Mr.Goodtimes
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They might be. I doubt they would be stable generically tho
Hydrotech364
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Hermies!
Mr.Goodtimes
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I have 20-30 some from a buddys' plant harvest back July of '10. I'm still sitting on them cuz idk lol
Northern Lights x Pineapple Express... His plants were shit but still sounds good tho lol... one day I'll pop a few and see (I keep telling myself)...
MichiganMedGrower
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They will be female seeds if they were self pollinated. Stress was likely the cause especially if you got that many.
The seeds are fine. The hermie trait thing is a myth. Grow without the stress that caused it and you have 80 free seeds.
Assuming the genetics were good you started with.
This info came from the breeder at CH9 seeds. And I use the few I find in my garden to grow great plants often.
The seeds are fine. The hermie trait thing is a myth. Grow without the stress that caused it and you have 80 free seeds.
Assuming the genetics were good you started with.
This info came from the breeder at CH9 seeds. And I use the few I find in my garden to grow great plants often.
Jimmy Sparkle
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More hermie urban legend Bullshit!!! Stress will cause a plant to put out seeds in an all female environment that is absoloutly true. Another thing that is true is that they will most certainly be female seeds that are 100% viable . Ive got lots of seeds from a few stressed out grows and it was such fire Ive got all my buddies begging me to give or sell them some of my " hermie" seeds lol. I personally have never had a seed produced this way that ended up being a hermie again. However, I did notice quite a bit of phenotypes due to the genetics not being too terribly stable but most often produce plants close to the original.
Kingrow1
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If the breeder at CH9 is to be believed then one can easily come to the conclusion that an easier to grow strain will give you less seeds and lower stress levels...
Budley Doright
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Is it not a trait that good breeders breed out? Is there not plants that can not be stressed to produce seeds and must be done chemically? I was always under the impression that if seeds are common in a plant that they would not use that particular plant as a breeder and chuck it, going with the plants of that run that had no seed or hermi trait.
Kingrow1
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I dont know, its all quite speculative, years and years later seeds still hermie. Would have thought if anyone had any answers it would long since been outbred of all strains...
MichiganMedGrower
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Yes yes yes! I have been saying often as I read help threads. Why is this beginner growing strains like that?
I started with northern light autos that were problematic enough for a noob. And I got 15 oz. from my 600w first grow. It was really good too. Better than the dispensary weed available at the time.
And no nanners!
Pete helped me. I started with his extremely stable Jack. And he kept throwing in a few high line seeds to try. And that's what I mostly grow now. But it is much more intense than the little Jack plants.
He hates our seed market. He deals in volume production and sale in Europe. It's a shame but I worry my supply will end.
And I only mention him because he is the best and most accurate help I have gotten from anyone. And I research and ask questions constantly. I would never have achieved my results arguing here. Lol.
MichiganMedGrower
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Of course the breeders breed out the bad traits. And hopefully breed in the good ones.
Then they use chemicals to alter the plants that are the best females hormones to produce male flowers.
And the pollen or the flowers are still not always enough or even viable.
My first grow I stressed my plants and they hermied. Aurora Indica fem. They spit out a lot of seeds. The bud was still good. I'm growing those seeds now and the 3 plants I have are doing good in week 5 of flip. I did notice that a few random colas have produced a seed or 2 but they seem to be growing just fine with no problems. The way i look at it is if this works out I have a few years of seeds I didn't have to pay for.
Budley Doright
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Well aren't you kind of contradicting yourself with your first post that the hermie trait is a myth if in fact it can be bred out (to a point). If you elaborate on "the hermie myth" that may clarify what you mean. It could be that I'm just highly confused lol. I can honestly say that I have never had a herm in hydro although my last run, third clone from clone run, that went outdoors did throw a few seeds from a few plants, yup I stressed the shit out of them lol.
MichiganMedGrower
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The myth is that if your plant shows stamen (nanners) then any seeds found will likely also have them.
It's just not true. If the genetics have been worked properly then no stress no nanners.
I just had mentioned some exceptions like Chemdog which we like to grow but tends to have the trait still.
And it is nutrient stress that most often triggers the reversal. Or heat.
Dr. Who
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Hmmmm, Interesting views.....
I gotta throw in here..
Sense your plant threw "naners"....The seeds have no more then the same amount of ability to herm as the mother plant!
The "myth" of herming plants making seeds that herm is true! BUT, this was true for how they created the first FEM seeds.
Dutch Passion would take a female plant that tended to herm under stress. They would stress the plant, and as it grew the male parts needed for pollination. They would put another female in with it to be pollinated and harvest the seeds from that plant. This method had problems with unstable results and strains that were used that had the herming trait. Passed along that trait to the new seeds, only stronger.
You stressed your plant so it thew Banana's. The offspring have no more ability to "herm" then the plant they came from.
So then, "Don't stress the new seeds and you won't get herming"...
I gotta throw in here..
Sense your plant threw "naners"....The seeds have no more then the same amount of ability to herm as the mother plant!
The "myth" of herming plants making seeds that herm is true! BUT, this was true for how they created the first FEM seeds.
Dutch Passion would take a female plant that tended to herm under stress. They would stress the plant, and as it grew the male parts needed for pollination. They would put another female in with it to be pollinated and harvest the seeds from that plant. This method had problems with unstable results and strains that were used that had the herming trait. Passed along that trait to the new seeds, only stronger.
You stressed your plant so it thew Banana's. The offspring have no more ability to "herm" then the plant they came from.
So then, "Don't stress the new seeds and you won't get herming"...
MichiganMedGrower
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That was my original answer to the op above. Grow without stress next time and you got yourself good free seeds.
Dr. Who
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I just had to add the real herming seed story......I saw someone say that it's a "myth".....My CDO made me give the real herming story!That was my original answer to the op above. Grow without stress next time and you got yourself good free seeds.
??Um, don't you mean that, if he grows the seeds he has out. Stress free, they won't herm next time????
MichiganMedGrower
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Yes but my hermie seeds have grown into a plant you see and I dried and smoked those pinapple looking things on it and then posted my response.I just had to add the real herming seed story......I saw someone say that it's a "myth".....My CDO made me give the real herming story!
??Um, don't you mean that, if he grows the seeds he has out. Stress free, they won't herm next time????
