Salvia.. done it?

QuizzicalCultivator

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I was just browsing RIU and came across this thread so I thought I'd share my recent first experience with salvia. I had heard stories about it numerous times over the years from various people, and had even done some reading online to check out this seemingly awesome legal hallucinogen. Although for some reason, several years went by before I actually decided to try it. First time for everything, right? :roll:

Randomly one afternoon, while I was sitting around bored and waiting to pick up some bud, I decided to take a stroll down to my local head shop and finally get some salvia to try. I knew it was (obviously) going to be a very different drug than weed, and I was curious to experience this different high. They only had 5x left and I got 2g for $15 (half price apparently) and headed home.

My online research concluded that a bong and torch lighter were essentially the prerequisite tools for smoking salvia, and both of which were already my preferred weapons of choice. So I packed a bowl, smaller than I normally would smoke if it were chronic, but still enough for one good solid hit. I was originally just going to smoke a little tiny bowl for my first time, but as I was packing it I remembered that it was only 5x, and a lot of people online said that 5x didn't have much of an effect on them, so I put a little more in.

As most of you have already guessed, I had decided against a sitter too. I was already alone and didn't want to call someone up just to come over and watch my ass get all fucked up. I'm generally more of a lone-stoner so I thought I would be more relaxed and comfortable by myself. Smoking the bowl on my bed seemed like the logical choice, so I actually took about 15 minutes to tidy up the bedroom and put away any stuff that might be dangerous or just generally get knocked over. I also made a deliberate mental note to make sure I put the bong down safely and quickly after taking the hit, as I had read too many warnings from people about dropping a bong when you start tripping out.

So it was time to get down to business. I sat on my bed and smoked the bowl in one hit, making sure to hold it in while putting the bong down. I remember a brief second of feeling fine as I was inhaling and suddenly there was the "oh shit, its coming..." feeling that you get when you feel the 'high' coming on. After that I vaguely remember putting the bong and lighter down on the nightstand while just concentrating on holding in the hit. After that it came hard and fast, as I have no memory of exhaling at all...

I remember snapping back to reality about 7-8 minutes later, standing scared shitless in the shower of the adjacent bathroom leaning up against the wall under the cold running water. From what I can remember from during the trip, I spent most of the time thrashing around on the bed trying to get up before somehow making my way to the shower. The only feeling I remember is a crazy panic, thinking I was going to die or be killed, although I can't recall how or by what. I don't remember any other inner thoughts at all, so it was reminisent of a dream where you're not in control and everything just happens and you react accordingly but without any inner dialogue. The whole thing lasted less than 10 minutes but it felt like it took another 10 minutes for my body calm down again.

So no magical, awe-inspiring, multi-dimensional trip for me. No floating slots and cartridges, no hysterical laughing, no nothing except panic and fear of imminent death. It was only 5x too, so I think I just packed the first bowl a little too big and paid the price. Immediately afterwards I really felt like I didn't want to ever do it again as my first experience was essentially a 10 minute blackout where I crashed around my room while thinking I was going to die.

But thats how it goes I guess, theres the possibility of a good trip or a bad trip, and sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't lol. As shitty as it was, I know there will be a time down the road where I decide to give it a try again and hopefully that time it'll be a pleasant, enjoyable high. I think we're just spoiled with our weed, as it is a guaranteed good high every time with no hangover or comedown afterwards. I'm also definitely going to smoke a much smaller bowl next time and ride with the training wheels a couples times before I take a hit that big again.

So sorry about the novel, but I had just tried this drug for the first time quite recently so I felt like I should share the experience for those of you thinking about trying it. With my extremely limited expertise I'd also have to say that all the other posts in this thread seem to be very accurate descriptions of what salvia is all about so do some research and reading first.
 

