Republican "job" bills

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
i will start posting the 27 "Jobs" bills the republicans want passed

HR 1633 - Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act of 2011
This bill prevents the EPA from issuing or finalizing regulations revising air quality standards under the Clean Air Act, and excepts farm dust from all references to "particulate matter."
No jobs there, but if anyone has ever suffered from Valley Fever, they might object to exempting dust, particularly farm dust, from the definition of particulate matter.
HR 10 - Regulations from the Executive in Need of Scrutiny (REINS) Act of 2011
Guts the regulation process by mandating that every regulation promulgated by approved by Congress after an onerous submission process, while exempting any Congressional finding from judicial review. Call this one the Carte Blanche For Congress To Kill All Regulatory Authority Bill.
What it is not: A jobs bill.
HR 3010 - Regulatory Accountability Act of 2011
HR 3010 is a modified, somewhat less onerous version of HR 10, setting guidelines for whether any regulations are warranted at all even if called for under a statute. Calling an anti-regulatory statute a jobs bill is a little like calling a half-built bridge infrastructure. So again, not a jobs bill.
HR 527 - Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act of 2011
Ostensibly, HR 527 would reduce regulatory requirements on small businesses by forcing an impact study with specific focus on small business before regulation is adopted. It would limit EPA, OSHA and CFPB regulations while presumably protecting "small" closely-held Subchapter S corporations like Koch Industries. Not a jobs bill.
HR 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
HR 3012 would expand job immigration beyond current limits by eliminating employment-based immigrant visa caps and raising the percentage of total visas granted to 15% from 7%. For this one, I'll say it IS a jobs bill, but not a jobs bill for American workers. It is the "Elite Immigration Jobs Bill of 2011".
HR 3094 - Workforce Democracy and Fairness Act
HR 3094 redefines collective bargaining units and makes significant changes to election procedures, including one intended to intimidate employees: an employer-supplied list of eligible voters with contact information provided by the employee.
Not a jobs bill. A union-buster bill.
 

ChesusRice

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HR 2930 - Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act
HR 2930 exempts startups raising less than $1 million in venture capital from small investors from SEC registraiton and oversight.
Not a jobs bill. An anti-regulatory bill.
HR 2940 - Access to Capital for Job Creators Act
HR 2940 repeals prohibitions on solicitation or advertising of a securities offering. It's a companion to HR 2930, and is intended to allow people with no relationship to a startup company to invest in it without any oversight by the SEC. Let's call this and its evil twins HR 2930 and HR 1965 the "Ponzi Scheme Coverup Acts of 2011"
HR 1965 - Securities Laws Amendment
HR 1965 changes the shareholder threshhold for SEC registration from 500 to 2000 shareholders. It's not a jobs bill. It's a "hide from the SEC" bill. Its companion, HR 1970, would exempt SEC registration of public offerings under $50 million rather than the current $5 million threshold.
Many More EPA Acts
So many they don't deserve to be broken down individually. HR 2273 removes coal ash regulation from the EPA and hands it to the states. HR 2681 would put a legislative stay on cement manufacturing emission standards. HR 2250 would put a legislative stay on EPA boiler MACT rules. HR 2401 would require analysis of all EPA regulations relating to air, waste, water and climate change. HR 2018 would restrict EPA from issuing any revisions to existing water standards or issuing a new standard for a pollutant if the state has already adopted one or there is an existing standard in place. In other words, ignore any new scientific research after an initial standard has been set. HR 2021 amends the Clean Air Act to open oil and gas exploration off the Alaska coast. HR 910 strips the EPA of authority to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, a direct assault on efforts to limit man-made contributions to climate change. HR 872 expands the use of pesticides, fungicides and rodent without EPA approval.
 

ChesusRice

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Special Interest Legislation, or Pandering to Corporate Interests

  • HR 1904 proposes an exchange of land so that Resolution Copper, LLC can mine copper on what is now part of the Tonto National Forest.
  • HJ Res 37 is a resolution of disapproval on net neutrality.
  • HR 2587 prohibits the NLRB from restricting where an employer can locate. This is in response to the NLRB's objection to the Boeing plant relocation to South Carolina, a right-to-work state.
 

Ringsixty

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All I can say is. At least they have been trying to Fucking pass something right or wrong.
Only to be tabled by the Senate. "Harry"
Let's honestly take a look @ the Democratic Senate.... NOTHING !.
They haven't even done a Budget bill in 4 years.... HELLO!

But, Oh it's the Republicans fault...go figure.

The Government is a JOKE and it's not funny!
 

ChesusRice

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The Truth in Trials Act, H.R. 6134, was introduced Tuesday by Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.), along with an eclectic mix of 15 House Democrats such as Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), and three Republicans, including GOP presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (Texas).

The bill would give people facing federal prosecution for marijuana possession the right to "introduce evidence demonstrating that the marijuana-related activities for which the person stands accused were performed in compliance with state law regarding the medical use of marijuana." It would also create an affirmative defense under federal law for marijuana possession.
 

canndo

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The Truth in Trials Act, H.R. 6134, was introduced Tuesday by Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.), along with an eclectic mix of 15 House Democrats such as Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), and three Republicans, including GOP presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (Texas).

The bill would give people facing federal prosecution for marijuana possession the right to "introduce evidence demonstrating that the marijuana-related activities for which the person stands accused were performed in compliance with state law regarding the medical use of marijuana." It would also create an affirmative defense under federal law for marijuana possession.

