Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[headtreep]

Even a little of what sorry? the tea or the seeds? A quick question how do you remove seed from bottom of res to water so it doesnt go and clog up the pump? Cracking my head around that.
Have you tried sprouting the mung beans and eating them in a salad? Crazy healthy aparently...

Coconut water or SST for that matter. A little can go a long away. It's worth it. I hand pour my tea or solutions right onto the root zone. The shells and extra matter sit on the topsoil and the worms process it. Works great.

We eat all types of sprouts. Tasty! Very healthy. Whatever good for the human typically good for the plants I've noticed. I drink coconut and aloe water, eat neem, and take fulvic supplements.

 

[headtreep]

@headtreep do you still use mung beans for sst? Unhulled barley is impossible to find locally... I've been using mung beans since you posted it a long time ago... they are the easiest to sprout.. Do you think the green shells produce any nitrogen once broken down? I know the nutritional info for the sprouts doesn't show any nitrogen. That probably does't count the shell or what ever you call it.. Its too damn difficult to separate unless I were to strain tea. ... thoughts?

I'm still using those things because they are very easy as you mentioned. Easy to sprout and easy to source. Thats what ROLS and LOS is all about. Keep it simple with high quality ingredients. Just like the food we want to eat.

I think the shells are fine myself. My worms dispose of them quick and if anything the shells prob do have value but who knows how much. Don't strain I don't.

 

[KLITE]

HAHAHAHAHA youre radical man! You must have a healthy shine too

I get the aloe coconut and neem, but wouldnt think of the fulvic!

 

[headtreep]

LOS.org does has reputation of not putting up with BS misinformation so I would caution those who sign up but at the same time I would like to see another approach there. I will bring it up to the other members. Even I have been harsh to some people and would like to improve myself.


Edit: Bring your proof with your arguments.

 

[headtreep]

A quote from me:

Right on. I don't like rules but I believe in RESPECT and that comes with feeling out the culture in a community. Doesn't mean you have to follow what the "community" says but it's nice to at least have some fact before spouting some random garbage.

I love to share my ideas and get ideas from the community. It's fun to hang out and bs with my organic comrades.

People shouldn't even bother signing up at LOS since we have a reputation of not putting up with BS misinformation, I say we stay that way.

I personally look at LOS.org as a professional cannabis/gardening forum. Go jerk off at RIU kiddies.

I found this quote on myself and taking some of it back, lol. Not constructive but at the same time when you repeat yourself constantly it gets old.

 

[headtreep]

@st0wandgrow it seems you requested to be banned after looking back. I'm not going to say anymore but that's what I saw.

This is all I have to say anymore about LOS and this is RIU Kiddies haha.....

 

[headtreep]

Compost is the heart of my soil.

 

[DonPetro]

DonPetro. Older pic but impressive to those non believers. View attachment 3150328

Dang! That stuff looks very tasty. Are those f1's?

 

[headtreep]

Dang! That stuff looks very tasty. Are those f1's?

Yup.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I have about 45 lbs of barley if anyone needs some Your girls will go from perky Cs to big trunks and DDs.

 

[DANKSWAG]

PH? Seriously it's not needed. Microbes dictate. I've been on vacation and got a lot of catching up.

Headtreep,

Microbes dictate is correct and if someone without experience in building there soils and observing issues with plants the key is obviously what is going on in the life of the soil. An experienced grower like yourself with keen insight and knowledge on your inputs to your soil and the effect they will have on your soil life is your PH meter, you may not use an actual meter to confirm what you can analyze in your mind, that is your knowledge of inputs used and visual information you receive by examining the health of your plants.

However not all growers are where you are at, they will need a PH meter to verify whether or not they have a PH problem. A PH meter is an essential tool for new and inexperienced growers for it will give them confidence they are building and amending their soils correctly. So it is good for assurance and building confidence and it helps me when mixing new soils with new recipe to confirm the soil is finished cooking, for we both know depending on the environment the soil is cooking in and what has been add the soil could be ready as little as two weeks or longer.

Bottom line I don't eat a pork roast until I have check it a temp probe to ensure the right temp has been reach, for I may not see any pink but that doesn't mean the shit that could make me sick isn't still there. I can be assured with a temp probe my pork roast is safe to eat. Just like I can be sure after cooking some soil that it is safe (PH ready) for my plants to eat from it.

So congratulations on becoming your own PH meter, but sure as your reading this the first sign of trouble that you have difficulty resolving or haven't seen before a PH meter will instantly confirm or deny if your are heading down the right track as you go about attempting to correct the issue.
So I will say this again PH is not important to the experience grower who has found their grove using organic soil and their selection of amendments, for that is the nice thing about nature. She is consistent in her ways and doesn't change her mind about how things should be making her the perfect woman. And as you said you have observed her ways and are in tune with it.