DANBY101

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Dude it is so shit that it is illegal in australia =[ It sounds fuckiing insane wen i go to america next im going to try some
 

Corbat420

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yea, it effects different people extremely differently. personly i have done 20x twice. the first time was like having a seizure while caught in the break of a massive wave just spinning out of control, and i totaly lost control of everything except my sensory receptors, which weren't perceiving reality properly. it scared the living shit out of me. the second time was to see if it would effect me diferently under different circumstances (in an open field, compaired to a basement) and the effects dident change, i just scared the shit out of myself some more.

im a rare case of a "bad trip" tho, out of the 15+ friends that me and my bro got to smoke some, only me and one other person had a "bad trip". my trips only lasted 10~ mins each, but i had friends that tripped for like 30+ mins.

Shamanic experts speak of six levels of intoxication that can be attained through the consumption of salvia divinorum. The fist level of the effects of salvia is of course the most mild. At this level one can expect to be in a state of relaxation and bliss compared to that of an aphrodisiac. The second level is only slightly more intense the user begins to feel slightly detached from reality with heightened senses of space, sight smell and sound. The third level is more disorienting and the user begins to hallucinate however is still able to distinguish these hallucinations from reality. The fourth level is the second most desired level of salvia effects for shamanic mystics looking for spiritual enlightenment. At this stage one will experience intense visual hallucinations and it is said that with you eyes closed very real visions of past lives and times may be experienced. The fifth level of the effects of salvia is the most desirable level Visual hallucinations like in level four are quite intense and may even be indistinguishable from reality at times although consciousness is never lost on may experience merging with god or other objects. It is strongly recommended to have some one with you if attempting to induce this level of intoxication. The sixth level is considered very undesirable at this level loss of consciousness is common along with shaking and complete loss of memory.
 

Fyfe

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I was just browsing RIU and came across this thread so I thought I'd share my recent first experience with salvia. I had heard stories about it numerous times over the years from various people, and had even done some reading online to check out this seemingly awesome legal hallucinogen. Although for some reason, several years went by before I actually decided to try it. First time for everything, right? :roll:

Randomly one afternoon, while I was sitting around bored and waiting to pick up some bud, I decided to take a stroll down to my local head shop and finally get some salvia to try. I knew it was (obviously) going to be a very different drug than weed, and I was curious to experience this different high. They only had 5x left and I got 2g for $15 (half price apparently) and headed home.

My online research concluded that a bong and torch lighter were essentially the prerequisite tools for smoking salvia, and both of which were already my preferred weapons of choice. So I packed a bowl, smaller than I normally would smoke if it were chronic, but still enough for one good solid hit. I was originally just going to smoke a little tiny bowl for my first time, but as I was packing it I remembered that it was only 5x, and a lot of people online said that 5x didn't have much of an effect on them, so I put a little more in.

As most of you have already guessed, I had decided against a sitter too. I was already alone and didn't want to call someone up just to come over and watch my ass get all fucked up. I'm generally more of a lone-stoner so I thought I would be more relaxed and comfortable by myself. Smoking the bowl on my bed seemed like the logical choice, so I actually took about 15 minutes to tidy up the bedroom and put away any stuff that might be dangerous or just generally get knocked over. I also made a deliberate mental note to make sure I put the bong down safely and quickly after taking the hit, as I had read too many warnings from people about dropping a bong when you start tripping out.

So it was time to get down to business. I sat on my bed and smoked the bowl in one hit, making sure to hold it in while putting the bong down. I remember a brief second of feeling fine as I was inhaling and suddenly there was the "oh shit, its coming..." feeling that you get when you feel the 'high' coming on. After that I vaguely remember putting the bong and lighter down on the nightstand while just concentrating on holding in the hit. After that it came hard and fast, as I have no memory of exhaling at all...

I remember snapping back to reality about 7-8 minutes later, standing scared shitless in the shower of the adjacent bathroom leaning up against the wall under the cold running water. From what I can remember from during the trip, I spent most of the time thrashing around on the bed trying to get up before somehow making my way to the shower. The only feeling I remember is a crazy panic, thinking I was going to die or be killed, although I can't recall how or by what. I don't remember any other inner thoughts at all, so it was reminisent of a dream where you're not in control and everything just happens and you react accordingly but without any inner dialogue. The whole thing lasted less than 10 minutes but it felt like it took another 10 minutes for my body calm down again.