THERE it is! Thanks Chesus, I heard about this and further heard that the GOP had voted it down or blocked it. So, it's states rights over all for the right, that is unless they think it shouldn't be. Talk about hypocrits.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
All I can say is. At least they have been trying to Fucking pass something right or wrong.
Only to be tabled by the Senate. "Harry"
Let's honestly take a look @ the Democratic Senate.... NOTHING !.
They haven't even done a Budget bill in 4 years.... HELLO!

But, Oh it's the Republicans fault...go figure.

The Government is a JOKE and it's not funny!


Any study of the current methods and tactics of the right on capitol hill will show you that Repubs are doing everything in their power to obstruct, negate, distort, tear down and obfuscate. The reason nothing good or nothing at all is getting done is exactly and specificly because the GOP does not want anything accomplished, especially anything that might wind up helping our current situation and thus possibly putting any sort of good light on the president. This is as i said, quite clear to anyone.

It is indeed the Republican's fault.
 

BA142

Well-Known Member
Any study of the current methods and tactics of the right on capitol hill will show you that Repubs are doing everything in their power to obstruct, negate, distort, tear down and obfuscate. The reason nothing good or nothing at all is getting done is exactly and specificly because the GOP does not want anything accomplished, especially anything that might wind up helping our current situation and thus possibly putting any sort of good light on the president. This is as i said, quite clear to anyone.

It is indeed the Republican's fault.
It's not ALL the Republican's fault.....it's more like 70/30 R to D

Clinton is the one that signed the GLB Act of 1999 that repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act.....which basically caused the housing bubble. Of course it was the Republican's that passed it with an overwhelming majority in the house and senate....but he still signed it.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Any study of the current methods and tactics of the right on capitol hill will show you that Repubs are doing everything in their power to obstruct, negate, distort, tear down and obfuscate. The reason nothing good or nothing at all is getting done is exactly and specificly because the GOP does not want anything accomplished, especially anything that might wind up helping our current situation and thus possibly putting any sort of good light on the president. This is as i said, quite clear to anyone.

It is indeed the Republican's fault.
December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol
privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol
writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the
Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its
passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and
revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will
unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and
the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and
becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The
timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans
that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest.
Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely
shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn
in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton
plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993,
blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of
what it has heard about the Clinton plan.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/may96/background/health_debate_page2.html
 

Ringsixty

Well-Known Member
so you would are ok with someone passing something wrong ???? ok got it. No need to read anymore.
What I'm saying...If it doesn't come to the floor for discussion. There is no hope of debating the proposed bill or even working on it..
Right or wrong.
Get it!
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
It's not ALL the Republican's fault.....it's more like 70/30 R to D

Clinton is the one that signed the GLB Act of 1999 that repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act.....which basically caused the housing bubble. Of course it was the Republican's that passed it with an overwhelming majority in the house and senate....but he still signed it.
yes he did indeed
Dodd and Geitner need to go as well

And not becuase geitner had tax troubles either
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
All I can say is. At least they have been trying to Fucking pass something right or wrong.
Only to be tabled by the Senate. "Harry"
Let's honestly take a look @ the Democratic Senate.... NOTHING !.
They haven't even done a Budget bill in 4 years.... HELLO!

But, Oh it's the Republicans fault...go figure.

The Government is a JOKE and it's not funny!
forgetting the jobs act, smarty?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
So not one comment on the details of the Republican "jobs" bills?

These "Jobs" bills are posted on the Americans for prosperity website as "Jobs" bills

How come you conservatards are ignoring the meat of the discussion?

The "jobs" bills
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
where do they get the names of these bills? an Ayn Rand novel?

The way our government has been trending these last few decades I'm cool with them blocking each other's partisan bills. Watching the healthcare vote on C-Span I noticed that the vast majority of bills are passed with 90%+ agreement, we just don't hear about those. We only hear about the partisan votes.

Well, if it's strictly partisan then it most likely (yeah yeah, exceptions) overall bad. Block away. In fact the best thing for this country would be to go back 100 years and repeal each bill passed strictly across party lines. I'd like to see a bill require 80% agreement but that's just my fantasy. It would cause very distinct legible bills that even the average Joe could digest.
 

beenthere

New Member
So not one comment on the details of the Republican "jobs" bills?

These "Jobs" bills are posted on the Americans for prosperity website as "Jobs" bills

How come you conservatards are ignoring the meat of the discussion?

The "jobs" bills
Conservatards! I think your display of juvenile-esque name calling defeats your purpose.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
The idea that government can create jobs is interesting math. Create debt maybe. Jobs? Probably not.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
the weird thing about the stimulus act is that the metric they used to count "created" jobs was based on a factor of the stimulus causing 4.0% growth of GDP (actual number is ~1.7). They said you could right to recovery.gov and his economists would continually update the numbers.

If you go there now, you'll they've stopped updating the number which breaks their own law by their own people and the latest number was that it created 100ksome jobs jan-march.

The number 4million is now impossible to claim knowing what the GDP actual growth is. This is assuming their own numbers haven't been doctored to reflex as high as 1.7, i seriously doubt it was even that good.

When the Austrians said it won't do what you say, what will happen is an economic slow down, people laughed. Now that what they said has come true and what the Keynesians said has been proven false the reason is (to them) the stimulus was too small.

When your president says we've created 4million jobs we know he's lying. When people repeat this number anyway to win an argument or falsely prop up their candidate they are purposefully trying to mislead. Man I hate the way we play politics in this country.
 
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