Sannie’s Jack Herer F7 4 Bucket RDWC 1000 Watt HPS Grow

m420p

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More pics pls, buds are looking amazing ; )
lol, I probably look at the last pics a couple times a day because they look so good. Not much has happened since I posted those pics but I guess I'll post a few more.

I'm sure I don't need to label them. I'm only taking pics of the two, the heavy yielder and the frosty one and it's pretty easy to see which is which. The third one is resembles both but it's nothing special so I'm not going to bother.







 

Flem

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Third picture from top, wow thet must be yielder plant. I want thet pheno.... I will be picking on something like thet, this buds are brutal

Good job.
 

booort

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Hard to tell from the pics, do you have anything to support the flowers? Bamboo sticks, strings, etc...or are the stems strong enough for the colas to stay upright on their own?
 

m420p

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Hard to tell from the pics, do you have anything to support the flowers? Bamboo sticks, strings, etc...or are the stems strong enough for the colas to stay upright on their own?
Nope, this is actually only the second strain I have grown that I haven't had to support with strings. I attribute that to the lack of stretch, amount of air I had blowing on them once they were big enough to take it and the bulb being dimmer than usual(which I m replacing this week) because while I have some nice size colas and long dense buds, I was expecting a little bigger at this stage and more stretch to them.
 

m420p

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Yielder pheno is unbelivable, i hope you dident kill thet clone : D
I did. I have found two male flowers on it that I just cut off but they were only single pollen sacks, not three together like the other hermie so I decided to let it go since it is such a yielder. Honestly if I could go back I probably would have kept a clone of it even though it's a hermie because of the yield. Even though I took a clone of the frosty one I plan on buying a 10 pack again when I add my organic soil grow. Going to do both Hydro and Organics.
 

Flem

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Yea, frosty one should be ok also i see frosty phenos flower time is much quicker also since yielder has alot of green leafs and needs more time. My sannies jack F7 are near about 10 days of 12/12 and i got 7 females out of a 9 seeds. Also i noticed i have 3 longer jacks and 4 shorter ones. They are all bushy and very healthy. Can you tell me did your yielder pheno tend to grow in height also or its more on lower side. Was thet the plant thet you indentified as beign most sativa in vegetation >?
My plants all look same they are like clones there is really no diference except in height. I have clones of all my tallest and bushiest jacks (3 of them) im hopeing to find a good mother plant there.

Also about the yielder pheno letting out pollen sacks i dont think its a hermie (at least dont look or grow like one) its possible it pollinated due to some minor stresses, Jack tends to be very easily stressed and performes as a very gentle plant with longer flower time i guess thets why sensi seeds says its for expert growers by some of their opinions.

I bet there are alot of changes in your grow room by now im looking forrward to an update : )
 

m420p

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Yea, frosty one should be ok also i see frosty phenos flower time is much quicker also since yielder has alot of green leafs and needs more time. My sannies jack F7 are near about 10 days of 12/12 and i got 7 females out of a 9 seeds. Also i noticed i have 3 longer jacks and 4 shorter ones. They are all bushy and very healthy. Can you tell me did your yielder pheno tend to grow in height also or its more on lower side. Was thet the plant thet you indentified as beign most sativa in vegetation >?
My plants all look same they are like clones there is really no diference except in height. I have clones of all my tallest and bushiest jacks (3 of them) im hopeing to find a good mother plant there.

Also about the yielder pheno letting out pollen sacks i dont think its a hermie (at least dont look or grow like one) its possible it pollinated due to some minor stresses, Jack tends to be very easily stressed and performes as a very gentle plant with longer flower time i guess thets why sensi seeds says its for expert growers by some of their opinions.

I bet there are alot of changes in your grow room by now im looking forrward to an update : )
The yielder pheno and the other two never stretched and got really bushy. The frosty one stretched like crazy, I had to tie her down quite a bit. Doesn't yield much but there is a obvious increase in trichs when compared to the rest, especially the yielder, photos don't really show the difference well. But you know what, I've been sleeping on this third plant I have but everyday it surprises me more, about 3/4 - 4/5 the size of the heavy yielder but it's getting comparable to the frosty one as far as frostiness and trichs go. Late bloomer I guess, I'll post pics of that plant next update which will be right before I chop the frosty one in a few days to a week.
 

m420p

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Well here it is. I'm happy with the grow. I've grown bigger buds around with the NL strain I had but I've never grew buds this long for a plant that I LST'd. I've seen them on single stalk plants but I am impressed. The Yielder did throw some late male flowers but they were no worries. If anyone was wondering here are some things that I think I could have improved or done better on this grow:
-Don't stress them out in early stages to help prevent hermies. i.e. leaving them in the humidome too long.
-Waited for all plants to be ready for bloom. Such as the yielder plant, it was the smallest of the group and if I would have let it grow some more tops, it could have yielded more.
-Should have did a SCROG, I had no tops in the center of my grow area, really stupid on my part.
-Have a extra Bulb on hand...
-Have more air intake, which I will more than double next grow in a couple weeks.
-Should have kept a clone of each plant until bud was cured...
That's about all I can think of. Things to improve on.