So no magical, awe-inspiring, multi-dimensional trip for me. No floating slots and cartridges, no hysterical laughing, no nothing except panic and fear of imminent death. It was only 5x too, so I think I just packed the first bowl a little too big and paid the price. Immediately afterwards I really felt like I didn't want to ever do it again as my first experience was essentially a 10 minute blackout where I crashed around my room while thinking I was going to die.

But thats how it goes I guess, theres the possibility of a good trip or a bad trip, and sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't lol. As shitty as it was, I know there will be a time down the road where I decide to give it a try again and hopefully that time it'll be a pleasant, enjoyable high. I think we're just spoiled with our weed, as it is a guaranteed good high every time with no hangover or comedown afterwards. I'm also definitely going to smoke a much smaller bowl next time and ride with the training wheels a couples times before I take a hit that big again.

So sorry about the novel, but I had just tried this drug for the first time quite recently so I felt like I should share the experience for those of you thinking about trying it. With my extremely limited expertise I'd also have to say that all the other posts in this thread seem to be very accurate descriptions of what salvia is all about so do some research and reading first.

thank you for taking time to explain your trip. afterr reading further on i beleive what happened to you was that you took to much at once? perhaps take a slightly smaller bowl next time. im unsure of the advantages of using a torch lighter? i used just a normal clipper lighter and got my experience as i described earlier.

initially i didnt want to ever do it again but now i feel the urge to explore what i had seen before. to try get to grips with the drug.

perhaps i will take it again soon. if so i will post my experience for you all to read.
 

Corbat420

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quizzicalcultivator took to much, he experianced the sixth platue of salvia tripping. the vissions are to intense and tramatic for the brain to register them (your brain blocks the memory of the events). the 5'th and sixth platue can be rather.....un wanted.... for some people. those who are not looking for spiritual enlightenment should only reach for the 4'th platue, because reaching the 5'th can change a persons perspective on life....... after i reached the 5'th platue twice my entire life changed, i started to look at everything differently and notice things which i didn't even think existed. i started to look at the earth and life with a new found respect, and search for the truth of what my life should be, what do i want my life to be and how will it contribute to the earth, not society. one of my friends which was smoking with us reached the 5'th platue also, he felt the same changes as i did.

so basicly, for recreational use dont smoke to much. if you going for the 4'th+ platue make sure you have a sitter. all i have to say man is: do it and see where it guides you.
 

High4Life

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The people ive seen smokin this looked like they were on crack or some other classs A......... LMAO THAT GEAR IS NUTS
 

Al K. Loid

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I just finished(?) another 10X trip. I don't think I will be using Salvia again. I got some 10X if you want it, for free. I can't use this stuff anymore because I can only go deeper with it, using less just seems pointless, using more will only open doors in my mind that I can not handle being opened. Perhaps I am too close-minded or uptight, but this stuff makes me feel like a child. It scares me, I know what Huxley said about the brain being a filter for reality is too true. Even typing this up so anybody can read it seems futile. Salvia opens existence way the fuck up.
 

atrumblood

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If the stuff would ever work the way it is advertised, I would love a really good trip, but apparently I am one of the few who is immune to anything lower than 40X.
 

MaryJaneDoe

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I just finished(?) another 10X trip. I don't think I will be using Salvia again. I got some 10X if you want it, for free. I can't use this stuff anymore because I can only go deeper with it, using less just seems pointless, using more will only open doors in my mind that I can not handle being opened. Perhaps I am too close-minded or uptight, but this stuff makes me feel like a child. It scares me, I know what Huxley said about the brain being a filter for reality is too true. Even typing this up so anybody can read it seems futile. Salvia opens existence way the fuck up.
Like I said earlier in this thread my son in law never ever spoke to us about his trip he hated it. He has some very serious shit to deal from his younger life and I tried to make it a happy event for us all, but it just freaked him out totally. Since you don't like it, don't do it.Sounds like it really sucked for you. Just reading your post made me feel bad for you.
 

