FirstTimeGrowGuy
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hell yea its overpriced. its like a one or two time thing for me. ill just stick with...
Salvia.. done it?
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BryanG1983
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I have a couple of Salvia plants in the house and looking into starting an extraction process; did you get anywhere with yours?
BryanG1983
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How to make Salvia Extract
Introduction
Have you ever tried making your own crude Salvia Divinorum extract at home, and wondered why it looks like a black sticky mess that smokes harsher than a porcupine eating competition? Well, fear not, for this guide will ensure a quality finished product rivalling that of store-bought extracts.
This extract will make approximately 10g of unstandardised 10x extract. Provided you can use a calculator, the quantities detailed below can be jiggled around to make any strength extract you want.
Equipment
100g Salvia Divinorum Leaf The same Salvia Divinorum Leaf we sell. 1x Large Saucepan Just a regular large saucepan. Make sure it's clean. No one wants to find the remains of burnt on spaghetti in their pipe. 1x Pyrex Tray A large, wide, glass dish essentially. You might find a casserole dish fits the bill. 1x Small Glass Container Anything will do, even a jam jar. 1x Tall, Narrow Glass Container The perfect tool for the job is a boiling tube, but anything remotely similar will do. 1x Pipette Not everyone has access to calibrated volumetric pipettes so anything that looks like an eye dropper will do. That means, a thin tube with a rubber bit on the end which you can squeeze. 2lt Propane Based Solvent No not propane, but either propan-2-ol (AKA Isopropanol, Isopropyl Alcohol, Rubbing Alcohol) or propanone (AKA Acetone). They need to be 99% pure at least. Don't even think about using nail varnish remover. 300ml Naphtha The best source of commercially available naphtha in the UK is lighter fluid.
Step 1 - Powder Your Leaf
The first thing to do is weigh out your 100g of Salvia Divinorum Leaf. Remove 10g of the best leaves from your stash and set them aside for later. The remaining 90g needs to be powdered using your trusty coffee grinder. It's high RPM motor and stainless steel blades are no match for your dried salvia leaf. It's worth pointing out that although the leaves may not instantly grind, you'll have to give them a few minutes, but they WILL powder eventually. Use the grinder in 1 minute bursts, allowing the motor to cool in between. When you remove the lid from the grinder, unless you want to look like Shrek, do it in a fume cupboard. The coffee grinder will reduce the leaf to a flour like consistency which will billow out as soon as you remove the lid, turning everything in the immediate vicinity a sexy shade of green.
Step 2 - Extract The Salvinorin-A
Now you have 90g of powdered leaf, get it in your saucepan and pour in enough solvent to comfortably cover your leaf. Stir it constantly for 5 minutes and then let it sit for 8 hours or so. After that time, enough of the salvinorin should have dissolved in your solvent, so you can now carefully pour off the liquid in your saucepan into your Pyrex tray, being careful enough to leave all the solids behind.
If you'd like to make sure you extract as much salvinorin-a as possible, you may repeat this step once more.
Step 3 - The Waiting Game
As simple as it sounds, you have about 16 hours in which to twiddle your thumbs, watch some paint dry, or whatever you feel like. During this time, don't even think about touching your extraction, and make sure it's in a dark place. Light has a nasty habit of destroying salvinorin-a in solution. The purpose of this step is to let any sediment such as tannins fall out of the leaf which are hard to extract later on.
After the 16 or so hours are up, you may pour off the remaining liquid into the original saucepan, provided you emptied out the powdered leaf earlier.
Step 4 - Evaporating The Solvent
This takes forever, is incredibly boring and will give you terrible stomach ache if you don't do it somewhere well ventilated. The best, safest and longest method of evaporating the solvent is in the dark, in the absence of heat. Remember, the solvent is flammable, so applying heat to it should be avoided. Blowing air across the solvent will speed things up substantially, so if you have a fan, use it, but again, only somewhere well ventilated. If the fan produces a spark, it could ignite the vapour, blowing up both you and your extraction.
When the evaporation is complete, you should be left with a load of black gunk on the inside of your container. This is as far as most people get with their extractions and is the reason why the end result is a black sticky mess. That's ok for about 5x or 6x extracts, but any stronger than that and it becomes unsmokable.
