can in turn open up the door to corruption with regard to the number of these prisons and/or the number of convictions and or duration of convictions.

Of cource they should not get minimum wadge, regular employees don't get paid minimum wadge why should prisoners? Where would our country be without slavery? Slavery is among the oldest and most popular of American princapales and values, the people support slavery by a huge margine.

racerboy71 said:

who's fault is that?? the corrupt prisons who's only business is to arrest citizens and to make money in the process, or the people being arrested?

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Who's fault is it that they charge the prisoner less than the full true cost to house them? I don't even understand what you are asking. They recoup what they can, the rest comes out of tax payer money.

billybob420 said:

Prisoners are the only ones NOT profiting from the prison system.

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WTF are you talking about? How have I profited from the prison system?

guy incognito said:

They recoup what they can, the rest comes out of tax payer money.

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Weather you realize it or not, you are wrong. Your premise is false and your facts are untrue and your logic is flawed.

guy incognito said:

WTF are you talking about? How have I profited from the prison system?

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Are you part of the prison system? If you are, you're profiting, unless you're a prisoner. If you're not, then obviously I wasn't talking about you.

You guys do realize prisons are filled with people that did more than just smoke some weed? They are filled with gang members, rapists, pedophiles and murders too. Very bad people that did very bad things, and no they don't deserve to make as much money as someone that is not incarcerated.

guy incognito said:

You guys do realize prisons are filled with people that did more than just smoke some weed? They are filled with gang members, rapists, pedophiles and murders too. Very bad people that did very bad things, and no they don't deserve to make as much money as someone that is not incarcerated.

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then why not allow the victim the right to defend themselves using deadly force, posibly preventing crime, eliminating or reducing the need for prisons and police and making the world a better safer place.

billybob420 said:

Are you part of the prison system? If you are, you're profiting, unless you're a prisoner. If you're not, then obviously I wasn't talking about you.

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You directly quoted me, of course you were talking to me.

beardo said:

then why not allow the victim the right to defend themselves using deadly force, posibly preventing crime, eliminating or reducing the need for prisons and police and making the world a better safer place.

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That's not even the topic at hand.

guy incognito said:

You directly quoted me, of course you were talking to me.

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To you, not about you, in response to what you said.

You were implying somehow prisoners are locked up making tons of money and saving big bucks, I was just stating out that's not the case at all.

guy incognito said:

That's not even the topic at hand.

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You are not paid minimum wadge so why should a prisoner be? So no, a prisoner should not recieve minimum wadge. This country wants and needs and supports slavery so it should continue.

billybob420 said:

To you, not about you, in response to what you said.

You were implying somehow prisoners are locked up making tons of money and saving big bucks, I was just stating out that's not the case at all.

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No I didn't imply anything, I directly stated that I am not making tons of money off the prison system, just as most of the population isn't. It's really a very small fraction of people profiting from the prison system. I am not one of them, the prison system is actually costing me money.

beardo said:

You are not paid minimum wadge so why should a prisoner be? So no, a prisoner should not recieve minimum wadge. This country wants and needs and supports slavery so it should continue.

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what are you talking about?

guy incognito said:

, the prison system is actually costing me money.

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No it is not

guy incognito said:

what are you talking about?

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the fact that you do not get paid the minimum wadge or grater. And the fact that a great majority support slavery and believe it is nessacary and good and for the best.

beardo said:

No it is not

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So you are telling me no state or federal prison is accepting any tax dollars? They are completely self sufficient?

beardo said:

the fact that you do not get paid the minimum wadge or grater. And the fact that a great majority support slavery and believe it is nessacary and good and for the best.

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I get paid a lot more than minimum wage. My value to an employer in the free market is not what this thread is about. Who supports slavery? Is paying a murderer less money than you would pay a non murder a form of slavery?

guy incognito said:

No I didn't imply anything, I directly stated that I am not making tons of money off the prison system, just as most of the population isn't. It's really a very small fraction of people profiting from the prison system. I am not one of them, the prison system is actually costing me money.

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You didn't directly stat that at all in what I was responding to.

A small fraction of people are profiting? A fraction of what number? You mean people in general? Then why the fuck do we have them? Oh yeah, to keep criminals off the street, care to put a price on that?

Anyway, the problem isn't the amount of people profiting, it's who and how much they're profiting.

But, we're beginning to get off the subject.

guy incognito said:

So you are telling me no state or federal prison is accepting any tax dollars? They are completely self sufficient?

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The "taxes" you pay have nothing to do with the "costs" of the prison system