Corbat420

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I just finished(?) another 10X trip. I don't think I will be using Salvia again. I got some 10X if you want it, for free. I can't use this stuff anymore because I can only go deeper with it, using less just seems pointless, using more will only open doors in my mind that I can not handle being opened. Perhaps I am too close-minded or uptight, but this stuff makes me feel like a child. It scares me, I know what Huxley said about the brain being a filter for reality is too true. Even typing this up so anybody can read it seems futile. Salvia opens existence way the fuck up.
i Feel for you man, i know exactly what its like.......

i bought 5g's of 20x ans smoked 2 bowls of it, the other $60 worth, i gave to my friends. i told my bro to take the BS because i never wanted to see it again. i guess with some people, its just to powerful and overwhelming.

did you get spun or merge? i got spun on my first trip (life i was stuck, and an extremely warped reality was spinning around me) and merged on my next trip (the closest this i can compair this to is being one with god/the universe, depending on what you believe.
it changed my perspective on EVERYTHING.

im never smoking the stuff again, thats for sure.
good to know you see life in a new light, Good Luck.
 

QuizzicalCultivator

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Yeah I've concluded that my experience was definitely just the result of smoking too much and subsequently having a bad level 6 trip. It absolutely scared the shit out of me, but I have decided I will try it again and smoke a much smaller amount and cautiously aim for level 3 or 4.

im unsure of the advantages of using a torch lighter? i used just a normal clipper lighter and got my experience as i described earlier.
I've read online from a few sources that the active ingredient, salvinorum-a, requires a higher temp to vapourize (relative to weed). Its not absolutely necessary to smoke salvia with a torch lighter obviously, but it is recommended for those who are having trouble feeling its effects. I think it just increases the potency of the drug, as burning it at a hotter temp will release more of the active ingredient for you to inhale
 

Fyfe

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i must have a very low immunity to it :eyesmoke:

i dont think i would like to try a torch lighter of it increases the potency. i used a small amount of 10x prob only 1/8th of a gram and that was enough if not to much for me. it was completely uncontrolable. i think im going to try slightly less and see if i can chill abit more.
 

majkac

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Salvia is a very specific "drug". I have a friend who's growing it so I have almost unlimited acces to it but to tell you the truth I smoked it just a few times. It's like dreaming, you never know where it will take you. Everytime I smoke it I sweat like a pig and immediately fall asleep. The good thing about it is that you can't get addicted to it and it can change your way of thinking (for better). Salvia should kick you harder everytime you smoke. Anyway it's also ok to mix it with other things (e.g. DXM)
 

Fyfe

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Salvia is a very specific "drug". I have a friend who's growing it so I have almost unlimited acces to it but to tell you the truth I smoked it just a few times. It's like dreaming, you never know where it will take you. Everytime I smoke it I sweat like a pig and immediately fall asleep. The good thing about it is that you can't get addicted to it and it can change your way of thinking (for better). Salvia should kick you harder everytime you smoke. Anyway it's also ok to mix it with other things (e.g. DXM)


yeh i found it like a dream but its the most realistic dream iv ever come across. it tricks your mind into thinking its real. i found i had some of my senses like touch. something passed through me in my room and i felt it straight through me. it was surreal and even now i think about it alot. unsure whether what i saw meant something or whether i had seen perhaps something in the past or future. its quite unexplainable.

might i ask whats DXM?
 

Jasonincuritiba

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I have tried salvia twice, once about ten years ago with just the dried years and then about six months ago with 15x extract. It didn't give me any sort of hallucinatory effects or even a relaxed sensation. If anything it made me really pissed off and angry, this could be the salvia or my own common sense being upset at spending more money on this useless product. Avoid the hype and don't waste any money on salvia. I will stick with cannabis and am quite happy with its "real effects", not just the effects on my wallet.
 

smashdoggydog

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1st time newbie question...

i know there are plenty of websites where you can order salvia.. is it safe to order from online? without any legal problems?

thank you all!
 
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