Step 5 - Purification
When your black gunk is completely dry, you can scrape it out of your container and place it into a tall, narrow container. To this, add 50ml or so of naphtha. The naphtha dissolves the green/black waxes but leaves behind the salvinorin-a. After you add the first lot of naphtha, allow the container 30 minutes or so to settle, then pipette off two thirds of the naphtha and discard it. Repeat this process at LEAST 5 more times until your salvinorin-a is no longer a black colour. If you keep washing with naphtha, it will eventually turn white, however that kind of purity isn't necessary for making 10x extract. If you were making something like 40x or 60x (not recommended), then the higher the purity, the better.
After the last naphtha wash, remove two thirds one last time and this time, allow the naphtha to evaporate off, leaving you with relatively pure salvinorin-a. DO NOT try and smoke/ingest this, as even a tenth of a milligram can be too much for some people.
Step 6 - Fortification
Now we have the salvinorin-a from 90g of leaf, we shall add it back to the 10g of quality leaf you set aside in Step 1. Although not completely accurate, you can see this is why it's called 10x extract, as there's 10x the amount of salvinorin-a in the finished product.
To do this, we place the salvinorin-a we produced in the previous step into the saucepan and add to it the same amount of solvent we used in step 1. Stir it round for a few minutes to ensure it has all dissolved. Next, add the 10g of leaf to your small container and pour the contents of the saucepan over it.
You can now evaporate off all of this solvent with a hairdryer, or gentle heat, such as a water bath, until all of the solvent has evaporated.
The finished product is approximately 10g of leaf, looking a little darker than normal, 10 times as strong.
Introduction
Have you ever tried making your own crude Salvia Divinorum extract at home, and wondered why it looks like a black sticky mess that smokes harsher than a porcupine eating competition? Well, fear not, for this guide will ensure a quality finished product rivalling that of store-bought extracts.
This extract will make approximately 10g of unstandardised 10x extract. Provided you can use a calculator, the quantities detailed below can be jiggled around to make any strength extract you want.
Equipment
100g Salvia Divinorum Leaf The same Salvia Divinorum Leaf we sell. 1x Large Saucepan Just a regular large saucepan. Make sure it's clean. No one wants to find the remains of burnt on spaghetti in their pipe. 1x Pyrex Tray A large, wide, glass dish essentially. You might find a casserole dish fits the bill. 1x Small Glass Container Anything will do, even a jam jar. 1x Tall, Narrow Glass Container The perfect tool for the job is a boiling tube, but anything remotely similar will do. 1x Pipette Not everyone has access to calibrated volumetric pipettes so anything that looks like an eye dropper will do. That means, a thin tube with a rubber bit on the end which you can squeeze. 2lt Propane Based Solvent No not propane, but either propan-2-ol (AKA Isopropanol, Isopropyl Alcohol, Rubbing Alcohol) or propanone (AKA Acetone). They need to be 99% pure at least. Don't even think about using nail varnish remover. 300ml Naphtha The best source of commercially available naphtha in the UK is lighter fluid.
Step 1 - Powder Your Leaf
The first thing to do is weigh out your 100g of Salvia Divinorum Leaf. Remove 10g of the best leaves from your stash and set them aside for later. The remaining 90g needs to be powdered using your trusty coffee grinder. It's high RPM motor and stainless steel blades are no match for your dried salvia leaf. It's worth pointing out that although the leaves may not instantly grind, you'll have to give them a few minutes, but they WILL powder eventually. Use the grinder in 1 minute bursts, allowing the motor to cool in between. When you remove the lid from the grinder, unless you want to look like Shrek, do it in a fume cupboard. The coffee grinder will reduce the leaf to a flour like consistency which will billow out as soon as you remove the lid, turning everything in the immediate vicinity a sexy shade of green.
Step 2 - Extract The Salvinorin-A
Now you have 90g of powdered leaf, get it in your saucepan and pour in enough solvent to comfortably cover your leaf. Stir it constantly for 5 minutes and then let it sit for 8 hours or so. After that time, enough of the salvinorin should have dissolved in your solvent, so you can now carefully pour off the liquid in your saucepan into your Pyrex tray, being careful enough to leave all the solids behind.
If you'd like to make sure you extract as much salvinorin-a as possible, you may repeat this step once more.
