SERIOUS QUESTION

Long story short I'm 5-10, 180 athletic build. I was offered a job at let's call them Hospital A1 and was clean for 30 days after smoking frequently for a year so I decided to use my own urine. I don't do any other drugs or drink alcohol. I later failed the test for the A1 hospital (notified from lab and hr via phone call). Another in the area hospital, no affiliation, let's call them B2 Hospital called and offered me the same position but there is no way I'll pass unless I use someone else's urine because I started smoking again after I found out I failed the A1 test

My question is there anyway to find if they use the same lab? Because failed test keep the specimen for a minimum year. And if they do use the same lab, how can I pass???? Because I know once you use your own urine or someone else for one test, you're suppose to use that for the next one as well. It has been about 90days since I failed A1 hospital test.

A friend recommended the CERTO Suregel Method if I have to use my own urine. Anyone heard of this?


Someone please help ease my mind

If your that worried substitute for clean pee

From personal experience, heavy smoker, 90 days most thc is out of your system. Drink diuretic liquids, lemonade, cranberry juice, water. Old dead head trick, not for the weak at heart, 1 capfull of bleach in a glass of milk, let it sit 5 min, kill it fast, pass drug test in 30 minutes or less. I've used the bleach trick a few times in tight binds with piss tests. It's not for everyone though

DarkWizard021 said:

From personal experience, heavy smoker, 90 days most thc is out of your system. Drink diuretic liquids, lemonade, cranberry juice, water. Old dead head trick, not for the weak at heart, 1 capfull of bleach in a glass of milk, let it sit 5 min, kill it fast, pass drug test in 30 minutes or less. I've used the bleach trick a few times in tight binds with piss tests. It's not for everyone though

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I have too people ask me all the time how to clean up fast and cringe when I mention bleach. Extreme yes, saved my ass from jail yes.

why not go and buy a home test kit from a drug store and take said test before going to leave on for the job? i agree, 90 plus 30 days should be way enough time for you to be clean, that's an insane amount of time imvho..
if you're really worried about it, go the synthetic route.. i've used quick fix more times than i can count, and have always passed with flying colors..

DarkWizard021 said:

From personal experience, heavy smoker, 90 days most thc is out of your system. Drink diuretic liquids, lemonade, cranberry juice, water. Old dead head trick, not for the weak at heart, 1 capfull of bleach in a glass of milk, let it sit 5 min, kill it fast, pass drug test in 30 minutes or less. I've used the bleach trick a few times in tight binds with piss tests. It's not for everyone though

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I smoked after failing the 1st test, my urine isn't clean

Michiganmeds1982 said:

If your that worried substitute for clean pee

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My worry isn't substituting clean pee. It's because I took the 1st test with my urine and failed and I heard that if they use the same lab I need identical urine specimen(same person) or they will know

DarkWizard021 said:

From personal experience, heavy smoker, 90 days most thc is out of your system. Drink diuretic liquids, lemonade, cranberry juice, water. Old dead head trick, not for the weak at heart, 1 capfull of bleach in a glass of milk, let it sit 5 min, kill it fast, pass drug test in 30 minutes or less. I've used the bleach trick a few times in tight binds with piss tests. It's not for everyone though

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Any medical setbacks from it? I think I can stomach that.

You can drink bleach if you want.. but what makes you so sure the lab will cross-match
your urine without being paid to do so?? Guess I don't get it!!

HydoDan said:

You can drink bleach if you want.. but what makes you so sure the lab will cross-match
your urine without being paid to do so?? Guess I don't get it!!

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I was always told whatever specimen (my urine or someone else's) that you use the first time, make sure you use the second time. If the labs don't cross-match or cross reference I'm fine cause I'll use someone's clean urine. Is there anyway to find out?

I'd bet the lab has numbers on the samples not names, it's a confidentiality issue.

KryptoBud said:

I'd bet the lab has numbers on the samples not names, it's a confidentiality issue.

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Labs have to keep positive results for minimum one year

Man I was in the military and they had some of the most advanced urinalysis gear possible. Trust me it's the only thing the Navy keeps that's advanced because they want to catch ppl. I had folks that would smoke all the time and when it came time drink a gallon of water make sure their piss was clear eat some b12 and pass every time. Also 30 days should be more than enough time to piss clean IF your athletic. I mean I run all the time 3 miles a day five times a week and stop smoking and pee clean in about 15 days but I drink nothing but water sooooooo yah.

IneedHelp1234578 said:

Labs have to keep positive results for minimum one year

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Maybe, that doesn't mean they can cross reference names, numbers, and samples. Check state laws where you live they differ slightly, but most states they're treated as medical records.

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Drug testing records are confidential, and can only be released during certain legal matters. Federal law requires records be kept in a separate, confidential medical file. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act also often requires an employee’s written consent to release test records to an employer. During legal issues regarding a drug test, it is legal to release test records to courts, government agencies or arbitrators.

KryptoBud said:

Maybe, that doesn't mean they can cross reference names, numbers, and samples. Check state laws where you live they differ slightly, but most states they're treated as medical records.

onfidentiality
Drug testing records are confidential, and can only be released during certain legal matters. Federal law requires records be kept in a separate, confidential medical file. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act also often requires an employee’s written consent to release test records to an employer. During legal issues regarding a drug test, it is legal to release test records to courts, government agencies or arbitrators.

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I live in Florida. I'm on the fence with what I should do :/

IneedHelp1234578 said:

I live in Florida. I'm on the fence with what I should do :/

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Well I would go with someone's clean urine they will not know the difference. Pee is pee no genetic markers in pee. That's why it never comes up in court as evidence UNLESS you were caught peeing on the person on video ............for shame r Kelly. But dude I was a urinalysis coordinator and I'll tell you one thing do not get those expensive ass drinks from head shops they can be detected on advanced test and if you drink bleach theyre gonna wonder why the hell you've been drinking pool water. Plus unless it's a deal to keep you out of jail don't drink bleach that's insane.

Also if your pee was flagged the first time and not this time just remember your pee is just a number and they can't give that information go another party even if it's another hospital. It's against hipaa regulations. So no worries on any other party finding out your previous test results

IneedHelp1234578 said:

My worry isn't substituting clean pee. It's because I took the 1st test with my urine and failed and I heard that if they use the same lab I need identical urine specimen(same person) or they will know

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I highly doubt the lab would give enough fucks about your employer that they would do DNA analysis on the two pisses. You need to learn to say fuck it and just go for it. What's going to happen if they do notify you that they analyzed your piss and it's not the same? You don't get job B, which will happen if you don't give a sample anyways. Just get some fake piss, and a set of nuts while you're at it and get the shit done.

IneedHelp1234578 said:

I was always told whatever specimen (my urine or someone else's) that you use the first time, make sure you use the second time. If the labs don't cross-match or cross reference I'm fine cause I'll use someone's clean urine. Is there anyway to find out?

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i've never heard of such a thing, and have been pretty active on canna boards for going on almost a decade now.. i also agree with what someone else said, even if they keep data on a failed sample, i'd think that i'd be just say a number, in no way would it be associated with your name..
i also fail to see how a company doing urinalysis would know how the urine you used is the same as the urine you used 90 days or how ever long ago.. sure, i guess they could do some dna testing, but that sort of thing is costly, and i've never heard of a company willing to pay for such a thing, nor of a lab who even offered such a thing..