But for those testing her learning how all her goodness interacts with each other a PH meter is a great tool for confirming what is going on in the soil.

DankSwag

 

[Tjingles]

All of this wants me to go flip my compost and play some music for my worms...ill be rite back

I need a bigger grow space so I can install a cot and sleep next to my ladies

 

[Tjingles]

Okay so I'm about to experiment with something and wanted you're opinions. Im going to partially ferment some strawberries mostly for the terpenes mabye a 4-5 day fermentation. After strainging i plan on going just water and strawberry ferment till the last week. All in. An attempt to increase brix and to hopefully take on a promiment berry flavor and aroma.. has anyone experimented with inputs towards the end a flower to somewhat alter the end result. I have three kings, blackjack and a super short amd bulky diesel going.

 

[st0wandgrow]

@st0wandgrow it seems you requested to be banned after looking back. I'm not going to say anymore but that's what I saw.

This is all I have to say anymore about LOS and this is RIU Kiddies haha.....

I sure did.... after being talked to like a 5 year old.

I don't recall asking to be reinstated, so????

 

[headtreep]

Headtreep,

Microbes dictate is correct and if someone without experience in building there soils and observing issues with plants the key is obviously what is going on in the life of the soil. An experienced grower like yourself with keen insight and knowledge on your inputs to your soil and the effect they will have on your soil life is your PH meter, you may not use an actual meter to confirm what you can analyze in your mind, that is your knowledge of inputs used and visual information you receive by examining the health of your plants.

However not all growers are where you are at, they will need a PH meter to verify whether or not they have a PH problem. A PH meter is an essential tool for new and inexperienced growers for it will give them confidence they are building and amending their soils correctly. So it is good for assurance and building confidence and it helps me when mixing new soils with new recipe to confirm the soil is finished cooking, for we both know depending on the environment the soil is cooking in and what has been add the soil could be ready as little as two weeks or longer.

Bottom line I don't eat a pork roast until I have check it a temp probe to ensure the right temp has been reach, for I may not see any pink but that doesn't mean the shit that could make me sick isn't still there. I can be assured with a temp probe my pork roast is safe to eat. Just like I can be sure after cooking some soil that it is safe (PH ready) for my plants to eat from it.

So congratulations on becoming your own PH meter, but sure as your reading this the first sign of trouble that you have difficulty resolving or haven't seen before a PH meter will instantly confirm or deny if your are heading down the right track as you go about attempting to correct the issue.
So I will say this again PH is not important to the experience grower who has found their grove using organic soil and their selection of amendments, for that is the nice thing about nature. She is consistent in her ways and doesn't change her mind about how things should be making her the perfect woman. And as you said you have observed her ways and are in tune with it.

But for those testing her learning how all her goodness interacts with each other a PH meter is a great tool for confirming what is going on in the soil.

DankSwag

DankSwag, I have never used a PH meter when making my own soil period and even buying bags and amending. It's highly doubtful if people are having problems with PH if you using a clean water source. Most people don't have a clue what is happening to their plants and most of the time they are over doing something or over watering.

Where those dank pics since you seem to know what's up?

 

[headtreep]

Why complicate the average person with the whole PH deal when dealing with a living soil? Have you ever read any of those books I have suggested? Prob not..


Edit: One Straw Revolution is a good start. Look up the chapter on PH meters.

 

[KLITE]

Thought id post a few pics of UK cheese x OG Kush at mid week 3 of flower, another 6 or 7 to go.. I thought this lot was on 1st cycle recycling but i was wrong, that one is cooking, this is just a strongly ammended soil, a bit too heavy on the nitrogen to be honest. Shitty phone camera with sun glasses in front of the lense to avoid the black lines in pic, was gonna take them in the dark for you guys but didnt get there on time..



Tried to catch the shine...



A wee close up

 

[headtreep]

Thought id post a few pics of UK cheese x OG Kush at mid week 3 of flower, another 6 or 7 to go.. I thought this lot was on 1st cycle recycling but i was wrong, that one is cooking, this is just a strongly ammended soil, a bit too heavy on the nitrogen to be honest. Shitty phone camera with sun glasses in front of the lense to avoid the black lines in pic, was gonna take them in the dark for you guys but didnt get there on time..

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Tried to catch the shine...

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A wee close up

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Nice and healthy leaves man. Do you PH your water?

 

[headtreep]

1x per week neem IPM

 

[KLITE]

Nice and healthy leaves man. Do you PH your water?

Kind of, let me explain. Water comes out the RO into tank and i leave it at 6.5, just because sometimes i get it out at 8 or even as low as 5. But then when preparing my water, adding acids mollasses or preparing tea i dont. Basically before i water i do not ph, but i do ph my res water before messing with it.