Step 3 - The Waiting Game
As simple as it sounds, you have about 16 hours in which to twiddle your thumbs, watch some paint dry, or whatever you feel like. During this time, don't even think about touching your extraction, and make sure it's in a dark place. Light has a nasty habit of destroying salvinorin-a in solution. The purpose of this step is to let any sediment such as tannins fall out of the leaf which are hard to extract later on.
After the 16 or so hours are up, you may pour off the remaining liquid into the original saucepan, provided you emptied out the powdered leaf earlier.
Step 4 - Evaporating The Solvent
This takes forever, is incredibly boring and will give you terrible stomach ache if you don't do it somewhere well ventilated. The best, safest and longest method of evaporating the solvent is in the dark, in the absence of heat. Remember, the solvent is flammable, so applying heat to it should be avoided. Blowing air across the solvent will speed things up substantially, so if you have a fan, use it, but again, only somewhere well ventilated. If the fan produces a spark, it could ignite the vapour, blowing up both you and your extraction.
When the evaporation is complete, you should be left with a load of black gunk on the inside of your container. This is as far as most people get with their extractions and is the reason why the end result is a black sticky mess. That's ok for about 5x or 6x extracts, but any stronger than that and it becomes unsmokable.
Step 5 - Purification
When your black gunk is completely dry, you can scrape it out of your container and place it into a tall, narrow container. To this, add 50ml or so of naphtha. The naphtha dissolves the green/black waxes but leaves behind the salvinorin-a. After you add the first lot of naphtha, allow the container 30 minutes or so to settle, then pipette off two thirds of the naphtha and discard it. Repeat this process at LEAST 5 more times until your salvinorin-a is no longer a black colour. If you keep washing with naphtha, it will eventually turn white, however that kind of purity isn't necessary for making 10x extract. If you were making something like 40x or 60x (not recommended), then the higher the purity, the better.
After the last naphtha wash, remove two thirds one last time and this time, allow the naphtha to evaporate off, leaving you with relatively pure salvinorin-a. DO NOT try and smoke/ingest this, as even a tenth of a milligram can be too much for some people.
Step 6 - Fortification
Now we have the salvinorin-a from 90g of leaf, we shall add it back to the 10g of quality leaf you set aside in Step 1. Although not completely accurate, you can see this is why it's called 10x extract, as there's 10x the amount of salvinorin-a in the finished product.
To do this, we place the salvinorin-a we produced in the previous step into the saucepan and add to it the same amount of solvent we used in step 1. Stir it round for a few minutes to ensure it has all dissolved. Next, add the 10g of leaf to your small container and pour the contents of the saucepan over it.
You can now evaporate off all of this solvent with a hairdryer, or gentle heat, such as a water bath, until all of the solvent has evaporated.
The finished product is approximately 10g of leaf, looking a little darker than normal, 10 times as strong.
Rooter
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Doing salvia is like doing freaky kind-fat chick with a pretty face while your sober. It's real intense rush for about 10 mins in which time you have no idea where you are or why youre there, then the 20 minute come down you slowly regain barings over what youve just done. Then afterwards your going to feel like you never want to do that again, but eventually either months or years down the road youll start jonesing for it again. But after you try it again you remember why you said screw it in the first place...what a hell of a way to spend thanksgiving...
10x wont be that intense (depending on who manufactured it), but once you get into the 30x and higher range youll lose your mind. Ive seen kids cry, do front flips, break doors, bable incoherently, and even one kid almost kill himself, without them remembering any of the shit they did. I wouldnt ever do salvia if it lasted more than 10 mins.
10x wont be that intense (depending on who manufactured it), but once you get into the 30x and higher range youll lose your mind. Ive seen kids cry, do front flips, break doors, bable incoherently, and even one kid almost kill himself, without them remembering any of the shit they did. I wouldnt ever do salvia if it lasted more than 10 mins.
FirstTimeGrowGuy
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lol +rep just for the fat bitch comment lmao.
But yea i tried the 80x..i fucking hurled my brand new cronik/corona
bong across the room an broke that bitch
smashdoggydog
Active Member
lmfao! that fat chick analogy was preeety accurate lol
smashdoggydog
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it would be interesting for people to post theyr slavia trips lol
my tv tried to eat me
ill stick to pot thank you very much
FirstTimeGrowGuy
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it would be interesting for people to post theyr slavia trips lol
my tv tried to eat me
ill stick to pot thank you very much
just check youtube for salvia trips lol..
but yeah herb all the way buddy.
get whatcha pay for anyway (most cases LOL)
Stealing
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I have done Salvia half a dozen times, each time always having a different experience. I have seen beings form out of this world, and been places never before seen. Salvia is one of the most powerful substances out there. It's one of the big daddies up there with acid and DMT.