I will post some more pics. after bud is cured for a week or two and give a little smoke report.

Pre and post chop pics:

Frosty non yielding pheno(chopped 3 days ago):





Other Plant(which I "slept on" and is more frosty than the yielder plant and might actually yield quite a bit more than the "yielder"):





Chopped pics(well pic., the other pics. I took were blurry and I since hung them and locked them up and am tired and lazy, it is all you get for now, lol, I'll post more pics before jars):

 

booort

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Those look fantastic, I can only hope that one of my next few grows mine turn out as large and as good of looking as these. Your journal has been such a big help for me getting started into rdwc. Thanks for documenting things and all the explaining, looking forward to your next journal.
 

m420p

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Those look fantastic, I can only hope that one of my next few grows mine turn out as large and as good of looking as these. Your journal has been such a big help for me getting started into rdwc. Thanks for documenting things and all the explaining, looking forward to your next journal.
Thanks! Thats the thing I love about this site, you not only gain knowledge from your own experiences but also from others and are able to share yours with others. I'll be starting a Bodhi Lucky Charms Grow Journal soon with a scrog and new bulb so it should be a better grow. I will admit I was a little lazy as far as not being prepared with a new bulb or not doing a scrog on this grow, but I don't regret anything really, turned out better than I expected.
 

m420p

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Here's some more eye candy since I didn't have many pics last update. I hung them in my bloom room because my next crop has a week or two left in veg. before it will be ready, it is the most securely locked room in the house and it is the best and easiest room to control the environment in such as temp. and humidity.







 

m420p

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Well I have to share this with you guys. I was cleaning up the room preparing it for the next cycle of plants and when I remover the ducting from one of the intake fans I noticed grass and pine needles. Turned out birds have built two nests in both of my intakes blocking them for probably a few weeks until now. the intake comes in from the eave so they must have found a way into the eave. I'm going to remove the 8 inch cheapo inline duct fan because it was serving no purpose, the 100 dollar inline fan I have sucks more air through the hood and hood intake than that pushes through the intake or the hood. I am also going to replace the cheapo 6 inch inline fan with a 100 dollar inline duct fan so I have more air exchange. Check it out...







 

m420p

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Well the story didn't end there. I woke up this morning to a bunch of noise in the grow room. As I approached it, it was pretty obvious to me that a bird made it's way into the grow room. I planned on letting it escape through the house and the front door but I decided to wait it out and see if it could get out itself and it eventually did. I had a feeling I would have a run in with one of those birds.

I since blocked off where they were entering the eave and put window screening over the intakes. The eight inch was never plugged in because it did no good but the six inch was on and blocked with grass and twigs, I'm just glad there was no fire. So lesson here... cover your intake exhaust if it comes from out side.
 

booort

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Well the story didn't end there. I woke up this morning to a bunch of noise in the grow room. As I approached it, it was pretty obvious to me that a bird made it's way into the grow room. I planned on letting it escape through the house and the front door but I decided to wait it out and see if it could get out itself and it eventually did. I had a feeling I would have a run in with one of those birds.

I since blocked off where they were entering the eave and put window screening over the intakes. The eight inch was never plugged in because it did no good but the six inch was on and blocked with grass and twigs, I'm just glad there was no fire. So lesson here... cover your intake exhaust if it comes from out side.
Wow what a headache, I would be pretty freaked out if I opened my flower room door and found a bird in there. :)
 

Flem

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Pretty nice man : D Just a quick question, i was looking at your ppm chart since im now at week 3 at flower and strongest food i gave them was 500 ppm what would be EC 1.0 or 1000 us/cm, so i wonder do we use same ppm conversion. When you say ppm 500 is thet calculated by the 0,5 faktor where it would be ec 1 ?
(Also what you found to be max ppm they could handle)
If so then i might be raising EC level to 1.4 what is 700 ppm, just dont want to burn/underfeed them : _)
btw here is pic at day 20 of flower they look pretty similar to urs at thet stage : )
http://imageupper.com/g/?S020001003T13669275082139763
 

m420p

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Sorry for not answering sooner. Haven't been on in a while. My meter goes by the .7 factor. So when my meter reads 1.0 EC it is 700 ppm. I didn't have to vary from my schedule much, seen slight burning once and had to drop back ppm a bit once but I just was raising it too quick. Plants look great though.
 

Flem

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Yes man, your chart is good and should help alot of people, helped me with starting points with my water solution (i repeat i grow in soil : ) i also maintained .3 EC by Calimagic and then pumped it up with nutrients, only i gave by .2 lower dosage then your chart suggests and dident see any deficiency or burnes yet.. at week 3 they recived EC 1.2 and i guess strongest they will get from now on is 1.4 Also i have to give fresh water from time to time to prevent salt buildup but i doubt i will have any since i was very light on nutes since begining, Your buds look lovely i can only hope mine will get thet fat : )
 
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