My first trip was a small little toke of 20x, I was still in the room, yet I was so close to being pulled into another dimension. These shadow hands were coming from every direction and pulling me into the wall - an interdimensional rift that had infinity and all the answers of the universe in it. I got afraid of what I would find out, so I pulled away and stood up. As I was walking away, the world curled up behind me into a giant vortex and all I seen was blackness.
I have tripped a few other times, and also had a few hard and very intense bad trips.
One of these trips was a conveyer belt, which was all cortoon-like coming from inside of me and pulling my insides out. I stood up and walked - rather wobbled to the kitchen(as it didn't feel like a very nice thing) and saw little demons on the walls, and the fridge opened up a big mouth and tried to swallow me.
I always seem to have a "woody" taste and feel when the salvia trip starts to come on, and I know the feeling creeping up on me. Alot of times you feel pulling, twistiing, spinning, and waving of your body and objects. One time my girlfriend was talking to a "man" or rather entity in the corner of the room.
If you want to know how to get a smash trip from one toke, you need to pack about half- to three quarters of a bowl, and use a TORCH lighter. This torch lighter has the necessary high temps to vaporize the active chemicals. Take your toke - as much as you can inhale from one toke, and hold it in. Hold the smoke as long as you can, until you feel it coming on, and you feel lightheaded. As soon as you release the puff, no smoke should come out, it should all be absorbed into the bloodstream. As soon as the toke is released, you will start to feel the "pull" or "blanket" of Sally ! -Enjoy
My first trip was a small little toke of 20x, I was still in the room, yet I was so close to being pulled into another dimension. These shadow hands were coming from every direction and pulling me into the wall - an interdimensional rift that had infinity and all the answers of the universe in it. I got afraid of what I would find out, so I pulled away and stood up. As I was walking away, the world curled up behind me into a giant vortex and all I seen was blackness.
I have tripped a few other times, and also had a few hard and very intense bad trips.
One of these trips was a conveyer belt, which was all cortoon-like coming from inside of me and pulling my insides out. I stood up and walked - rather wobbled to the kitchen(as it didn't feel like a very nice thing) and saw little demons on the walls, and the fridge opened up a big mouth and tried to swallow me.
I always seem to have a "woody" taste and feel when the salvia trip starts to come on, and I know the feeling creeping up on me. Alot of times you feel pulling, twistiing, spinning, and waving of your body and objects. One time my girlfriend was talking to a "man" or rather entity in the corner of the room.
If you want to know how to get a smash trip from one toke, you need to pack about half- to three quarters of a bowl, and use a TORCH lighter. This torch lighter has the necessary high temps to vaporize the active chemicals. Take your toke - as much as you can inhale from one toke, and hold it in. Hold the smoke as long as you can, until you feel it coming on, and you feel lightheaded. As soon as you release the puff, no smoke should come out, it should all be absorbed into the bloodstream. As soon as the toke is released, you will start to feel the "pull" or "blanket" of Sally ! -Enjoy
Fyfe
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i didnt even relise my post was still going 
i still havent done it from my first time. describtion of what my trip was is on the first few pages. i went to do it the other week with my mate again but i chickened out because i didnt feel comfortable and didn't really fancie the trip again. it still freaks me out to this day.
i have a completely different opinion on reality since i took that sally hit and its really messed with my head. i randomly start thinking about how the hell im here in this world living and breathing and i travel well to far into my thoughts.
i will do it again one day but i really dont know when.
stick to my
for a while i think.
i still havent done it from my first time. describtion of what my trip was is on the first few pages. i went to do it the other week with my mate again but i chickened out because i didnt feel comfortable and didn't really fancie the trip again. it still freaks me out to this day.
i have a completely different opinion on reality since i took that sally hit and its really messed with my head. i randomly start thinking about how the hell im here in this world living and breathing and i travel well to far into my thoughts.
i will do it again one day but i really dont know when.
stick to my
for a while i think.
Fyfe
Well-Known Member
you learn somethin new everyday